Tom Scully

[praha 11,131]

Scully's very quick, gets his hands on the ball, often reminds me of a rich man's Stanton, but I think he can improve. I'm not concerned in that regard.

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

I attended the GWS 'Captain's Club' function at the Swans v Pies game last night. Spoke to Sheedy, Dipper and the GWS CEO.

Essentially, it seems they think they have Scully. He has not 'signed' anything, but he 'committed' to GWS last October.

Reading between the lines, it is probable that, whilst he said he's 'committed' to the GWS, he's probably now having second thoughts. Nonetheless, GWS appears confident.

I felt like throwing haymakers at everyone wearing orange and grey hats last night, Bloody p1ssed off - this is unfair. Should have taken Trengove at 1, Martin at 2.

So did they say this to every one or did you go up to them and ask?

[Jack7 521]

Yeah,get your hand off it Ronny,like they're going to say that to a total stranger!!!

[Sir Why You Little 36,670]

So he hasn't signed anything for GWS.....Good, if the MFC keeps winning we still have an excellent chance of keeping the Scull.

I just re read the article in yesterday's HUN.

I am sure Tom is still seriously hoping he can stay at the MFC.....But we must realize GWS are at present a "Wall of Cash" and they do wish to spend.

The MFC needs to keep a team together-Tom must fit in to that team.

I still reckon number 31 in 2012 will be Tom Scully.

[Demonic Ascent 0]

For that to be true that would mean that Scully not only got up in front of the press and flat out lied to the cameras in March this year without breaking a sweat but also lied straight to Stynes, Bailey and Schwab's faces. Unless he has ice running through his veins I just can't see this being true. I also wouldn't believe a word coming out of Sheedy's mouth especially if he knew you were a Melbourne supporter.

I'll continue to stick by Scully, take him at his word and cheer him on until the there is an official announcement that he has left. We as supporters owe him as much and should not be bullied by the gossiping media into questioning the integrity of a young man who has given us no reason to.

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

Technically not, if he received a fax for instance, then he never spoke to them, same with his management. And if he has not actually signed anything even if he agreed via fax then he has not lied at all.

[Kento80 83]

Technically not, if he received a fax for instance, then he never spoke to them, same with his management. And if he has not actually signed anything even if he agreed via fax then he has not lied at all.

True, but I'm 31 and don't reckon I could pull off that swifty, so I dunno how a 19 year old kid would go pullin the wool over their eyes.

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

Yeah but your not a player agent either, and that's who would have actually pulled that off.

[Demonic Ascent 0]

Technically not, if he received a fax for instance, then he never spoke to them, same with his management. And if he has not actually signed anything even if he agreed via fax then he has not lied at all.

It would still be lying he would have gone out and said he hadn't spoken with or signed anything with GWS. Technicality or not if he had corresponded via fax the meaning is the same and he would have to coolly lie his way through a packed press conference as well as directly to Stynes' face. Not to mention the fact that he said if he was approached by GWS the MFC would be the first to know about it.

It may turn out that he is no more than a cold blooded mercenary; but I believe in giving people the opportunity to prove themselves especially when that person is a 19 year old kid who seems to have as much integrity and class as anyone running around in the AFL today.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Very disappointed with the number of posters, some who are very much regulars who still insist that TS is being selfish and grabbing at money, bending the club over, maybe he hasnt made a decision, maybe he is being true to his word, maybe he wants what is best for his footballing future,

Give the kid a break for a minute take a cold shower and look in the mirror before you start to take pot shots at his integrity again, im sorry but i think that he is entitled to take time, its a big decision and people are making uninformed comments about a great MFC player who gives his all every week

How will you feel if he signs a deal for MFC for what he is worth in 2 months.... oh i loved him new he would do the right thing etc etc

just saying

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

Yeah I agree, but I was just playing devils advocate. Until he comes out and says I've signed with GWS then I'll believe he will re sign with us.

[Demonic Ascent 0]

Exactly it is also the height of hypocrisy when people have a dig at Scully for not re-signing now yet want to either sack Bailey or refuse to re-sign him until after the season. Like it or not this is how football operates these days. Are these same people giving Sylvia a hard time because he hasn't signed yet and is either trying to bend MFC over a barrel and extort money from us or leaving his options to go to GWS or another club open?

This specualtion all started from BS rumours from snakes like McGuire, Sheahan, Hutchy, Ralph etc all likely being fed BS from Gubby Allen. The kid himself has stated he, his family or manager have not signed or spoken to GWS and that if he was approached the club would be the first to know. Yet some on here refuse to take this kid at his word. Show some balls and back the kid and the club in. Are we going to have to go through this every year from now on once free agency comes in?

Edited June 26, 2011 by Demonic Ascent

[Kento80 83]

Yeah but your not a player agent either, and that's who would have actually pulled that off.

I was talking about looking Jimmy, Cam , Bails and the Media in the eyes and saying that their had been no approach to him, his management or anyone involved with him.

[Jarka 767]

Technically not, if he received a fax for instance, then he never spoke to them, same with his management. And if he has not actually signed anything even if he agreed via fax then he has not lied at all.

Are you sugesting that in October last year Scully's manager and GWS negotiated and agreed on a multi million doller contract purely by fax so Scully could say to the media 6 months later than he and his management have not spoken to them at all?

That's what it sounds like you're saying. Look, I don't want to belittle you but that's almost the most ridiculous thing I've seen on a footy forum. C'mon now (in a really bad Father Ted accent), it's just not going to happen.

Scully said that they (ie, him, his family or his management) has not received an offer yet, I reckon that covers the fax as well....

People can believe all the rumours they want, but I'm sticking fat to the kid.

[jumbo returns 6,703]

I attended the GWS 'Captain's Club' function at the Swans v Pies game last night. Spoke to Sheedy, Dipper and the GWS CEO.

Essentially, it seems they think they have Scully. He has not 'signed' anything, but he 'committed' to GWS last October.

Reading between the lines, it is probable that, whilst he said he's 'committed' to the GWS, he's probably now having second thoughts. Nonetheless, GWS appears confident.

I felt like throwing haymakers at everyone wearing orange and grey hats last night, Bloody p1ssed off - this is unfair. Should have taken Trengove at 1, Martin at 2.

Who is GWS's CEO? What's his name? What a load of BS!!

I usually keep my cool with all posters and love talking footy, but I will NEVER click on a TS thread until the final outcome is known.

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

No I do not believe that happened, I was just making a point that technically something could be agreed without ever personally speaking to GWS.

I was expecting people to realise that I was just throwing something stupid out there, just pointing out there are dodgy ways of doing things and I'm sure agents would have a few up their sleeves.

But as I have said before I do not think he has signed anything nor agreed to anything.

[Guest hangon007]

Exactly it is also the height of hypocrisy when people have a dig at Scully for not re-signing now yet want to either sack Bailey or refuse to re-sign him until after the season. Like it or not this is how football operates these days. Are these same people giving Sylvia a hard time because he hasn't signed yet and is either trying to bend MFC over a barrel and extort money from us or leaving his options to go to GWS or another club open?

This specualtion all started from BS rumours from snakes like McGuire, Sheahan, Hutchy, Ralph etc all likely being fed BS from Gubby Allen. The kid himself has stated he, his family or manager have not signed or spoken to GWS and that if he was approached the club would be the first to know. Yet some on here refuse to take this kid at his word. Show some balls and back the kid and the club in. Are we going to have to go through this every year from now on once free agency comes in?

Nice post.

[Jarka 767]

No I do not believe that happened, I was just making a point that technically something could be agreed without ever personally speaking to GWS.

I was expecting people to realise that I was just throwing something stupid out there, just pointing out there are dodgy ways of doing things and I'm sure agents would have a few up their sleeves.

But as I have said before I do not think he has signed anything nor agreed to anything.

Seriously, technically anything is possible but highly improbable. TS deciding to go to GWS would be one of his biggest decisions of his life because it would have major implications on his life, both in and out of football. They will NOT negotiate something that important via a fax. This would be accusing TS's management of gross incompetance and flippancy to the highest degree, I know Lynch and co are much more professional than that.

[loges 6,767]

Technically not, if he received a fax for instance, then he never spoke to them, same with his management. And if he has not actually signed anything even if he agreed via fax then he has not lied at all.

I've heard everything now

[deeflog 679]

Technically not, if he received a fax for instance,

does a 19 year old kid know what a fax is these days?

[Gorgoroth 12,712]

I've heard everything now

Tongue in cheek mate.

does a 19 year old kid know what a fax is these days?

Ha ha, probably not.

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Yeah,get your hand off it Ronny,like they're going to say that to a total stranger!!!

This is a Tom Scully thread. I'm simply reporting what I heard last night. Neither Sheedy nor the CEO told me this. One of the foundation members did. I told him I thought it was all crap - he then responded by saying, "matter for you. We reckon it's pretty well a done deal". Everyone else seemed to think it's a done deal too. Needless to say, it didn't exactly make for a good night.

So Jack7, it's possible you're a modern day Socrates, but my instinct tells me you're probably not. Cop a tip, hand on it or not - don't be surprised with posters putting 'Tom Scully' related reports on a 'Tom Scully' thread. That's kind of what this forum is for ... but heh, perhaps I'm assuming a basic level of intelligence from everyone in the Demonland community, arguably an assumption that I may now need to revisit.

FYI - I don't know whether Scully's signed with GWS or not. I sincerely hope he hasn't.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

This is a Tom Scully thread. I'm simply reporting what I heard last night. Neither Sheedy nor the CEO told me this. One of the foundation members did. I told him I thought it was all crap - he then responded by saying, "matter for you. We reckon it's pretty well a done deal". Everyone else seemed to think it's a done deal too. Needless to say, it didn't exactly make for a good night.

So Jack7, it's possible you're a modern day Socrates, but my instinct tells me you're probably not. Cop a tip, hand on it or not - don't be surprised with posters putting 'Tom Scully' related reports on a 'Tom Scully' thread. That's kind of what this forum is for ... but heh, perhaps I'm assuming a basic level of intelligence from everyone in the Demonland community, arguably an assumption that I may now need to revisit.

FYI - I don't know whether Scully's signed with GWS or not. I sincerely hope he hasn't.

OK and those blokes (foundation members etc) are going to tell you they havnt signed him???

Yeah nah mate it real hard Western Sydney is a shite hole and know one wants to come play for us, we are literally writing blank cheques but that Scully kid just isnt interested in it, he keeps talking about this thing thats important to him....success or something...

Most reliable source i have heard

[Jaded No More 67,822]

This is a Tom Scully thread. I'm simply reporting what I heard last night. Neither Sheedy nor the CEO told me this. One of the foundation members did. I told him I thought it was all crap - he then responded by saying, "matter for you. We reckon it's pretty well a done deal". Everyone else seemed to think it's a done deal too. Needless to say, it didn't exactly make for a good night

I absolutely don't doubt that you are reporting what you heard, but I absolutely 110% know that Scully has not sealed any sort of deal with GWS.

The rest of the [censored] you were told, is therefore irrelevant.

P.S.- good to see GWS have at least one member. It'll be lonely for them on the bottom

[Bang Bang Bang 5,774]

I absolutely don't doubt that you are reporting what you heard, but I absolutely 110% know that Scully has not sealed any sort of deal with GWS.

How do you know this?