The Green Experiment

[Demon_JB 1,385]

I'm not sure if this has been discussed or brought up previously but just a thought. Has green ever been experimented as a defender? I know you guys might be thinking ah too slow and all that - but Green runs back with the flight of the ball, gets in and under could probably win a few free kicks if he goes hard at the ball, has the game sense and knowledge to take one on ones - wouldn't surprise me if he could be a great spoiler maybe a Tarrant type player and a contested mark?

I would honestly feel more comfortable seeing Green in the backline rather than Joel Macdonald in regards to taking marks, his disposals and footy smarts.

At the moment Green is doing nothing at the moment in the spots he is playing in. Get him to take an imposing key position forward player and see how he fairs?

[Guest José Mourinho]

Far too slow and can't bend down below his knees to get the ball or tackle.

Can't we experiment to see how he goes at Casey?

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

Green is cooked in my eyes. We have to move on.

[The Chazz 4,077]

Poor Joel Mac, one of not many that puts in 100% week after week. I have a feeling that Neeld likes his work ethic, and at the current state of play, would rather someone with his attitude turning it over than dropping him for someone with all the ability under the sun but not putting in.

In regards to the OP, I don't think Green will make a very good defender. Personally, I think we are wasting our time playing him anywhere other than a forward pocket. When the ball gets down there, he's a very good contested mark, and he's usually good for a couple of goals a game, even through ground work (as opposed to set shots).

If we can increase out I50's with Green forward, we will be a better team. We won't be a better team if we rely on Green to do the increasing of our I50's.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

Bailey used to put Green back as a "spare man" in defence when the opposition had a run on. Which means he did it often. He was OK in that role, but it didn't mean he was accountable for a specific forward. I think Bailey damaged him by being indecisive as to whether Green was a forward, wingman or occasional defender. Now I suspect his age has slowed him down so that his best and possibly only option is as a forward.

[DemonWA 3,934]

Green isnt superman, if we kicked it to his advantage i reckon he'd mark it and use the ball well more often than not.

Problem for all of our forwards is the delivery. Clark kicekd 5 from 1/2 chances, cant expect him to do taht every week

[dee-luded 2,959]

Poor Joel Mac, one of not many that puts in 100% week after week. I have a feeling that Neeld likes his work ethic, and at the current state of play, would rather someone with his attitude turning it over than dropping him for someone with all the ability under the sun but not putting in.

In regards to the OP, I don't think Green will make a very good defender. Personally, I think we are wasting our time playing him anywhere other than a forward pocket. When the ball gets down there, he's a very good contested mark, and he's usually good for a couple of goals a game, even through ground work (as opposed to set shots).

If we can increase out I50's with Green forward, we will be a better team. We won't be a better team if we rely on Green to do the increasing of our I50's.

True, yes, But he's costing Us Goals with his Poor disposal & decision making errors.

Edited April 12, 2012 by dee-luded

[Dr. Mubutu 852]

Green isnt superman, if we kicked it to his advantage i reckon he'd mark it and use the ball well more often than not.

Problem for all of our forwards is the delivery. Clark kicekd 5 from 1/2 chances, cant expect him to do taht every week

This is the problem. Green is a leading forward, however the midfielders have seemed intent on putting it onto someone's head instead.

Personally, I'd prefer to put Davey on the half-back flank, which is where he played his best in 2010.

I'm expecting the shout-downs to be forthcoming.

[DEELIGHTED 16]

Green deep forward for me. Once the mids learnt to look then pass lace out the better for all.

[Chook 15,013]

Apparantly Green's been dropped, which I can't say is a huge shock. Davey's in also, so I hope his (reputedly) improved fitness can propel him back in time to an era when small forwards roamed the G and took down lumbering giants left and right.

[dee-luded 2,959]

This is the problem. Green is a leading forward, however the midfielders have seemed intent on putting it onto someone's head instead.

Personally, I'd prefer to put Davey on the half-back flank, which is where he played his best in 2010.

I'm expecting the shout-downs to be forthcoming.

I don't think Green has had the real Zest for the game for the last 2 Years.

He looks like he is just seeing out time. This is a Real bad example to set for other players.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

Brad will struggle to get back in to the side from now....it's life...He has had a solid career & he took the heat last year.

For that i respect him...But we need to build a side without connections to the last few years.

Keep Moulding that list Mark...a 3 year contract means you cannot waste any time.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Poor Joel Mac, one of not many that puts in 100% week after week. I have a feeling that Neeld likes his work ethic, and at the current state of play, would rather someone with his attitude turning it over than dropping him for someone with all the ability under the sun but not putting in.

I thought the same about Simon Godfrey tooo....

Bottom line is that Joel Mac is not good enough and turning the ball over is a death knell for a player.

For that i respect him...But we need to build a side without connections to the last few years.

How quick can we turn over 42 players on our list?

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

How quick can we turn over 42 players on our list?

It will be a busy 3 weeks at the trade table later this year.

[darkhorse72 1,916]

The green experiment is on hold. Given what I saw last week, he needs to go back and find his form and spark again int he reserves..hopefully bounce back strong in a few weeks.

[jnrmac 20,061]

It will be a busy 3 weeks at the trade table later this year.

If you think in one of the best drafts of all time we will be able to trade out players we don't want you are seriously dreaming.

[Go the Biff 3,420]

It will be a busy 3 weeks at the trade table later this year.

What makes you think anyone would want our offcasts ?

If we trade, we'll be selling picks

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

If you think in one of the best drafts of all time we will be able to trade out players we don't want you are seriously dreaming.

You do not think there will be retirements and delistings at season's end??

Mark Neeld is on a 3 year deal. He is not going to sit and wait for things to happen. We will have room on our list to be active during the trade weeks.

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

What makes you think anyone would want our offcasts ?

If we trade, we'll be selling picks

Yes that will be a big part of it.

[Go the Biff 3,420]

Green deep forward for me. Once the mids learnt to look then pass lace out the better for all.

Agreed - it's back to the future for Brad. He can finish as he started. Deep forward leading up as an alternative to bombing on Mitch's head. I think he can give us value in that role

He was all at sea last week when in the midfield. So often stuck in space we were never going to use

[Guest José Mourinho]

Agreed - it's back to the future for Brad. He can finish as he started. Deep forward leading up as an alternative to bombing on Mitch's head. I think he can give us value in that role

He was all at sea last week when in the midfield. So often stuck in space we were never going to use

Isn't that what he's already trying to do, albeit unsuccessfully?

Simply not up to it.

Webjet.

Webjet.

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

Brad will struggle to get back in to the side from now....it's life...He has had a solid career & he took the heat last year.

For that i respect him...But we need to build a side without connections to the last few years.

Keep Moulding that list Mark...a 3 year contract means you cannot waste any time.

Just wondering whether Brad has ever been dropped before in his long career with the Demons. Can't say I remember. Also Cam Bruce, was he ever dropped in his time with the Dees? I'm sure someone would know the answers here. Great news about WEBJET!

[Go the Biff 3,420]

No way Jose - he spends a fair bit of time up the ground.

Our forward line looks horribly one dimensional at the moment with only Clark back

I'd like to see, at a minimum, one leading up & one stopping deep so the mids & half forwards have at least 2 options.

With Davey (or Bennell) 20 metres in front of Clark so if the ball goes that way, we have someone front & square at Clark's marking contests

Then again, as an old CHF, I'm probably a bit old fashioned with my forward line footy & I don't know that my structure & Neeld's would have much in common

[Sir Why You Little 37,035]

Just wondering whether Brad has ever been dropped before in his long career with the Demons. Can't say I remember. Also Cam Bruce, was he ever dropped in his time with the Dees? I'm sure someone would know the answers here. Great news about WEBJET!

Could well be the first time BM...

Yep webjet is good. Very good. Our CEO will sleep well tonight!

[Guest José Mourinho]

No way Jose - he spends a fair bit of time up the ground.

Our forward line looks horribly one dimensional at the moment with only Clark back

I'd like to see, at a minimum, one leading up & one stopping deep so the mids & half forwards have at least 2 options.

With Davey (or Bennell) 20 metres in front of Clark so if the ball goes that way, we have someone front & square at Clark's marking contests

Then again, as an old CHF, I'm probably a bit old fashioned with my forward line footy & I don't know that my structure & Neeld's would have much in common

He does, but they all do these days. They have to.

As you said, I think there's a bit of old-fashioned thinking going on here.

Webjet.

Edited April 12, 2012 by José Mourinho