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i dont know why i went into this match with expectations, i mean we have showed zero form, and have been just lucky with how the draw has panned out for us, imagine if we had matches like geelong, western bulldogs, collingwood, freo, we would be in an even worse position that we are now, at least we know that they are all to look forward too.

Grimes, out of the backline, into the midfield, it was a good idea, and he can do some good things, but he is always comprehensively beaten by his opponent.

Morton, into the magoos, he needs a 40 disposal match, to get his mits on the ball, could put morton into the backline, swap him for grimes, although this could lead to drastic turnovers aswell.

Frawley back to basics, use the ball well, think about positioning against opponent

Davey, push deep forawrd, real deep, like at the feet of dunn/jamar/martin/jurrah, so that he crumbs, he will get free kicks and burn his opponent for speed through this, let him get tagged there, when his tagger leaves, throw him in the guts, roate this.

i feel bad labelling a few players in a tihs team performance but this is my major concern

we need to work ridiculously on our moving through zones, and our running into space, the point of this running is to drag a man from the zone, we just seem to let one person do the running, but the thing is to get through a zone, you need to run, draw an opponent, short kick to the following teammate, handball and go, or turn and go, not stop, wait, kick 40 - 50 m where the ruckmen, and taller players of the oppositions zone are.

we need to go back to basics, we are trying presses and zones, can it, just because collingwood did it and do it effectively doesnt mean it is the absolute be all and end all, play one on one football, if every player beats his opponent, this means we will more often than not win the match.

defensively go back to square one, play on your man, and play on him well, when we have the ball if you run hard forwards you better run hard back to your man, this caught grimes out plenty on nickoski (however you spell it)

take our time with disposal.

STICK YOUR TACKLES, i know when i play footy there is few better feelings than tackling an opponent well, and sticking it to them, we need a bit of menace about us, and it doesnt seem to happen, i want to see a bit of passion, not necessarily a punch on, but i wouldnt mind to see a few melbourne players throwing their body around, bruising a few opponents.

SET SHOT PRACTICE!

Why did we tag priddis, clearly it is pointless tagging the person who handballs it out, its like tagging lenny hayes or scott west in the day, it couldnt work, you need to tag the outside running player, thus tagging embley would have worked, and this is why davey gets tagged, if moloney was tagged he would still get 30 disposals through hard ball gets it would just mean he would give it to a free davey which would clearly be damaging

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Some of the worst stats I have seen in a long while.

Inside 50s at 1/4 time - WC - 22 (is that a record?) Melbourne 5

Tackles in the forward line at half time - West Coast 13, Melbourne 0. None. Zip.

Absolutely no defensive pressure in the forward 50.

As a result, nearly all of WCs score to half time was due to turnovers.

Despite the first half, i thought we would at least fight it out in the second half. Nup. Result - 8 WC goals to 3.

Daniel Kerr said recently the biggest difference in the game (after being injured for 2 years) was the increased tackling.

We really miss our two best tacklers from last year - Junior and Jordie.

I thought it was 22-3!!!!

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lol... this is the biggest Demonland meltdown I can remember. Even the usual voices of restraint have cracked it.

I deliberately avoided posting last night.

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The players seem to be content with themselves.

Beamer and Sylvia parade around their muscles - But that doesnt make you a good footballer

All this so called talent. early draft picks - all theory, doesnt matter whre youre taken if you aint got that intangible quality. (See Jack Darling)

We got rid of our leader too early - Junior could have seen us through another 2 years and then hand over to Grimes

The captaincy is weighing heavily on Brad Green -He is a different player

Jones tweets and Surfs and loves life doesnt he?

Moloney can grab and kick the ball - anywhere.

Last night we continually bombed the ball high and long, we were under pressure so i can understand that, but when we have 2 of our players against one of theirs, and both of ours stand behind him, well that sums it up.

We consistantly fail to place severe pressure on the opposition, this should be the basic thing that every else starts from, we dont do it, dont seem to coach it either!

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Cale Morton needs to be dropped.

Giving up the forward half doesn't work.

Absolutely...he was very much an embarrassment tonight. very high draft pick with apparent "Elite Skills" ??? - a term im officially over around our club.

not to mention how painfully slow & weak this bloke is...

seems to me that we've recruited a hell of a lot of soft kids over the past years...you cant coach, teach or improve heart, mongrel or hardness, it generally comes naturally…something we lack immensely at our football club.

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terrible terrible terrible, what a shambles. firstly, how in the name of god is cale morton in the side and ricky bobby isnt??? cale morton is as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike. Green has let captaincy get to him, terrible. melbourne are soft, real soft. Wonna is not fit, Jack Grimes disposal is abysmal. even chippa got beaten too often. Col Garland can hold his head high. Sylvia doesnt give a rats arse. Jonesy, who i'm pretty hard on, was ok but was given about 10 suicide hand balls, how he's not concust i'll never know. Jamar beaten but by prob the best ruckman in last decade, so fair enough. we have no intensity, watching the geelong v hawks game the other day i said to myself that we never play at that intensity. we are way off top 8.

Dean Bailey, i've said it before, absolutley no idea how to coach when the chips are down, time for a rethink jimma, roos and malthouse available at the end of the year, it would be borderline stupidity not to look into eaither of them. both would come with the list we have. I"m sure DB and Brad will do a press conference praising the eagles like they did the hawks, a disgrace.

i dont think i've ever been so frustrated in years

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We are now paying for the free rides given to players based on reputation.

What happened to the comments at the start of the year about players needing to earn their spots to get in the side and then continue to perform in order to keep them. Seems to only apply to Petterd, Maric & Jetta (our best performers preseason)

Passenger List:

Green

Davey

Morton

Wonna

Bennell

Jurrah

Frawley

Gysberts (this week only)

For me last night Grimes, Bail, Trengove & Jones were the only ones who paid their way.


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Our rate of development is absolutely snail rate. We've been terrible for 4 years now. When hawthorn went through their rebuild they went through a horror 18 months then went straight into finals contention.

Is it our coaches have no idea? Or are we drafting the wrong kind of players? I think its a bit of both.

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If anyone tries to defend DB after this, I'll whack them over the head myself.

We don't do the BASICS.

- Where's the leading player? We kick to STATIC players, not to leads.

- Where's the awareness of a contest?

- Where the hell is any willingness to TACKLE A MAN? CHRIST

How about continually handpassing to a static player in our defensive 50

We hand pass until we turn over

10 goals 12 from turnovers

i have never seen a game plan like that that is allowed to continue fro the whole game when it is abvious to even my 80 year old grandmother who watched the game that it wasnt working

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We are now paying for the free rides given to players based on reputation.

What happened to the comments at the start of the year about players needing to earn their spots to get in the side and then continue to perform in order to keep them. Seems to only apply to Petterd, Maric & Jetta (our best performers preseason)

Passenger List:

Green

Davey

Morton

Wonna

Bennell

Jurrah

Frawley

Gysberts (this week only)

For me last night Grimes, Bail, Trengove & Jones were the only ones who paid their way.

good post

soft coaching = soft team (its not rocket science)

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I deliberately avoided posting last night.

Wise man, I tried to exercise restraint, but it all fell apart after a certain point :lol:

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