AFL Employee leaked info about indigenous players

[Harcourt 146]

Just by the way, if Neeld did happen to address the indigenous boys as a group why is this racist and why is everyone up in arms? Are we being a little over-sensitive??

Yes I can see that it would be seen to be treating them differently because of their race but the indigenous boys identify as 'brothers' and a collective group. They will offer each other support and make their way to each of the opposition indigenous players at the end of each match to shake hands and chat. They freely talk about themselves as a collective unit. Is it a case of double standards?

Not saying it is or isn't but it's hardly a hanging crime is it? Paul Roos got away with saying indigenous players have less endurance and hardly a word was muttered in protest yet I personally would find that more offensive. But what if it's true? Why is it that the last 30 or so world record 100m metre runners have been black? It it racist to say that they are better runners? Or does the evidence simply overide that?

Totally agree with this.

Apart from an AFL employee being completely exposed as a loud mouth who can't respect confidentiality this story is so over blown it is amazing. It is like journos know they have a few days of column inches to fill so just run with anything to do it.

[diesel 420]

Has Mclardy spoken at all today?

This is a critical time for all. His response is pivatol.

Don't hold your breath WYL. I think if the senior coach is saying "let's move on" it's improbable the Pres will want to chip in, at least not in the immediate future. Perhaps he will once it's had time to settle down or wait until we see something worthy of the title 'united club' on field.

[Arsene Wenger 72]

Has Mclardy spoken at all today?

This is a critical time for all. His response is pivatol.

How so?

[Sir Why You Little 34,469]

Don't hold your breath WYL. I think if the senior coach is saying "let's move on" it's improbable the Pres will want to chip in, at least not in the immediate future. Perhaps he will once it's had time to settle down or wait until we see something worthy of the title 'united club' on field.

I know, but having spent 7-8 years working in a news room years ago i know how these stories grow and fester. Sitting in a bunker rarely makes them go away. It is usually the opposite.

[Sir Why You Little 34,469]

How so?

See above.

[Romey 127]

I'm surprised there has been little interest shown in wanting to better understand exactly what Aaron Davey's grievances are with the new coaching regime (if any). Most simply assume he does not like the tough stance / demanding work load but there could many other legitimate concerns he may have raised with the clubs best interest in mind. He has always come across as a grounded and responsible person and he has never done anything I can remember that would make me question his integrity or loyalty..

[jnrmac 18,974]

I know, but having spent 7-8 years working in a news room years ago i know how these stories grow and fester. Sitting in a bunker rarely makes them go away. It is usually the opposite.

I'm not sure about that, It's a well known poltical tactic to deprive a story of oxygen. If you don't feed the monster it can limit how long people talk about it.

If you respond to every little angle because a journo demands to know it then you prolong it for an infuriating amount of time. Tomorrow there will be a new story that takes the back page away (please!!!)

[jnrmac 18,974]

NEWS FLASH

Neeld has gathered all the redheads at training today to tell them to put sunscreen on as the sun is out.

Outrage at the Herald Sun over blatant discrimination....

[Sir Why You Little 34,469]

I'm not sure about that, It's a well known poltical tactic to deprive a story of oxygen. If you don't feed the monster it can limit how long people talk about it.

If you respond to every little angle because a journo demands to know it then you prolong it for an infuriating amount of time. Tomorrow there will be a new story that takes the back page away (please!!!)

It's the journo's feeding the monster, that is my concern. News travels faster than we can process now.

Very serious allegations have been made on different levels. I don't think this will fade away just yet. It has the power to do more damage...

[jnrmac 18,974]

I'm surprised there has been little interest shown in wanting to better understand exactly what Aaron Davey's grievances are with the new coaching regime (if any). Most simply assume he does not like the tough stance / demanding work load but there could many other legitimate concerns he may have raised with the clubs best interest in mind. He has always come across as a grounded and responsible person and he has never done anything I can remember that would make me question his integrity or loyalty..

Davey's 'grievances' seem to have started early on last year. At least that's when his level of disinterest and commitment to a contest started. Who could forget his game against North before he was injured....

[dee-luded 2,958]

I have changed my stance on this, it is time for the Melbourne Bubble, we deal with issues is our way under strict confidence and any one that breaks that confidence is shown the door. It is time to close ranks and get the players focused on what they are employed to do.

I think thats what we've all been screaming for from the club. So I guess it's a reflection of the lack of trust that we as supporters have for our club to be strong in the face of Big Issues & or the AFL themselves.

In a way we do admire the Jeff Kennetts & Maguires, but only because we feel kicked about by all & sundry. On the other hand the Cats, thru they're successes, they may well have lost this feeling of being a little pawn in a bigger game.

And with/thru Cooks ways, they seem to be able to negotiate their way thru things well. They lost Ablett/'s, they had issues re SJohnston, & others, and they have sorted things well, out of the spotlight pretty much...

Me thinks this has been a bit, 'all too much', over the last 4 or 5 weeks leading into the season.

[old dee 22,854]

NEWS FLASH

Neeld has gathered all the redheads at training today to tell them to put sunscreen on as the sun is out.

Outrage at the Herald Sun over blatant discrimination....

Discimanation us Brown head guys get sun burnt too.

Well when I had some

[Demon Stalwart 255]

Firstly let me say I admire the way Neild has handled this so far.I hope he continues to be strong with his approach to both the Media and those Players who want to rain on his parade by Inept Performences .

We are supposed to be a Club , the players are supposed to back each other, their coaches and the Club

I believe that those within the club want to do just that !

As for Thomas and Jason Mifsud who gives a rat about either of them

Misfud has proven he is a lowlife and Thomas is a washed up has been

The Melbourne Football Club has more Important things to concern itself with like getting the Players to Play some Good Football for one!

As Far as Aaron is concerned he needs to get out on the Field and answer it with a Blinding performance , its been a while since we have seen that from him

Let him concentrate on his football and accept his word, I dont even believe any players of ours have said what Mifsud Claims , anyone with half a Brain would know you cant trust this clown so unless you deliberately wanted it out there why would you tell him anything ???

As for Demitrious attitude to the whole affair and how he handled the Matt Rendell affair just shows its one rule for one and another for somone else

Rendal From SA did not get the option that Mifsud has been given for a offence that is just as bad

Maybe we are looking at the wrong person who should be made to resign?/

[Sir Why You Little 34,469]

Firstly let me say I admire the way Neild has handled this so far.I hope he continues to be strong with his approach to both the Media and those Players who want to rain on his parade by Inept Performences .

We are supposed to be a Club , the players are supposed to back each other, their coaches and the Club

I believe that those within the club want to do just that !

As for Thomas and Jason Mifsud who gives a rat about either of them

Misfud has proven he is a lowlife and Thomas is a washed up has been

The Melbourne Football Club has more Important things to concern itself with like getting the Players to Play some Good Football for one!

As Far as Aaron is concerned he needs to get out on the Field and answer it with a Blinding performance , its been a while since we have seen that from him

Let him concentrate on his football and accept his word, I dont even believe any players of ours have said what Mifsud Claims , anyone with half a Brain would know you cant trust this clown so unless you deliberately wanted it out there why would you tell him anything ???

As for Demitrious attitude to the whole affair and how he handled the Matt Rendell affair just shows its one rule for one and another for somone else

Rendal From SA did not get the option that Mifsud has been given for a offence that is just as bad

Maybe we are looking at the wrong person who should be made to resign?/

I am reading the HUN right now. The double standards being spewed out by Vlad & his AFL is deplorable. Mifsud is a golden boy, who is being fast tracked. But all his cred has gone. This will not be forgotten. Mifsud will always be untrustworthy with any talk. Gone. Look at the back page photo.

Guilty man there.

[beelzebub 22,225]

NEWS FLASH

Neeld has gathered all the redheads at training today to tell them to put sunscreen on as the sun is out.

Outrage at the Herald Sun over blatant discrimination....

Gold !!!

( or is that Ranga !! )

[Arsene Wenger 72]

See above.

You've been in a newsroom too long.

Using terms like "pivotal" is pure hyperbole.

I don't see any need for McLardy to say anything, nor do I see how it could have any benefit.

It would merely be giving new legs to a dead issue.

[olisik 4,060]

this thread keeps popping to the top of the list, i don't know why as the issue is done and dusted.

[Sir Why You Little 34,469]

You've been in a newsroom too long.

Using terms like "pivotal" is pure hyperbole.

I don't see any need for McLardy to say anything, nor do I see how it could have any benefit.

It would merely be giving new legs to a dead issue.

No. With the right approach it kills the story stone dead in 5 minutes.

I don't want to still be reading this sh!t in the press on saturday morning.

[nutbean 8,837]

NEWS FLASH

Neeld has gathered all the redheads at training today to tell them to put sunscreen on as the sun is out.

Outrage at the Herald Sun over blatant discrimination....

As long as he talked to them ranga by ranga not as a group I dont have a problem with it

[old dee 22,854]

this thread keeps popping to the top of the list, i don't know why as the issue is done and dusted.

didnt you just help that?

[old dee 22,854]

No. With the right approach it kills the story stone dead in 5 minutes.

I don't want to still be reading this sh!t in the press on saturday morning.

The orgasm by the media has a while to go yet WYL

I thought of all people you would understand that.

It will pop up for months yet.

every time there is the smallest problem at the MFC this will surface.

It is not over by a long shot

Edited April 4, 2012 by old dee

[jackaub 1,402]

You have to remember, there is a chance our player is a liar. In which case, the club would want to shut this down.

There is also a greater chance that Mifsud is a self-important and unsophisticated "player", and he interpreted some comments in a way that suited his end. In that event, our player stands to be embarrassed by any more oxygen on his involvement in the situation, so I can understand why the club would want to shut this down in this case too.

If the player was squeaky clean, and Mifsud had simply lied, then I suggest this would have evolved a bit differently. Even in that case, though, MFC gains nothing by pouring oxygen on the fire.

If the MFC source lied then he /she should go it is not acceptable.

I hope the club ie Only Neeld and schwab have commented, arent backing the source in the hope that it will all go away coz it wont

Back the source completely stand your ground and kick back hard

Or be honest truthful stand your ground and sack the source

Its typical of modern management to spin wiggle and play games

Its an occasion that should not be missed to make the club mean something and i reckon it would have a great beneficial and uplifting consequences on the players

The club cannot be seen to try and ignore such shocking accusations and we have been completely dissed in this matter and the club trashed

Stand up as a united club for once be brave.

[Sir Why You Little 34,469]

The orgasm by the media has a while to go yet WYL

I thought of all people you would understand that.

It will pop up for months yet.

every time there is the smallest problem at the MFC this will surface.

It is not over by a long shot

Quite possibly Yes OD. That is exactly why i would be advising Mclardy to put out one statement, so that if there are spot fires the view of the MFC is widely known.

At present nothing has been answered. Humans don't like that.

[beelzebub 22,225]

The orgasm by the media has a while to go yet WYL

I thought of all people you would understand that.

It will pop up for months yet.

every time there is the smallest problem at the MFC this will surface.

It is not over by a long shot

I agree... the dog ( media ) has a bone to play with, and play , and bury , and dig up and play they will.

im sure there is an internalisation of this also at the club. I can only envisage players being 'counseled' in protocols and grievance/outcomes/resolution etc. This will take the form of a door !!

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

You've been in a newsroom too long.

Using terms like "pivotal" is pure hyperbole.

I don't see any need for McLardy to say anything, nor do I see how it could have any benefit.

It would merely be giving new legs to a dead issue.

Agree. The only way the journos feed the monster if you provide the feed. I cant think of any reason why Davey, Vlad/Mifsud would not to say anything further. If Neeld has decided to close the topic I cant see McLardy pushing it.

No. With the right approach it kills the story stone dead in 5 minutes.

I don't want to still be reading this sh!t in the press on saturday morning.

And that whats being adopted now. Glad you have dropped your earlier hyperbole

That is exactly why i would be advising Mclardy to put out one statement, so that if there are spot fires the view of the MFC is widely known.

At present nothing has been answered. Humans don't like that.

The MFC McLardy statement at this point is superflous and again would only feed your monster and will draw more questions. The issues puzzling everyone from this fiasco will not be addressed by the media release.

I would hope McLardy would adopt a more media savvy approach that you have outlined.

The orgasm by the media has a while to go yet WYL

I thought of all people you would understand that.

It will pop up for months yet.

every time there is the smallest problem at the MFC this will surface.

It is not over by a long shot

Disagree. It only festers if its got more to feed on. Given what has happened to date we cant stop the media raising it in the future. if they do its only a rehash of what we already know. Ho Hum. MFC will need to ensure at best it can that it is not in the news for anything else.