Shane Valenti & Jordie McKenzie

[dazzledavey36 49,735]

got this from demonology from deesgirl who is pretty much 100% spot on with all of her other news..

great news if true this two especially really impressed me on the wekend. i said in the other thread the way Mckenzie played reminded me of a young brett kirk.. no pressure at all brother..

[Guest petjud]

got this from demonology from deesgirl who is pretty much 100% spot on with all of her other news..

great news if true this two especially really impressed me on the wekend. i said in the other thread the way Mckenzie played reminded me of a young brett kirk.. no pressure at all brother..

Did she add that one of the elevations was for John Meesen who is now on his way to the knackers yard with stress fractures...(see other rumour post)..two obvious candidates if we elevate, Spencer already is, Hughes is on comeback from long term injury and Healey is in the Casey ressies and is an in and under on pecking order behind Vakenti......a bit ouf thought about these exclusives.....

[Je Roos Salem 661]

I would love to see Valenti back in the squad, before McKenzie.

Valenti should definitley be the next elevated player, due to his AFL experience last year, and we know Valenti cay play well and perform well.

[stevenDEMON 0]

got this from demonology from deesgirl who is pretty much 100% spot on with all of her other news..

great news if true this two especially really impressed me on the wekend. i said in the other thread the way Mckenzie played reminded me of a young brett kirk.. no pressure at all brother..

Well done to the boys if true. Valenti deserves it.

not sure on young jordie. do we need more inside mids? Or back flanks?

[dee-luded 2,958]

Well done to the boys if true. Valenti deserves it.

not sure on young jordie. do we need more inside mids? Or back flanks?

Yes, we owe it to him & OURselves to have a good look at every player who plays in the Red & Blue. You never know who good anyone is until their given a chance to show something.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,438]

Well done to the boys if true. Valenti deserves it.

not sure on young jordie. do we need more inside mids? Or back flanks?

We say we have alot of inside mids. I would argue we have alot of big bodied - one paced midfielders. None of them are really inside clearance specialists but it makes us feel better to call them "inside midfielders".

From the games I have seen of Jordie (3 live plus one TV) he shows more nouse as a natural inside clearance midfielder than any of our so called "Inside midfielders".

Best of luck to Valenti and Jordie if this is the case as they both deserve their chance.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

We say we have alot of inside mids. I would argue we have alot of big bodied - one paced midfielders. None of them are really inside clearance specialists but it makes us feel better to call them "inside midfielders".

From the games I have seen of Jordie (3 live plus one TV) he shows more nouse as a natural inside clearance midfielder than any of our so called "Inside midfielders".

Best of luck to Valenti and Jordie if this is the case as they both deserve there chance.

x2.

With Garland, Blease and Meesen(?) on the LTI, lets get them in and try them out.

[stevenDEMON 0]

Also looks like our estimated wages budget this year will be blown out of the water again, due to rookies and match day payments

I think it happened 3 or so years ago. Oh well, thats footy

[Einstein 1]

Best of luck to Valenti and Jordie if this is the case as they both deserve their chance.

Ditto.

Good luck to them both.

Valenti has certainly done the hard yards and McKenzie looks a likely prospect.

Plus Jordie McKenzie is a great name to say with an Irish accent.

[Hannabal 4]

Did she add that one of the elevations was for John Meesen who is now on his way to the knackers yard with stress fractures...(see other rumour post)..

It's not a rumour. It's 100% irrefutable fact.

[CHAMP 347]

Ditto.

Good luck to them both.

Valenti has certainly done the hard yards and McKenzie looks a likely prospect.

Plus Jordie McKenzie is a great name to say with an Irish accent.

And why Einstein would you be sayin' it with an Irish accent?

[Freak 100]

you are severely over-rating our list if you people think we can classify our midfielders as either 'inside' or 'outside' midfielders. At this stage, all that matters are midfielders with good foot skills and midfielders with bad foot skills. Inside or outside is irrelevent at this stage.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

you are severely over-rating our list if you people think we can classify our midfielders as either 'inside' or 'outside' midfielders. At this stage, all that matters are midfielders with good foot skills and midfielders with bad foot skills. Inside or outside is irrelevent at this stage.

So Brock McLean is an outside midfielder??? And Aaron Davey is an inside midfielder????. Clubs plan and prepare for the fact that MFC players play in certain manner with certain strengths and weaknesses and they look to exploit that.

At this stage what is important is that they actually win the ball often from a contest than use it effectively by hand or foot. This is the domain of both the inside and outside midfielder. The classification of midfielders according to attributes is very relevant. Foot skills being just one of them.

[Einstein 1]

And why Einstein would you be sayin' it with an Irish accent?

Because it sounds good.

But don't mind me.

[beelzebub 22,701]

you are severely over-rating our list if you people think we can classify our midfielders as either 'inside' or 'outside' midfielders. At this stage, all that matters are midfielders with good foot skills and midfielders with bad foot skills. Inside or outside is irrelevent at this stage.

Im inclined to agree. Its seldom that anyone plays exclusively in one particualr mode or the other. Some are known for their in and unders but same said people might when th occasion presents take an "outside" ball. I feel there is far too much empahsis placed on such "BUZZ" pidgeon holing.

[rpfc 27,672]

I could have sworn that two elevations because of LTI's was the limit.

But with Spencer, Valenti, and McKenzie on the list I must be wrong...

Good luck to all 3, I am guessing at least one will play this week.

[Yencks 8]

So we have 6 rookies:

Valenti Mckenzie Hughes Zomer Healey Spencer

we have three potential LTI's...

we get one more to come in at round 11...potentially (depending on severity of meesens injury and $$$) we will be able to play valenti, mckenzie, hughes and spencer this year.

not sure about zomer and healey is still playing casey reserves

[Roger Mellie 3,653]

Plus Jordie McKenzie is a great name to say with an Irish accent.

Scottish is the one you're looking for

Och eyh da nu

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

I could have sworn that two elevations because of LTI's was the limit.

But with Spencer, Valenti, and McKenzie on the list I must be wrong...

Good luck to all 3, I am guessing at least one will play this week.

I dont think they will play all three this weekend. Only Spencer for Meesen

There is no confirmation I am aware of that has said Valenti and McKenzie have been elevated.

I am not sure who they would replace if they were elevated.

I think the option is there, I am not sure its happening just yet.

[Jaded No More 59,735]

The option of being able to elevate them, if nothing else, will put pressure on our other mids to perform, which can only be a good thing.

[Doggo 32]

Still no official update on the MFC site, but if this is true, i am pleased.

As is the way with injuries, when one person goes down an opportunity arises and hopefully Valenti and McKenzie (and Spencer) can make the most of those oppotunities presented to them this year.

I also look forward to seeing McKenzie in the flesh for the first time. Was very impressive against Coburg on the TV, although i'm not 100% sure he'll be getting much of a go unless injuries strike one or two of our 'inside' mids.

Very happy for Valenti! Despite having some queries over him, i do rate him and i think he'll give his absolute all when he finally does get back in the red and blue.

[Doggo 32]

So Brock McLean is an outside midfielder??? And Aaron Davey is an inside midfielder????. Clubs plan and prepare for the fact that MFC players play in certain manner with certain strengths and weaknesses and they look to exploit that.

At this stage what is important is that they actually win the ball often from a contest than use it effectively by hand or foot. This is the domain of both the inside and outside midfielder. The classification of midfielders according to attributes is very relevant. Foot skills being just one of them.

I agree with this, although i do see where Freak is coming from. Good skills by foot are so important, and severely lacking at MFC for that matter, however, you are right. Not classifying players according to their strengths/attributes, as well as their weaknesses, is just being naive.

[PeterJames 46]

i don't see why they would be promoted...

The players on he LTI Jamar for which spencer was promoted made sense, but with blease who was playing a game anyway means no need to promote anyone... To elevate mckenzie would be strange as he hasn't done enough to deserve a game. And Valenti probably the only rookie deserving but why promote him for meesen? just as i write this i see on the afl website it has been confirmed and wona out for six!!!

[montasaurus 0]

I believe no one new will be elevated for messen. MJ is about to come back from his LTI meaning the big spence would be back on the rookie list until the mid season rule. With messen out I would suggest this will just keep spencer on the snr list for now.

Re Valenti I am still supprised that valenti was not elivated for PW earlier in the season. he could be a chance for the spot now or more likely mid season.

[Hannabal 4]

I believe no one new will be elevated for messen. MJ is about to come back from his LTI meaning the big spence would be back on the rookie list until the mid season rule. With messen out I would suggest this will just keep spencer on the snr list for now.

Re Valenti I am still supprised that valenti was not elivated for PW earlier in the season. he could be a chance for the spot now or more likely mid season.

Deegirl on Demonology says that Valenti and McKenzie will be elevated and she's virtually never wrong. At the least I'd expect one to be elevated.