Out : Sellar, Sylvia, Tapscott, Bail

In : Watts , Petterd, Bennell, Blease

OUT: Sellar, Bate

IN: Fitzpatrick, Couch

Out : Sellar, Sylvia, Tapscott, Bail

In : Watts , Petterd, Bennell, Blease

Might be time to blood a Fitzy or a Couch.

By all reports Bennell will come in as he's had a couple of good weeks

OUTS: Sellar, Sylvia, Moloney.

Sellar cannot take a mark, is extraordinarily slow and is a poor ruckman; Sylvia is just never going to what we wish he could do; and Moloney has no comprehension of the team nature of footy. He is a terribly selfish footballer and a woeful rolemodel.

INS: Martin, Watts/Petterd, Bennell.

Martin is an infinitely better player around the ground than Sellar, is a fine ruckman and can take a grab from time to time; Watts kicked four and is essential to our future, but if he hasn't shown what the coach wants, then Petterd deserves a call up; Bennell provides the speed we need and appears to have a better understanding of how to win the ball than he used to. I think he deserves another chance.

Out: Sellar, Tapscott, Bail, Bate

In: Fitzpatrick, Bennell, Petterd, Couch

Time to reward some form in the reserves. Fitzpatrick will offer more than Sellar in the ruck and as Sellar is offering nothing up forward there isn't much to lose. Bennell deserves a go at half back compared to Tappy, Petterd represents more value than Bail and Couch is very over due for a run. Bate really can't do much in the middle at this level and he's the same old forward as he used to be.

I'm not 100% sure bringing Watts and Blease in against Hawthorne. Maybe another game in the 2's and then bring them back. Although I would like to see them both in.

For my mind

Out: Bail, Sellar

In: Bennell, Fitz

Out : Sellar, Trengove, Tapscott, Bail

In : Watts , Petterd, Bennell, Fitzpatrick

Out: Trengove, Sellar, Tapscott

In: Couch, Bennell, Martin

Team balance dictated here, Bail and Bate had fairly ordinary games, but both have been alright in the past two weeks.

It's hard to see Sellar holding his place, despite the fact that we don't have an obvious big bodied replacement. Sylvia should have returned through the VFL to gain form and fitness. I'd give Couch the opportunity he's earned.

Out: Sellar, Tapscott, Bate

In: Fitzpatrick, Bennel, Couch

If you are going to drop Trengove is it not unreasonable to state why?

He's having a go and does all the little things right unlike half our players. Even if you are to drop him isn't it reasonable to trial him as a forward or a half back flanker and drop someone who is offering nothing.

Have a little think here people.

In: Fitzpatrick, Blease, Bennell

Out: Sellar, Bate, Tapscott

Sellar has performed quite well when required to ruck. Its the marks inside 50 that we need. His ability to contest and bring the ball to the ground has been good until today.

OUTS- Sellar, Dunn, Bail

INS- Martin, Couch, Watts

OUT: Sellar, Bate IN: Fitzpatrick, Couch

Just about.

Out: Sellar, Bail

In: Fitzpatrick, Couch

I'd be looking at Bennell as well.

Out: Sellar, Bate, Bail...Tapscott maybe.

In: Martin/Petterd/Fitz..would love to see Ricky Bobby back, Watts, Bennell, Couch (please Neeldy..put us out of our misery and give the kid a run)

Would not be overly upset to see Moloney at Casey next week.

If you are going to drop Trengove is it not unreasonable to state why?

He is simply not putting in, is very slow and often well off the play... he needs to be sent to Casey to find form, just like anyone else in his position.

Firstly, I am really surprised that nobody has mentioned dropping Aaron Davey. I know we lack leg speed and kicking skills, however, I am sick of his insipid efforts.

Out Davey & Bail

In Blease Bennell

There is a bit of dislike on this forum for bail, in my opinion is a player that tries his hardest every minute of the match and has skills that could develop him into a very good player. Or am i missing something?

Out Sellar (useless today), Bate (Always useless) but won't happen

IN Bennell, Couch

OUT: Sellar (of course), Sylvia (too rusty at everything except complaining), Magner (love him, but he's getting worn out, needs a rest)

IN: Watts (play him in this role Sellar has had), Petterd (seriously Neeld, play this guy), Couch (more than deserves a chance)

OUT: Sellar (of course), Sylvia (too rusty at everything except complaining), Magner (love him, but he's getting worn out, needs a rest)

IN: Watts (play him in this role Sellar has had), Petterd (seriously Neeld, play this guy), Couch (more than deserves a chance)

Hard to disagree with those but maybe sub Martin (if fit) or Fitz for Sellar instead of Watts. I really don't think one week out after 42 weeks in is enough for Jack fully comtemplate where he is at.

I'm pretty angry about Sylvia. I was against his coming straight back without some evidence of form at Casey.

Firstly, I am really surprised that nobody has mentioned dropping Aaron Davey. I know we lack leg speed and kicking skills, however, I am sick of his insipid efforts.

Out Davey & Bail

In Blease Bennell

Yeah I keep wondering if I'm alone in thinking that Davey's efforts are largely insipid.

He ball watches more than anyone, and never fully commits to a contest. I don't expect him to be Grimes, Bartram or McKenzie, but he can't be thinking about protecting his body all the time when the ball is in the balance.

People are happy to get stuck into Morton and Watts, but they are babies compared to Davey, who is an experienced senior player with a fully mature body.

OUT: Sellar (C grade Ruckmen, F grade Forward), Bail (simply not enough presence)

In: Pettard (combine this man and Howe at half forward and leave him in for more than 3 games and our forward line will be infinitely less one dimensional) , Watts (I'd take Martin if fit but he's not. Hawthorn don't exactly have a stellar ruck line up and even on a bad day can't be 1/2 as bad as Sellar as a forward)

People who are suggesting Bail should be dropped have rocks in their head. Yes, he wasn't terribly good today. But he's been one of our better players overall this year, including dominating last week against St Kilda. One bad game and we call for his head. Ridiculous.

Sellar is struggling badly, but I'm not sure we have any viable replacements. Sylvia was poor today too.

Watts, Bennell, Petterd and Couch are the possible inclusions, but I'm not entirely sure who makes way.

People who are suggesting Bail should be dropped have rocks in their head. Yes, he wasn't terribly good today. But he's been one of our better players overall this year, including dominating last week against St Kilda. One bad game and we call for his head. Ridiculous.

Sellar is struggling badly, but I'm not sure we have any viable replacements. Sylvia was poor today too.

Watts, Bennell, Petterd and Couch are the possible inclusions, but I'm not entirely sure who makes way.

Titan - please see Rohan Bail thread. He has been dog ordinary all year, except for an ok game against the Saints.