Geez it was great by Roosy tonight

Finally someone comes out and says for once and all for the club and its players to stop talking and stand up and do something about it

Hopefuilly they were listening from the President down to the boot studder

enough's enough shutup and play footy

Also gave Sylvia a fair whack.

For those who did not see it, Roos said Sylvia is a great forward of centre player who does not work hard enough the other way.

Good to see someone get into the players. They have mostly been terrible all year. Can't all be deans fault.

Geez it was great by Roosy tonight

Finally someone comes out and says for once and all for the club and its players to stop talking and stand up and do something about it

Hopefuilly they were listening from the President down to the boot studder

enough's enough shutup and play footy

Didn't see it but couldn't agree more. For the last month we've heard this junk from Jones, Frawley, Rivers, Davey, Sylvia, etc. Enough is enough, we know you played crap, we know you didn't work hard enough, we don't need to be told because we all watched it unfold. Stuff the twitter messages and your media articles, come out show us that playing for Melbourne means something.

Edited May 30, 201114 yr by boydie

Bit surprised he cooked Sylvia, I reckon he's been one of our hardest working players the whole year.

He has turned into a total fool IMO

I don't like his commentary on tv

I don't like him on the couch

I don't like interchange infrindgments (don't think we have had one yet anyone got stats?)

And I don't like him not just running on the field as a coach

but then to stay on and question opposition players ( but that's another issue)

He really thinks he is above everybody else

Bit surprised he cooked Sylvia, I reckon he's been one of our hardest working players the whole year.

That is what made Roos a great coach, he expected everyone to perform to within an inch of their talent, every minute of every game in every season. That is why he got great success from a fairly ordinary list of players, because he extracted everything they had to give.

Sylvia has had a fairly good year, but he has all the skills required to be an A grader, an elite player, and he is nowhere near that and has never been that in his entire career. It is because he is so talented that Roos probably expects more from him.

I don't like interchange infrindgments (don't think we have had one yet anyone got stats?)

Well done Cameron Butler !!

That is what made Roos a great coach, he expected everyone to perform to within an inch of their talent, every minute of every game in every season. That is why he got great success from a fairly ordinary list of players, because he extracted everything they had to give.

Sylvia has had a fairly good year, but he has all the skills required to be an A grader, an elite player, and he is nowhere near that and has never been that in his entire career. It is because he is so talented that Roos probably expects more from him.

Very well said Jaded

Edited May 30, 201114 yr by iv'a worn smith

That is what made Roos a great coach, he expected everyone to perform to within an inch of their talent, every minute of every game in every season. That is why he got great success from a fairly ordinary list of players, because he extracted everything they had to give.

Sylvia has had a fairly good year, but he has all the skills required to be an A grader, an elite player, and he is nowhere near that and has never been that in his entire career. It is because he is so talented that Roos probably expects more from him.

Spot on Jaded!

Unbelievable.

You like things the way they are hey? Roos is trying to help a sad situation.

Our club has a history of softness since the late 1960's, except for a brief time or two, and you lash an AFL champion for caring about us???

i was there during the 60's and it was at least half of them: '65, '66, '67, '68, and '69. I have been depressed about the demons since round 1, 1966 when we were clobbered by the saints in the match of the day. the game was built up as melbourne on the rise again after a disappointing '65. well i have been through a lot of wasted football matches since then.

I have lost all respect for the guy, see above post.

That's just sad for you.....

Yes, Sylvia is an attacking player, but the stats don't lie...

1st in the competition for inside fifties.

10th in the competition for tackles.

19th in the competition for contested possessions.

What was really interesting in what he said was " I spoke to Dean a couple of weeks ago about game plans"

Is he on the payroll already?

i was happy to see them put the heat on the players.

They didnt whack sylvia that badly. If any thing i think Roos was trying to say that hes a better player at a half forward flank / more attacking position than on the ball? The small clip which showed Sylvia giving judd 5m was used to demonstrate the types of things that coaches cant control. I.e. Bailey can put sylvia on Judd, but at the end of the day its up to sylvia to mark him closley.

Edited May 31, 201114 yr by DemonWA

Also gave Sylvia a fair whack.

For those who did not see it, Roos said Sylvia is a great forward of centre player who does not work hard enough the other way.

I think that was a very gentle translation of what he said. Pea-hearted frontrunner is what he implied.

re #15 ^ Well..you sort of can.. You can give him a bake, suggest you need to wear him not invite him to a cosy picninc

Edited May 31, 201114 yr by belzebub59

re #15 ^ Well..you sort of can.. You can give him a bake, suggest you need to wear him not invite him to a cosy picninc

you know what i meant! Im sure bailey would have said something along those lines, but if players dont follow instructions to the letter the coach cant achieve what he's trying to achieve

Very well said Jaded

Agree

That is what made Roos a great coach, he expected everyone to perform to within an inch of their talent, every minute of every game in every season. That is why he got great success from a fairly ordinary list of players, because he extracted everything they had to give.

Sylvia has had a fairly good year, but he has all the skills required to be an A grader, an elite player, and he is nowhere near that and has never been that in his entire career. It is because he is so talented that Roos probably expects more from him.

I think Roos was a terrific coach and I agree he got a heap out of the list.

But it is a myth that he had a working class list. I think the myth was perpetuated by the "Blood Oath" stuff and propogated through the media.

O'Loughlin, Hall, Nick Davis, O'Keefe was as good a forward line as there was.

Jolly, Jason Ball and Goodes were all high quality talls.

Leo Barry, Kirk, Bolton, Williams and a few others were guns.

No injuries at crucial times.

And if Roos were to coach us, we would have to get much more used to games like Friday night, with a slow tempo, dragging down the standard of the game and getting a lot of blokes behind the ball.

you know what i meant! Im sure bailey would have said something along those lines, but if players dont follow instructions to the letter the coach cant achieve what he's trying to achieve

and if the coach cant achieve what he's trying to ?? what then ?

all roads lead to Rome as they say

and if the coach cant achieve what he's trying to ?? what then ?

all roads lead to Rome as they say

your're right. If the players wont play for Bailey (which i admit is becoming clearer and clearer) then its time for him to go....

Edited May 31, 201114 yr by DemonWA

I really like Paul Roos and respect him as a player, coach and special comments man. And most of what he said is probably spot on. But to highlight Sylvia as an example of our current poor attitude demonstrates a lack of observation and insight. When watching gaems, because we have been playing so poorly I haven't benn "caught up in it" very much and so have focused on individual players.

Newton was both really good and horrible dreadful against the Blues.

Watching Watts lead and lead and lead again - often not honoured

Watching Dunn make horrible decisions this year

Watching Stef Martin improve at stoppages.

Last 2 games I have watched live, I have concentrated on Sylvia a fair bit because he seems to be the one player running, trying to break tackles and set up team mates, gut-running back into defence after one of his team mate's turnovers. Last Friday night both my daughter and I commented "look at Sylvia - out on his feet - exhausted while watching team mates with no defensive grunt" (Jurrah, Morton, Bennell). He waqs heaving the breath in and out over on the far flank at the Punt Rd end. Perhaps the reason he was 5m off Judd was because he was absolutely stuffed and couldn't get out onto the bench becausue of how/where the play was.

Paul Roos got this one wrong - badly wrong.

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i was there during the 60's and it was at least half of them: '65, '66, '67, '68, and '69. I have been depressed about the demons since round 1, 1966 when we were clobbered by the saints in the match of the day. the game was built up as melbourne on the rise again after a disappointing '65. well i have been through a lot of wasted football matches since then.

Yep, the curse that took Norm Smith from us as Coach, and Ron Barassi to carlton is still pervasive.

IMO it's the poliitical correctness of the MCC/MFC correction school.

We won't win until this soft cancer is removed.

I hold Paul Roos only second to Jim Stynes in terms of respect as far as footy folk go. When he speaks I listen, however I have wondered if Col has got that body of his fully sorted.

Colin Sylvia's ceiling is very high, Roos wants to see him reach it as Jaded has said.