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Valenti offers far more than just "endeavour", his football smarts, awareness, quick hands, good footskills and leadership have been much underrated by many.

Clint, what do you perceive as being Valenti's weaknesses?

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Clint, what do you perceive as being Valenti's weaknesses?

He's not the quickest, but that is often over-exaggerated here.

He's short, but like I have said many times he is often at the bottom of the pack where height is not much of an issue.

He's not the longest kick, but his short kicking is often good.

I was never surprised by his delisting, partly because he is the same mold as a Moloney, Jones, McDonald and I think that is his biggest weakness.

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He's not the quickest, but that is often over-exaggerated here.

He's short, but like I have said many times he is often at the bottom of the pack where height is not much of an issue.

He's not the longest kick, but his short kicking is often good.

I was never surprised by his delisting, partly because he is the same mold as a Moloney, Jones, McDonald and I think that is his biggest weakness.

So he has weaknesses, but not really...?

I have a higher opinion than RR of the bloke and I will go out on a limb and say that he will be on a list or RL somewhere in 2010.

Difficult to see a spot for him as is, even harder if we get Ball.

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I was never surprised by his delisting, partly because he is the same mold as a Moloney, Jones, McDonald and I think that is his biggest weakness.

Plus the possible additions of Scully and Trengove in this year's draft. It is a massive weakness.

An enormous weakness for Valenti.

Some would say gigantic.

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There are some players who's value around the club outweigh their football ability and skill, I reckon that Valenti is one of them.

Not every player on the list is talented enough to get a game every week.

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There are some players who's value around the club outweigh their football ability and skill, I reckon that Valenti is one of them.

The last one like that was Simon Godfrey. You cant carry players like that on AFL list of 40. You must move them on.

Not every player on the list is talented enough to get a game every week.

That's a worry, Valenti is not even on the main list.

We already have 4 or 5 on the main list who have their contract's expire in 2010 and will be gone because they are not good enough.

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There are some players who's value around the club outweigh their football ability and skill, I reckon that Valenti is one of them.

Not every player on the list is talented enough to get a game every week.

Why don't we take Dave Hughes with pick one in the draft, might not get a game but god he would be good to have round the club

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Why don't we take Dave Hughes with pick one in the draft, might not get a game but god he would be good to have round the club

Pffft. He'd request a trade to Carlton first chance he got.


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have we heard that valenti was cut in bad way??

who says he wont still train with us, and in the likely event we dont draft luke ball, we pick valenti backup with PSD1, he is as sound option as anyone else available at the moment

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Why don't we take Dave Hughes with pick one in the draft, might not get a game but god he would be good to have round the club

I was wondering where you got the name from.

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The last one like that was Simon Godfrey. You cant carry players like that on AFL list of 40. You must move them on.

That's a worry, Valenti is not even on the main list.

We already have 4 or 5 on the main list who have their contract's expire in 2010 and will be gone because they are not good enough.

I think Valenti has a better football brain than Godfrey and is more skilled. Valenti is capable of playing good AFL football I don't think Godfrey was.

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Yet Godfrey was able to play a 100(?) games in a reasonably successful period for the club

Did you ever ask yourself the question. Why?

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I always liked Godfrey as a kid, reminded me of vacuum cleaners... and everyone knows what vacuums do...

Bit harsh. I always thought he gave 100%. He may not have been the best kick or disposal going around, but he did his job most of the time.

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The day he kicked two on the full in first few minutes of QB '03 (?) I could've killed Godders.

The moment he kicked a right foot goal from 45 on the run in QB '06 (?) I could've kissed him.

Good battler

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The day he kicked two on the full in first few minutes of QB '03 (?) I could've killed Godders.

The moment he kicked a right foot goal from 45 on the run in QB '06 (?) I could've kissed him.

Good battler

I Seen Godders at the London tavern, and asked him about that goal, the smile on the mans face was priceless, his remark was "I always a natural kick for goal" lol

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The day he kicked two on the full in first few minutes of QB '03 (?) I could've killed Godders.

The moment he kicked a right foot goal from 45 on the run in QB '06 (?) I could've kissed him.

Good battler

QB '07? I remember it well. Godfrey got the ball about 45m out and had a snap on goal. At that point, I buried my face in my hands and thought Godders WTF are you doing?! But when I heard the crowd roar, I jumped about 10 feet in the air when it went through

haha

Couldn't stand him when he had the ball in his hands but always loved his toughness.


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Are we expecting 1 maybe 2 more delistings in the next few days ?

Are we waiting on the outcome with Luke Ball before making an announcement ?

I would be very surprised if we dont

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I have to admit Im more than half expecting an announcement of anoter delisitng(s) tomorrow. Part of my thinking is to do with forward planning and no, not forward line planning. With GC and WS lurking we need tobuild stocks, some will be all but warehoused over next year or so but it might give us some more ( or better )options regardig our lists going forward than we might have at present.

We pretty well know as a club what some players' currency is or could be. The FD might roll the dice and think its better to excise a couple more in order to take on new blod that might provide more options for the club as it enters the twilight-zone of sanctioned 'poaching' etc

i.e it could be a simple gamble.. replace a lacklustre player(s) with one or two who might have more upside..might !!

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I have to admit Im more than half expecting an announcement of anoter delisitng(s) tomorrow. Part of my thinking is to do with forward planning and no, not forward line planning. With GC and WS lurking we need tobuild stocks, some will be all but warehoused over next year or so but it might give us some more ( or better )options regardig our lists going forward than we might have at present.

We pretty well know as a club what some players' currency is or could be. The FD might roll the dice and think its better to excise a couple more in order to take on new blod that might provide more options for the club as it enters the twilight-zone of sanctioned 'poaching' etc

i.e it could be a simple gamble.. replace a lacklustre player(s) with one or two who might have more upside..might !!

I'm hoping for another delisting - but I'm not holding my breath.

Its possible to list players ( in lodgement one) who have not signed a new contract - so tomorrow is not the end of the line.

I'm also hoping that Hughes comes off the rookie list to free up more space there

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i reckon theyll cut Newton and then put him on the rookie list (if no other club takes him) so they dont waste the money for paying him out totally.

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i reckon theyll cut Newton and then put him on the rookie list (if no other club takes him) so they dont waste the money for paying him out totally.

Are you a lawyer by any chance?

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i reckon theyll cut Newton and then put him on the rookie list (if no other club takes him) so they dont waste the money for paying him out totally.

I'm even going to start with what's impossible about this desire of yours...

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