Supercoach Preview - Demons

[jnrmac 20,154]

http://www.news.com.au/afl/more-news/afl-players-face-carnage-if-rules-dont-change-coaches-warned/story-e6frf9jf-1226591108214

Pretty fair assessment of our stocks....

[biggestred 5,125]

try this link instead

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/afl/supercoach-news/melbourne-supercoach-preview/story-fn88c7kz-1226590130129

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

I always make the mistake of picking too many Dees in my Supercoach team... this year I think the only ones I'll go for are Watts, Jones and Viney (everyone will have him i their side). I refuse to pick Sylvia again, and I don't think Magner will be worth his price tag.

Which Dees players (if any) are others picking?

Edited March 5, 2013 by Good Times Grimes

[GolfBoyPro 43]

Terlich and Shannon Byrnes might be worthy!!!

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

I always make the mistake of picking too many Dees in my Supercoach team... this year I think the only ones I'll go for are Watts, Jones and Viney (everyone will have him i their side). I refuse to pick Sylvia again, and I don't think Magner will be worth his price tag.

Which Dees players (if any) are others picking?

Viney's a lock, Terlich is also a strong possibility since Staker is injured.

Tempted by Grimes, Watts and Kent although I probably won't end up with any in SC. Grimes is definitely in DT.

Pedo is too expensive

Toss up between Byrnes and Varcoe. Not sure who I'm getting there.

[wisedog 352]

I wouldn't write Sylvia off just yet... he averaged 98 in his last 11 games last year after recovering from that spinal injury. At $433K, he's pretty good value.

Also thinking of taking a punt on Jack Watts. Finally looks to have a set role in the team and was impressive in the opening NAB games. Bit of a risk given there are plenty of other good options around his price, but Watts has a big upside and is a DPP.

Apart from that, Terlich, Viney and Byrnes are the bargains.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

I wouldn't risk Sylvia in SC.

I think he's a possibility in DT because you get 2 trades a week. If he's sucking it up you can just swap him out. SC has 30 trades and even though it's more than last year I wouldn't want to burn any.

He's the perennial tease in fantasy and the real game.

[The Chazz 4,077]

I can't believe that you can bet on which player will get the most supercoach points.

I'm all for a punt, do it quite frequently, but FMD.

[wisedog 352]

I wouldn't risk Sylvia in SC.

I think he's a possibility in DT because you get 2 trades a week. If he's sucking it up you can just swap him out. SC has 30 trades and even though it's more than last year I wouldn't want to burn any.

He's the perennial tease in fantasy and the real game.

In the real game, absolutely. But in SC, his season averages are pretty solid.

2009 90.5

2010 88.0

2011 96.3

2012 81.0 (98 from rd 13-23)

I agree, you're never really sure what you're going to get from him, but you won't find much better value among the mid-pricers.

Edited March 6, 2013 by wisedog

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

In the real game, absolutely. But in SC, his season averages are pretty solid.

2009 90.5

2010 88.0

2011 96.3

2012 81.0 (98 from rd 13-23)

I agree, you're never really sure what you're going to get from him, but you won't find much better value among the mid-pricers.

Yeah, but it's such an awkward price point. Plus he's never played a full season:

Year Games Average

2005 16 56.9

2006 15 60.5

2007 16 63.1

2008 18 75.5

2009 17 90.5

2010 15 88.0

2011 19 96.3

2012 17 81.0

Just too much of a risk for me. I understand why others will take him though. He has the potential to be a top 10 forward.

I'd go with Mark LeCras. Similar output, more reliable, $60k less.

Year Games Average

2005 2 29.5

2006 3 93.7

2007 17 61.8

2008 11 59.5

2009 21 84.4

2010 21 82.2

2011 19 86.3

edit - reposted tables

Edited March 6, 2013 by Choke

[Maldonboy38 6,405]

Viney is a lock-in.

Blease at his price is a must - pity about his injury but he will fly this year.

I wasn't considering Kent or Evans but NAB cup form makes both likely candidates to start, earn some dollars and sell them by round 4 or 5.

[TheoX 1,222]

Viney is a lock-in.

Blease at his price is a must - pity about his injury but he will fly this year.

I wasn't considering Kent or Evans but NAB cup form makes both likely candidates to start, earn some dollars and sell them by round 4 or 5.

Don't know about Blease, it seems he'll play forward more rather than wing/midfield this year, so i dont think he'll improve his scores much.

Watts, Viney and Sylvia for me.

[wisedog 352]

Just too much of a risk for me. I understand why others will take him though. He has the potential to be a top 10 forward.

I'd go with Mark LeCras. Similar output, more reliable, $60k less.

Yeah if the forwards weren't such a headache this year, I probably wouldn't be considering Sylvia, but he's a good price so I'll take the punt.

Blease at his price is a must - pity about his injury but he will fly this year.

I was hoping to see more of him in the pre-season, because if he was played more in the midfield I would have found a place for him. As it is, at $292K he's just too expensive. Only averaged 54 last year.

Edited March 6, 2013 by wisedog

[CBDees 3,167]

Sorry guys, I think that I will leave the SuperCoach selections up to Neeld and just watch the main game, without hypotheticals.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Sorry guys, I think that I will leave the SuperCoach selections up to Neeld and just watch the main game, without hypotheticals.

....but you pick you own Super Coach team....?

[Maldonboy38 6,405]

Sorry guys, I think that I will leave the SuperCoach selections up to Neeld and just watch the main game, without hypotheticals.

OK then. Do you mind if we indulge in some harmless speculation? Wouldn't it have been easier to groan into your computer rather than type into a forum on hypotheticals that you don't want to participate in hypotheticals?

[Mac7 309]

I always get a bit carried away with the MFC players also...

So far this year I have: Grimes (Def) Watts (Def) Viney, Toumpas and Byrnes.

[Josh 1,420]

Viney is a lock.

Terlich and Kent are great bets on the bench. I've gone with Watts as well.

I was hoping to get away with Luenburger and Vardy in the ruck so I could have Abblet Swan Cotchin and Dangerfield in the middle but Vardy is a no go for round one so dunno know

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Viney is a lock.

Terlich and Kent are great bets on the bench. I've gone with Watts as well.

I was hoping to get away with Luenburger and Vardy in the ruck so I could have Abblet Swan Cotchin and Dangerfield in the middle but Vardy is a no go for round one so dunno know

Wouldn't touch Vardy. Leuy looks to be the goods if he's fit round 1, could be a massive steal.

You need at least one premium ruck though, the Vardy/Leuy combo would be dangerous to start unless one was benched. If you already have a premo ruck, downgrade Vardy to Daw/Currie/Witts and use the cash on one of those midfielders

As good a prospect as Kent is, I think there are too many mid rookies ahead of him atm. Crouch, O'Meara, Viney, Wines, Mitchell (if elevated) to name a few.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,088]

Not quite on topic, but did anyone else note the odds on Jack Watts for most points by a Melbourne player? Could be worth a shot at 6.00. A few times last year he showed he can do it. All he needs is to do that more often.

[Josh 1,420]

Wouldn't touch Vardy. Leuy looks to be the goods if he's fit round 1, could be a massive steal. You need at least one premium ruck though, the Vardy/Leuy combo would be dangerous to start unless one was benched. If you already have a premo ruck, downgrade Vardy to Daw/Currie/Witts and use the cash on one of those midfielders As good a prospect as Kent is, I think there are too many mid rookies ahead of him atm. Crouch, O'Meara, Viney, Wines, Mitchell (if elevated) to name a few.

I already have Viney crouch omera Mitchell lol. Gone with abblet swan Cotchin dangerfield moloney omera. Viney crouch Mitchell and Kent in the middle. But will have to downgrade a premium to gaff and get Goldstein instead of vardy I think

[Gippsland Dee 367]

i've only gone with Watts and Viney in my team this year. i did have terlich, pedersen and dawes/brynes at one point but i have made 100's of changes since then! still might change varcoe for Brynes again though.

[Pates 9,660]

I've got 4 Dees players this year. Viney (duh), Watts, Grimes, and Howe.

Viney is obvious.

Watts I really think will have a massive year, saw imagine at the intraclub and watched a bit of NAB round 1 and he looks very confident.

Grimes I wasn't going to have in and then I saw he averaged 91 and that was after a slow first half of the year. Injury free he's a ball magnet.

Howe's an interesting one. I'll admit I've probably selected him because I enjoy watching him play, but he's also getting a bigger tank and looks like he's been made into a goal scoring mid. We all know Neeld loves him so I'll back him for a good year.

I'm trying to decide on a defender around the 350,000 mark, any ideas?

[CatFishPig 462]

Not quite on topic, but did anyone else note the odds on Jack Watts for most points by a Melbourne player? Could be worth a shot at 6.00. A few times last year he showed he can do it. All he needs is to do that more often.

I thought that too.. Very good odds.. This is total points yeah? Because missing 1 game can hurt you.. I have a feeling it will be a good year for him playing behind the ball..

[wisedog 352]

I'm trying to decide on a defender around the 350,000 mark, any ideas?

Well it's always a bit of a gamble in that price range...

At $297K, Bock is probably the best value, but I think he's going to miss the first few rounds of the year. Thornton is $339K and should do well at GWS. Both are DPP.

There's also a few decent mature agers worth considering this year (Goodes, Stevenson, Terlich, Pittard), so you could always play one of them and use the cash to upgrade one of your other players.