Good Bruce Bad Bruce

[biggestred 4,320]

a good club environment is extremely helpful in getting flags. flags are almost a by-product (if the culture and environment is good enough)

bruce clearly didnt want to contribute to this - if he did he would have stayed one a 1 year deal and worked hard for a new contract and his place in the team.

bye bye

[John Crow Batty 8,259]

About a year back we had a massive thread that explored this.

I exaggerated the mission of a club.

But the statement rings true - a club exist to win flags. Good clubs win flags. Great clubs win flags, and provide a good club environment.

Everything other than success can be contained in 'good club environment.'

And we are sick of waiting around. There is only one mission. THE FLAG. With our record no one should be satisfied with any other lesser rewards

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Edited November 8, 2010 by america de cali

[Guest bauschy88]

Just out of curiosity.. When Bruce lines up against the Dees next year, will anyone here be inclined to boo and jeer him? Or does he deserve an applause for his contribution to this great club over the years? I honestly don't know how I will react when he gets his hand on the ball against us next year..

[The Great Pretender 430]

Just out of curiosity.. When Bruce lines up against the Dees next year, will anyone here be inclined to boo and jeer him? Or does he deserve an applause for his contribution to this great club over the years? I honestly don't know how I will react when he gets his hand on the ball against us next year..

I'll just be hoping that he does the usual thing - handball or kick to the opposition.

[biggestred 4,320]

hahaha you just know wherever bruce goes he will turn into mr hard ball get with reliable disposal

[Still Waiting 94]

Had lost his passion to be at our club because he wasn't offered 2 years. If he was really gunna be that good for 2 more years he should have agreed to a year at a time and be really thankful. He will be missed, but not a massive loss on field, moreso as a mentor and adviser to younger players. As others have said, if you don't want to be here then go away.................... and play somewhere else.

[ox_5 163]

Can't think of any other club that has gone about their business in this manner. Just makes the club look stupid - some clubs honour their champions, we just shoot ours like lame horses and do it through the media.

Would you prefer us to be like the Bulldogs and have Brad Johnson limping around keeping a good player out of the best 22 for finals? Making the club look ridiculously stupid for not realising the player is past it.

We do it through the media? You reckon that the press conference is the first contact the player has with the club regarding their future? Seriously?

By having a press conference it allows the fans etc to have some form of a goodbye. It lets the player have their say. If you haven't noticed, football media is big business now. If we didnt hold a press conference, the player would be put through interviews anyway. So whats the difference?

[Buzzy 932]

This is Bad.

Sure he wasn't amazing - but provided crucial rebound whilst shutting down an opponent, week after week.

He deserved more than a 1 year contract.

Giving him only 1 year meant he could be pushed out at the end of next year, even when he knew his body would still very likely be fine. Just like poor J-Mac last year. Awful way to treat him.

We forget how many games our legends like Robbo & J-Mac won us, we should be backing them in when they say they're right to go around again.

Maybe we should focus on that rather than keeping hacks like Newton around the club. I mean, c'mon. Like he deserves to share in our success?

This upsets me. Club champions should get more than 1 year contracts if there is nothing wrong with them.

Poor form Bailey.

[ox_5 163]

This is Bad.

Sure he wasn't amazing - but provided crucial rebound whilst shutting down an opponent, week after week.

He deserved more than a 1 year contract.

Giving him only 1 year meant he could be pushed out at the end of next year, even when he knew his body would still very likely be fine. Just like poor J-Mac last year. Awful way to treat him.

We forget how many games our legends like Robbo & J-Mac won us, we should be backing them in when they say they're right to go around again.

Maybe we should focus on that rather than keeping hacks like Newton around the club. I mean, c'mon. Like he deserves to share in our success?

This upsets me. Club champions should get more than 1 year contracts if there is nothing wrong with them.

Poor form Bailey.

If it is alright for Shane Crawford to play out his career on one year contracts after turning 30, a brownlow medalist, elite champion player, then it should be fine for good old Brucey boy.

Its common practice. The player should take it as an incentive. Obviously doesn't back his ability to make it impossible for the club to turn him down after next season.

[rpfc 27,531]

This is Bad.

Sure he wasn't amazing - but provided crucial rebound whilst shutting down an opponent, week after week.

He deserved more than a 1 year contract.

Giving him only 1 year meant he could be pushed out at the end of next year, even when he knew his body would still very likely be fine. Just like poor J-Mac last year. Awful way to treat him.

We forget how many games our legends like Robbo & J-Mac won us, we should be backing them in when they say they're right to go around again.

Maybe we should focus on that rather than keeping hacks like Newton around the club. I mean, c'mon. Like he deserves to share in our success?

This upsets me. Club champions should get more than 1 year contracts if there is nothing wrong with them.

Poor form Bailey.

You can be sure of this.

Our talent is 10 years younger than him and yet we are making allowances because he has been here so long.

The pattern of the club until Bailey came in was one of unbelievable respect of the club's stalwarts.

To the detriment of the club itself.

The club should be bigger than the individual, but that is our lot in the AFL isn't it. We are Melbourne. We respect our players. We don't care about flags - we just want to treat our B+ players with respect and let them play on their terms for as long as they see fit.

MFCSS

I have evolved from the syndrome.

Anyone else?

Edited November 8, 2010 by rpfc

[e25 5]

I'm proud to say I no longer suffer from MFCSS.

My time on this forum shall from here on be devoted to promoting awareness of MFCSS and working to cure it.

Mostly through education, insight and enforcing my correct views on others.

Enjoy.

Edited November 8, 2010 by E25

[beelzebub 22,225]

Seems strange many can't grasp a sime tenet . The MFC is all about creating a club who's structure and mantra is about sustained success , excellence in competition and ultimately the grand reward , premierships .

In doing such it's not going to deliberately sabotage it's efforts by denying the club the talent and the services of such where possible . Some would have it the FD is somehow cutting off it's nose to spite themselves . The FD will maximize return wherever able but temper such enthusiasms with prudence and common sense . In this light had Bruce been worth a 2 year deal he would have been offered one. He wasn't, therefore he didn't warrant one.

I'll trust the FD ... again !!!

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

Can't think of any other club that has gone about their business in this manner. Just makes the club look stupid - some clubs honour their champions, we just shoot ours like lame horses and do it through the media.

No doubt.

West Coast with their treatment of Judd when Cousins ran from the booze bus....

Essendon with one of their all time greats in Mathew Lloyd was pensioned off as Captain....

Adelaide with their treatment of Tyson Edwards.......

Geelong with their treatment of Gary Ablett over the past twelve months....

Do you want more??

[H_T 2,941]

Can't think of any other club that has gone about their business in this manner. Just makes the club look stupid - some clubs honour their champions, we just shoot ours like lame horses and do it through the media.

Good player. "Champion" sits uneasy with me. B&F in 2008 - a year to forget.

[e25 5]

And really, what else does Bruce have on his CV..?

[John Crow Batty 8,259]

And really, what else does Bruce have on his CV..?

Wore white boots for a while.

[H_T 2,941]

And really, what else does Bruce have on his CV..?

Life membership.

[rpfc 27,531]

And really, what else does Bruce have on his CV..?

2008 B+F and the 3 games in 2005 pre-Guerra.

Those three games were great...

[Deeman 1,403]

No doubt.

West Coast with their treatment of Judd when Cousins ran from the booze bus....

Essendon with one of their all time greats in Mathew Lloyd was pensioned off as Captain....

Adelaide with their treatment of Tyson Edwards.......

Geelong with their treatment of Gary Ablett over the past twelve months....

Do you want more??

Collingwood with its deplorable treatment of Fraser, O'Bree, Lockyer, Medhurst and fify goal a year Jack Anthony dropped out of the side in favour of youth and now no longer at the club. Neone Leon was shopped around as well with no takers.

Shameful conduct.

[rpfc 27,531]

Collingwood with its deplorable treatment of Fraser, O'Bree, Lockyer, Medhurst and fify goal a year Jack Anthony dropped out of the side in favour of youth and now no longer at the club. Neone Leon was shopped around as well with no takers.

Shameful conduct.

But they got a flag out of it, which is what has blinded agent orange.

These things happen in a game no-one wants to leave.

We are on our way to the promised land and there will be many sacrificed along the way to get there.

But they can enjoy it as much as the rest of us.

I only want the FD to be honest with all players - tell them the truth and they, and we, can make decisions accordingly.

Edited November 8, 2010 by rpfc

[Choko 493]

Collingwood with its deplorable treatment of Fraser, O'Bree, Lockyer, Medhurst and fify goal a year Jack Anthony dropped out of the side in favour of youth and now no longer at the club. Neone Leon was shopped around as well with no takers.

Shameful conduct.

All 5 sides that can rightly claim to have made more better decisions than we have over the journey, unfortunately including Collingwood.

[John Crow Batty 8,259]

I guess its the other side of footballers being so highly paid. If not playing to automatic best 18 level and having diminishing residue value then good clubs will not cut them any slack.

[True Believer 1]

Brucie wanted to stay at Melbourne. The club was not prepared to committ. Don't blame Cam. The club virtually pushed him in the same way they pushed James.

he walked !!!... wanted more $$$$ and captaincy !!!!

[rpfc 27,531]

All 5 sides that can rightly claim to have made more better decisions than we have over the journey, unfortunately including Collingwood.

I don't understand this sentence.

[Roost It 1,434]

The way Bailey has gone about it over the past few years has been pretty poor.

Great servants of the club who have been burned:

Jeff White - great servant of the club

Addam Yze - gave his all

Robbo - gave heaps to our club

McDonald - did us all proud

Now Bruce

Surely apart of the clubs heritage is to recognise those who have served our club well in a dignified manner. The chopping of Robbo, White, McDonald and Yze were anything but done respectfully.

The Demons have done well in fixing many areas, they need a bit of work done in the football department.

You know what all those players have in common. None of them have a Premiership Medallion. Well played MFC. When you play a hard sport you need to play hard.

Edited November 8, 2010 by Roost It