…because that exemplified precisely what a pregame/halftime show should be! They were able to present something that not only gave those present a fantastic experience, but that was also designed with the home viewing audience in mind. While the crowd got a well staged live show, for us at home It was like watching a crazy good music video clip.

I’d never heard of Bad Bunny until all of Trump’s ramblings, and people being all upset over the fact his performance would be in Spanish (he’s from Peurto Rico), but wow, if that was typical of what he does, those going to his shows during his tour here are in for a real treat; he was phenomenal!! As were Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by hardtack

How were green day?

It's not a realistic comparison as the budget for both is wildly different, and the local talent pool of artists and celebrities is wildly different, as well as the size of companies advertising during the show.

Superbowl half time budget is about $20 million USD... so roughly $30 million AUD here. That is purely for the show. The artists don't get paid and usually do it for cool factor, exposure, honour, or raise some form of awareness for a cause.

AFL grand final recently hit $5 million AU, and that's including the artist payment. Different worlds.

9 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

It's not a realistic comparison as the budget for both is wildly different, and the local talent pool of artists and celebrities is wildly different, as well as the size of companies advertising during the show.

Superbowl half time budget is about $20 million USD... so roughly $30 million AUD here. That is purely for the show. The artists don't get paid and usually do it for cool factor, exposure, honour, or raise some form of awareness for a cause.

AFL grand final recently hit $5 million AU, and that's including the artist payment. Different worlds.

Yup. So true. Not even close to the same.

I hope the AFL were watching because it was genuinely one of the all time worse half time shows we have seen in a long time.

18 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

How were green day?

Didn’t see them on the coverage…just the three I mentioned.

11 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

It's not a realistic comparison as the budget for both is wildly different, and the local talent pool of artists and celebrities is wildly different, as well as the size of companies advertising during the show.

Superbowl half time budget is about $20 million USD... so roughly $30 million AUD here. That is purely for the show. The artists don't get paid and usually do it for cool factor, exposure, honour, or raise some form of awareness for a cause.

AFL grand final recently hit $5 million AU, and that's including the artist payment. Different worlds.

Fair points, but I’m sure we could still manage a scaled down version..my point was that they take into account the home audience as well as those at the game when putting the show together.

4 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I hope the AFL were watching because it was genuinely one of the all time worse half time shows we have seen in a long time.

Shirley, you cannot be serious! I bet you were a fan of the Meatloaf and Angry Anderson GF performances 😉

Cancel the show at half time and put the money into junior and country footy.

I doubt that most of the NFL's traditional fanbase, ie those dedicated souls who sit in blizzard-like conditions in the middle of January to watch their team play, had any interest in Bad Bunny. But then again, most of them have zero chance of ever attending a Super Bowl. So, yes, the once a year types who have the money to splash $20K plus on a day out probably loved the event. And the NFL would have loved all the social media posts and clicks, most of which probably come from people who have never watched a game of (American) football in their life.

Sure the AFL could waste a fortune on a 15 minute half time event that will be targeted at people who will never watch a game of football and which will be immediately forgotten by most people unless it is horrifically bad. Or they could appeal to their supporter base by getting some of the greats of Australian live music to play for a fraction of the price, and spend the rest of the money propping up local and regional clubs so that the next generation of players has somewhere to play.

13 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Shirley, you cannot be serious! I bet you were a fan of the Meatloaf and Angry Anderson GF performances 😉

No i wasn't. This has nothing to do with any previous AFL performance

And yes i am being serious. I could ask you the same question in how you came to conclusion that was actually a great half time performance.

It was horrid.

Looks like i wasn't the only one who thought so too.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by dazzledavey36

10 minutes ago, poita said:

I doubt that most of the NFL's traditional fanbase, ie those dedicated souls who sit in blizzard-like conditions in the middle of January to watch their team play, had any interest in Bad Bunny. But then again, most of them have zero chance of ever attending a Super Bowl. So, yes, the once a year types who have the money to splash $20K plus on a day out probably loved the event. And the NFL would have loved all the social media posts and clicks, most of which probably come from people who have never watched a game of (American) football in their life.

Sure the AFL could waste a fortune on a 15 minute half time event that will be targeted at people who will never watch a game of football and which will be immediately forgotten by most people unless it is horrifically bad. Or they could appeal to their supporter base by getting some of the greats of Australian live music to play for a fraction of the price, and spend the rest of the money propping up local and regional clubs so that the next generation of players has somewhere to play.

I understand what you’re saying, but I think it kind of misses the point I was making, which was that if they are going to have entertainment, then design it for the home viewing audience as well as those in attendance. I did say I liked the artists, yes, but I’m in no way suggesting that we need to have world famous overseas artists…in fact, I have suggested it before, and would still prefer it, if we did give the platform to Australian acts, and preferably not the predictable Farnsey and Barnsey or even Seymour acts.

The AFL has their entertainment before the game, so it is not in any way impacting the flow of the game, nor the audience in attendance, so from that angle it is completely different to the NFL.

16 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No i wasn't. This has nothing to do with any previous AFL performance

And yes i am being serious. I could ask you the same question in how you came to conclusion that was actually a great half time performance.

It was horrid.

Looks like i wasn't the only one who thought so too.

I could find just as many posts supporting my view as well, but that would prove absolutely nothing… I guess it essentially just comes down to personal taste; although I probably wouldn’t have used the last pro TPUSA post as an example… the supposed christian right organised event featuring Kid Rock as their great headline act, the same Kid Rock that sings about lusting after underage girls and uses a lot of misogynistic commentary in his lyrics.

17 minutes ago, hardtack said:

the supposed christian right organised event featuring Kid Rock as their great headline act, the same Kid Rock that sings about lusting after underage girls and uses a lot of misogynistic commentary in his lyrics.

I thought Kid Rock was just another name for Epstein Island.

15 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I thought Kid Rock was just another name for Epstein Island.

And ‘rock candy’ is just another name for…?

Hope what the afl takes from it all is that if one of the biggest sporting events of the year can be held in the middle of that day why is the afl rushing to play a twilight or night grand final

I didn’t watch the half time hype but thought I would grab a bit of the action.

Tuned in with about 10 minutes left on the clock and it seemed like maybe 30 - 40 minutes later it finished.

OMG if the AFL ever introduce time outs it will be the end for me. Each act last a few seconds then blah blah blah. Absolutely no continuity which to me is what makes Aussie Rules such a great game.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No i wasn't. This has nothing to do with any previous AFL performance

And yes i am being serious. I could ask you the same question in how you came to conclusion that was actually a great half time performance.

It was horrid.

Looks like i wasn't the only one who thought so too.

Anyone listing a random bunch of anonymous X users is starting off on the losing side of any argument.

The HT show was fine. It probably was pretty awesome for the segment of the population that the NFL were targeting in an attempt to boost ratings and profits.

49 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

It's not a realistic comparison as the budget for both is wildly different, and the local talent pool of artists and celebrities is wildly different, as well as the size of companies advertising during the show.

Superbowl half time budget is about $20 million USD... so roughly $30 million AUD here. That is purely for the show. The artists don't get paid and usually do it for cool factor, exposure, honour, or raise some form of awareness for a cause.

AFL grand final recently hit $5 million AU, and that's including the artist payment. Different worlds.

Agree you can't compare the two in terms of budget, and for that reason there's no way the AFL half time show could ever be as spectacular.

But there's plenty of things the AFL could learn from the NFL to improve our routinely woeful half time without increasing the current funding envelope.

For a start they could contract an artist to create and produce an actual show (instead of the glorified Rock Eisteddfod Challenge the AFL puts on) - Jay-Z's Roc Nation has produced the Superbowl half time show since 2019 and are contracted for another few years. That means that unlike the AFL's halftime show, each show has a distinct theme - and performances and staging are structured around that theme.

This year's theme was love, unity and an expression of Bad Bunny's pride in Puerto Rico and his heritage (by the by, it is shocking how many Americans appear not to know that Puerto Rico is territory of the United States and Bad Bunny, like all other Puerto Ricans, is an American citizen).

A notable thing about the Super bowl headliners is they are usually homegrown (the exceptions in the last 15 years are The Weeknd, Shakira, Rhianna and Coldplay) whereas our headliners are always B grade artist from overseas that are past their prime.

The other big difference is, as you correctly note, the NFL do not pay their headliners - much, if not all of the $20 million budget goes to the production company (Roc Nation atm). The AFL, on the other hand, spend almost all of its $5 million budget on washed up B graders from overseas, usually America.

We have plenty of uber talented artist/festival organisers/theatre producers etc etc that could produce an awesome show with a $5 million dollar budget, particularly if done in collaboration with the performing artist as Roc nation has done since they started producing the Superbowl half time show in 2019.

With a $5 million dollar budget and a focus on using Australian musicians and performers, a top notch producer collaborating with an artist like Flume, Kevin Parker (ie Tame Impala) or Amy Taylor would put on a killer show.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by binman

21 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Hope what the afl takes from it all is that if one of the biggest sporting events of the year can be held in the middle of that day why is the afl rushing to play a twilight or night grand final

It started at 3:30pm San Francisco time where sunset was at 5:42.

The half time show was roughly at sunset.

57 minutes ago, hardtack said:

I could find just as many posts supporting my view as well ..

Seriously? From what I've seen it's running around 20:1 for. With good reason.

Incredible show, a fantastic celebration of the the best of latino culture and a powerful message (even though I didn't understand a word of it!).

Hard to see how any of it translates to the AFL, though I hope a few at head office were paying attention.

2 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Anyone listing a random bunch of anonymous X users is starting off on the losing side of any argument.

The HT show was fine. It probably was pretty awesome for the segment of the population that the NFL were targeting in an attempt to boost ratings and profits.

Last year the right in America went absolutely ballistic about Kendrick Lamar's half time show - it was the most watched Super Bowl halftime show ever, with a TV audience of more than 133.5 million viewers.

I'll bet my bottom dollar that is no longer the case (ie: i reckon this year's will now hold the record).

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by binman

2 hours ago, hardtack said:

…because that exemplified precisely what a pregame/halftime show should be! They were able to present something that not only gave those present a fantastic experience, but that was also designed with the home viewing audience in mind. While the crowd got a well staged live show, for us at home It was like watching a crazy good music video clip.

I’d never heard of Bad Bunny until all of Trump’s ramblings, and people being all upset over the fact his performance would be in Spanish (he’s from Peurto Rico), but wow, if that was typical of what he does, those going to his shows during his tour here are in for a real treat; he was phenomenal!! As were Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.

Really? Interesting I’m of complete opposite view ie manufactured BS that was as poor and fake as it gets but hey who cares that’s opinions for you ie no hate here

2 hours ago, hardtack said:

…because that exemplified precisely what a pregame/halftime show should be! They were able to present something that not only gave those present a fantastic experience, but that was also designed with the home viewing audience in mind. While the crowd got a well staged live show, for us at home It was like watching a crazy good music video clip.

I’d never heard of Bad Bunny until all of Trump’s ramblings, and people being all upset over the fact his performance would be in Spanish (he’s from Peurto Rico), but wow, if that was typical of what he does, those going to his shows during his tour here are in for a real treat; he was phenomenal!! As were Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.

The trump rednecks were all chocking on their Buds.

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

No i wasn't. This has nothing to do with any previous AFL performance

And yes i am being serious. I could ask you the same question in how you came to conclusion that was actually a great half time performance.

It was horrid.

Looks like i wasn't the only one who thought so too.

Nothing like reposting a bunch of MAGA accounts to back up your argument 🙄

Don’t like Bad Bunny’s music? Fine

But he’s the most streamed artist in the world coming off a massive Grammy win, so clearly there are a lot of people who enjoyed it

And for what it’s worth, most of these people hating on him and his performance are doing it for reasons that I won’t elaborate on here (but that anyone not wearing a big red cap can probably figure out)

PS - dread to think what your For You feed looks like with posts like that Dazzle