My Phantom Draft 1.0

[Number 2 11]

Ok here is my first attempt at a phantom draft.

2 weeks out from the event, I would like people's thoughts on the spread of selections.

PS. This does appear a very even draft outside the top 15.

The Top 50

1. Melbourne - Tom Scully

2. Melbourne - Jack Trengove

3. Richmond - Dustin Martin

4. Fremantle - Anthony Morabito

5. North Melbourne - Ben Cunnington

6. Sydney Swans –Gary Rohan

7. West Coast – Lewis Jetta

8. Port Adelaide – Brad Sheppard

9. Port Adelaide – John Butcher

10. Essendon- Kane Lucas

11. Melbourne – Aaron Black

12. Carlton – Luke Tapscott

13. Adelaide – Daniel Talia

14. Sydney Swans – Koby Stevens

15. Western Bulldogs – Jake Melksham

16. Port Adelaide – Andrew Moore

17. Geelong –Ben Griffiths

18. Melbourne – Nathan Vardy

19. Richmond – Jake Carlile

20. Fremantle –Mitch Duncan

21. North Melbourne – Max Gawn

22. West Coast – Travis Colyer

23. West Coast – Alan Christensen

24. Essendon – Ryan Bastinac

25. North Melbourne – Jordan Gysberts

26. Essendon- Jesse Crichton

27. Brisbane Lions –Josh Thomas

28. Geelong –James Craig

29. Adelaide –Dylan McNeil

30. Collingwood – Luke Ball (St. Kilda)

31. Western Bulldogs – Matthew Panos

32. St Kilda – Jasper McMillan-Pittard

33. Essendon – Troy Taylor

34. Melbourne – Callum Bartlett

35. Richmond – Nicholas Winmar

36. Fremantle – Daniel Menzel

37. North Melbourne – Joshua Cowan

38. Sydney Swans – Derrick Wanganeen

39. Hawthorn – Dylan Roberton

40. Geelong – Alex Carey

41. North Melbourne – Byron Sumner

42. Geelong –Mark Hutchings

43. Carlton – Sam Reid

44. Richmond – Kellen Geary

45. Adelaide –Jason Tutt

46. Hawthorn – Jesse Smith (north)

48. Brisbane Lions – Zac Ledin

47. Fremantle – Joel Houghton

49. Fremantle – Jack Fitzpatrick

50. Melbourne – Ayden Kennedy

Comments?

Edited November 12, 2009 by Number 2

[titan_uranus 24,571]

Ball won't get to 30.

[Number 2 11]

I think he will titan.

If the guy does not want to play for Melbourne I certainly would not pick him. Brisbane can't truly be that keen that leaves only Essendon as a potential threat to my scenario.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,836]

I think he will titan.

If the guy does not want to play for Melbourne I certainly would not pick him. Brisbane can't truly be that keen that leaves only Essendon as a potential threat to my scenario.

Why would Brisbane not be keen? Is it not obvious they are loading up for a flag tilt? Maybe they do not have the cap space but I dont understand why they would not be keen.

[H_T 3,032]

I think he will titan.

If the guy does not want to play for Melbourne I certainly would not pick him. Brisbane can't truly be that keen that leaves only Essendon as a potential threat to my scenario.

I think North at pick 21 might be interested. They have No.25 as well.

[Crackers 67]

I think North at pick 21 might be interested. They have No.25 as well.

Brisbance have extra room in their cap as they didn't resign Bradshaw...I think they will have a big crack at him.

By the way if Butcher is gone and Tapscott or Melksham is still their I would take them over Black and pick up Thorp PSD

[Number 2 11]

Why would Brisbane not be keen? Is it not obvious they are loading up for a flag tilt? Maybe they do not have the cap space but I dont understand why they would not be keen.

Cap issues is why I thought that Brisbane may not be keen.

North are in a very similar boat to us, if Ball does not want to play there, would they risk it?

For what it is worth I also think that Melbourne will take Mitch Thorp as our PSD pick 1.

So that means:

Scully, Trengove, Black, Vardy, Bartlett, Kennedy & Thorp will be Demons if my phantom draft is correct.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

Not bad.

[Keyser Söze 0]

Cap issues is why I thought that Brisbane may not be keen.

North are in a very similar boat to us, if Ball does not want to play there, would they risk it?

For what it is worth I also think that Melbourne will take Mitch Thorp as our PSD pick 1.

So that means:

Scully, Trengove, Black, Vardy, Bartlett, Kennedy & Thorp will be Demons if my phantom draft is correct.

I think for MFC its more a case of "he doesn't want to be here, why use an unreasonably high draft pick on him?"

If North could use a pick that late on Ball, I don't see why they'd blink. Take him in a heartbeat.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Keyser Söze

[titan_uranus 24,571]

If the guy does not want to play for Melbourne I certainly would not pick him. Brisbane can't truly be that keen that leaves only Essendon as a potential threat to my scenario.

North Melbourne and Essendon both have 2 picks in the low 20s. Both I think will consider him.

Brisbane have also said they will take him if they can (meaning he's very unlikely to get past 27).

[Redleg 40,064]

Ball won't get to 30.

Agree. He may go much higher than many expect.

[RalphiusMaximus 6,012]

I just hope we don't get him (Ball).

I notice you don't have Grimes anywhere in your list. Reasons?

I'm also curious as to your choice of Black at 11. Why not Talia or one of the other tall forwards. Is it just a personal preference or do you see a clear feature that puts him ahead?

[DeeMfc 621]

Callum Bartlett - This kid is good !!!

Wearing #22

Edited November 12, 2009 by DeeMfc

[heycosta 0]

Well done Number2. You have obviously put in a fair amount of work into the phantom draft. In the most part you are spot on.

Just a couple of personal views:

I reckon the Blues won’t pass on Talia. He is is a perfect fit to hold down CHB. They don't need another midfielder like Tapscott.

Secondly, Troy Taylor has tremendous potential, very athletic, clean/strong hands, and sublime skills. Its just a hunch, but if he doesn’t go 1st round, he will certainly be snapped up early second round.

Also, I reckon Jack Fitzpatrick it too low. He is 200cm, lightening fast and has far too much potential to let slip until pick 49.

[Carn dees 108]

wow really like the looks of callum bartlet

[LITTLE STINGA 1]

If Ball goes to Collingwood it will make sick. No club should be bullied by Ball if he is the best available he should be chosen cause we may as well scrap trading cause free agency will be here. He is definately worth a pick between 11 and 20, I can't see him going past 16 Ball has stuffed up big time.

What ever happens to Ball happens but what the Melbourne must do is keep Connors away from our kids. Conners only cares about his commission, he is a joke.

The sad thing is when the draft is over most of the media coverage will centre around Ball if he doesn't go to Collingwood, they will go on about free agency again when the media should be focusing most of their attention on Scully and Trengove.

With the constant lukewarm actions by Collingwood in the media and trade week regarding Ball it's got me farked why he is so keen to go there.

Edited November 12, 2009 by LITTLE STINGA

[Crystal Dees 372]

Callum Bartlett - This kid is good !!!

Wearing #22

Good pace

Good vision

Good kick

Confident

and like every player on You Tube - never makes a mistake

So why didn't he get a game with Vic?

[Jack7 521]

Port were desperate to trade for Ball after losing the 2 Burgoynes,so they'll take 2 kids at 8 & 9 and take Ball with 16 before our pick 18.They need a tough ready made mid now after just missing the finals this year.

I'm going to pi55 myself when Port reads out his name.

I also think Sydney could take him at 14 and he would suit their gameplan with all their stoppages and small ground.They've picked up Mumford,Bradshaw,Seaby and the return of Kennelly and i think Rohan and Ball would top them off.They also need to replace Kirk soon and Ball would fill that void.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Jack7

[Theo 272]

Callum Bartlett - This kid is good !!!

Wearing #22

I hope we pick this kid. He has a great penetrating kick and can break open a game. X factor written all over him.

BigFooty posters think that if he hadn't done his ACL this year he would be a top 10 pick. For what it's worth these comments make interesting reading.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626344

Do you think we should look at Liam Patrick at 50?. I actually like the look of Myles Pitt from the Stingrays. Saw him in the TAC grandfinal playing at FF and looks like a natural footballer at 190cm and 93kg. Reminds me of Bradshaw, strong mark good kick, composed and does not get pushed off the ball easily. The type of player that could easily bob-up and snare 2 or 3 goals. He would be a good solid pick at 50.

[Number 2 11]

answers to some questions:

heycosta, the Blues bypass Talia in favour of Tapscott they feel Talia will not develop into a versatile player and have penciled him as only a CHB. With Waite being able to play CHB, Thornton in the mix and Maguire (St.K) to be drafted the blues opted for Tapscott. Purely hypothetical but it is how I think they will draft.

ralphius, Dylan Grimes would be a romantic story for many Melbourne people. Many (myself included) think Jack Grimes will be our best player sooner rather than later, unfortunately his younger brother isn't as polished a performer as Jack. Dylan could be in the draft mix from 30-60 I just don't see the Demons or any other team taking him before pick 50. Note that I probably put Kellen Geary from Bendigo in the place I had slated for Grimes.

Also, with Black I feel he is the more agile of the available KPP. I also feel that his learning curve is not as steep as so many others in this draft.

PS. Thanks for all the positive feedback everyone.

[Number 2 11]

I hope we pick this kid. He has a great penetrating kick and can break open a game. X factor written all over him.

BigFooty posters think that if he hadn't done his ACL this year he would be a top 10 pick. For what it's worth these comments make interesting reading.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626344

Do you think we should look at Liam Patrick at 50?. I actually like the look of Myles Pitt from the Stingrays. Saw him in the TAC grandfinal playing at FF and looks like a natural footballer at 190cm and 93kg. Reminds me of Bradshaw, strong mark good kick, composed and does not get pushed off the ball easily. The type of player that could easily bob-up and snare 2 or 3 goals. He would be a good solid pick at 50.

I'm thinking Miles Pitt will make his way to the rookie draft Theo and I am not sold on Liam Patrick.

[Carn dees 108]

Why arent you sold on Liam Patrick?

Have you seen him play, the only reason i would take him at 50 is because of his freakish attributes and you really never no what can come out of it.

[Number 2 11]

Liam Patrick fails to meet the MFC needs at that stage of the draft. I believe we have like players that are far more advanced than Liam. Melbourne will take Dylan Grimes at 50 before Liam Patrick I think.

[DeeMfc 621]

Good pace

Good vision

Good kick

Confident

and like every player on You Tube - never makes a mistake

So why didn't he get a game with Vic?

Because he did his anterior cruciate and barely played a match in 2009 ?

Article in todays Hun has him as a late 1st to early 2nd round selection.

[Salems Lot 2,470]

I hope we pick this kid. He has a great penetrating kick and can break open a game. X factor written all over him.

BigFooty posters think that if he hadn't done his ACL this year he would be a top 10 pick. For what it's worth these comments make interesting reading.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=626344

Jeepers, this kid can hit targets. Normally these highlight reels seem to feature lousy finishing but he looks the real deal