Curnow making Trac look like an amateur! The boy is running to the HILLS!

On 31/08/2025 at 13:26, cantstandyasam said:

What about Latrelle Pickett as our 3rd or rookie pick. It'd make Kossie happy.

He will be a targeted commodity.

Can play and has a massive leap on him.

Excitement machine.

Edited yesterday at 10:521 day by YesitwasaWin4theAges

Would cp5 plus a first get us Curnow?

18 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Would cp5 plus a first get us Curnow?

Why on earth would he want to come to us?

1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

Why on earth would he want to come to us?

And why would Trac want to go to Carlton?

The first comment says it all.

"The old pay cut don't mention the Cotton..."

Agreed that Curnow is making Petracca look civilised in his conduct by comparison

On the move you’d think

Makes life tough for Carlton, if a bloke is willing to give up hundreds of thosands of dollars to get away from you, it's probably a good indication the relationship is in a fair bit of trouble

10 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Makes life tough for Carlton, if a bloke is willing to give up hundreds of thosands of dollars to get away from you, it's probably a good indication the relationship is in a fair bit of trouble

Graham Wright is realising he has backed a Coach that some players don’t want to play under.

Hope they unravel.

On 31/08/2025 at 15:42, whatwhat say what said:

Jordan Ridley wants out of the peptides - has requested a trade to the bears

So that’s Allen and Draper as free agents, Ridley wants to go there, and they’ve got 3 academy picks ranked inside the top 20?

Handy for some

Bears, the Geelong of the North.

Or the tropical cats.

12 hours ago, Rednblueriseing said:

Would cp5 plus a first get us Curnow?

2 years too late.

This should've happened at the end of 2022.

50 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Makes life tough for Carlton, if a bloke is willing to give up hundreds of thosands of dollars to get away from you, it's probably a good indication the relationship is in a fair bit of trouble

On face value sure, but lets not kid ourselves. Curnow will more than make up the hundreds of thousands he forgoes in payment, with the parcel of land worth far more that he will get.

I will be worried as a Carlton fan if he says he wants to take a paycut to move to Sydney...

12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

On face value sure, but lets not kid ourselves. Curnow will more than make up the hundreds of thousands he forgoes in payment, with the parcel of land worth far more that he will get.

I will be worried as a Carlton fan if he says he wants to take a paycut to move to Sydney...

How is this even legal? The pay cut I mean.

Not only players choose their destination but also accommodate the requirements of said destination.

10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

On face value sure, but lets not kid ourselves. Curnow will more than make up the hundreds of thousands he forgoes in payment, with the parcel of land worth far more that he will get.

I will be worried as a Carlton fan if he says he wants to take a paycut to move to Sydney...

It's appropriate this thing is on a 'Rumours' thread. I confess it's one that nags at me.

Does anyone on here know if investigation and/or whistleblowing can establish it as fact? Is the AFL's reach into it constrained, by law or constitution, say?

That vested interest, of the AFL and its media, is the constraint is harder (impossible?) to prove as 'fact'. Is there a combination of media not in the AFL's thrall (who?) and disaffected potential whistleblower out there for an investigative reveal?

Is it actually (sadly) that important?...

3 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Does anyone on here know if investigation and/or whistleblowing can establish it as fact?

Do you mean the investigation that was conducted by AFL HQ by a former Geelong employee? 🤮

3 minutes ago, grazman said:

Do you mean the investigation that was conducted by AFL HQ by a former Geelong employee? 🤮

I restrained myself on that one, graz! Veiled reference to it in my 3rd para.

My forlorn wish is in the 2nd sentence of that para.

My last sentence is probably the reality 🥺

14 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

It's appropriate this thing is on a 'Rumours' thread. I confess it's one that nags at me.

Does anyone on here know if investigation and/or whistleblowing can establish it as fact? Is the AFL's reach into it constrained, by law or constitution, say?

That vested interest, of the AFL and its media, is the constraint is harder (impossible?) to prove as 'fact'. Is there a combination of media not in the AFL's thrall (who?) and disaffected potential whistleblower out there for an investigative reveal?

Is it actually (sadly) that important?...

I can categorically tell you that this happens, as I happen to know a very well known Geelong player who shall remain nameless who is getting paid well below market worth, but has a parcel of land worth millions.

Geelong is very clever in the way they do it, it makes it almost impossible to prove, as the land does not belong to Geelong or anyone officially employed by them.

The investigation into them was a total sham, conducted by a former Geelong employee.

3 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

's appropriate this thing is on a 'Rumours' thread. I confess it's one that nags at me.

Does anyone on here know if investigation and/or whistleblowing can establish it as fact? Is the AFL's reach into it constrained, by law or constitution, say?

That vested interest, of the AFL and its media, is the constraint is harder (impossible?) to prove as 'fact'. Is there a combination of media not in the AFL's thrall (who?) and disaffected potential whistleblower out there for an investigative reveal?

Is it actually (sadly) that important?...

None of such transactions would go thru Geelong's accounts. It would be via a third party and the AFL wouldn't have the right to audit it. Quite possible the 3rd party is a company or a trust. No hope there for the AFL to 'follow the money trail'.

But it still needs to be a legal transfer.

Potential to make money from the land:

• a 'peppercorn rent' to avoid it being purchased at market value. It could change legal status when the player retires. (DL legal eagles may confirm).

• the land may have potential for rezoning thus increasing its future value and a financial windfall.

• The player could create a farm thus allowing him to be classified as a 'primary producer' for income tax purposes. Given the types of expense deductions allowed and player marginal tax rate that would be a fairly juicy perk.

There are other 3rd party perks rumoured for Geelong players and their families.

I've long held the view that Geelong player salaries should be bench marked to the equivalent palyers in the league. That is really easy to do. The AFL should make them explain any significant deviations.

Would anyone on here be shocked if Danger, Cameron or Stewart were on $100k a year?

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Redleg

1 hour ago, Ted Lasso said:

Makes life tough for Carlton, if a bloke is willing to give up hundreds of thosands of dollars to get away from you, it's probably a good indication the relationship is in a fair bit of trouble

This is complete rubbish about giving up cash. The team that he goes to will pay him what he is worth and the fact this is being thrown out is just a play by his manager to stir things up and actually will have no bearing on the trade.

10 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

None of such transactions would go thru Geelong's accounts. It would be via a third party and the AFL wouldn't have the right to audit it. Quite possible the 3rd party is a company or a trust. No hope there for the AFL to 'follow the money trail'.

But it still needs to be a legal transfer.

Potential to make money from the land:

• a 'peppercorn rent' to avoid it being purchased at market value. It could change legal status when the player retires. (DL legal eagles may confirm).

• the land may have potential for rezoning thus increasing its future value and a financial windfall.

• The player could create a farm thus allowing him to be classified as a 'primary producer' for income tax purposes. Given the types of expense deductions allowed and player marginal tax rate that would be a fairly juicy perk.

There are other 3rd party perks rumoured for Geelong players and their families.

I've long held the view that Geelong player salaries should be bench marked to the equivalent palyers in the league. That is really easy to do. The AFL should make them explain any significant deviations.

@Jaded No More 's answer was powerful, but yours is the type of answer I was after, Luci.

Is it clear the AFL can't 'follow the money'?

If they can't, can someone else? Come on, D'land legal eagles!

Why are Geelong's arrangements more immune from investigation than those of the other clubs'? It does seem likely the tax and zoning possibilities are 'unique' to Geelong's setting (though I have a personal connection to where Cameron is, and there'd be hell to pay if a rezoning was attempted!)

34 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I can categorically tell you that this happens, as I happen to know a very well known Geelong player who shall remain nameless who is getting paid well below market worth, but has a parcel of land worth millions.

Geelong is very clever in the way they do it, it makes it almost impossible to prove, as the land does not belong to Geelong or anyone officially employed by them.

The investigation into them was a total sham, conducted by a former Geelong employee.

So who owned the land before it passed to the player? And what is Geelongs role in that?

9 minutes ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

@Jaded No More 's answer was powerful, but yours is the type of answer I was after, Luci.

Is it clear the AFL can't 'follow the money'?

If they can't, can someone else? Come on, D'land legal eagles!

Why are Geelong's arrangements more immune from investigation than those of the other clubs'? It does seem likely the tax and zoning possibilities are 'unique' to Geelong's setting (though I have a personal connection to where Cameron is, and there'd be hell to pay if a rezoning was attempted!)

The AFL would not have the legal right to audit a 3rd party.

Nor do they have the legal right to audit a player's personal financial/business dealings. Players would have elaborate company/trust/employee structures set up legally for their financial dealings. which would make 'follow the money' harder.

The only party I see that can 'follow' the money' is the Aust Tax Office but they would need a reason to. Unlikely, as all the things I noted (plus others) would be legal.

I often wonder why other clubs don't protest. Reckon it is because they have their own version of player/family perks. Freo and Eagles rumours have abounded for years.

Edited 22 hours ago22 hr by Lucifers Hero

9 minutes ago, ijustwannaseeaflag said:

So who owned the land before it passed to the player? And what is Geelongs role in that?

Obtain an historical title search (publicly available). Only problem is that in Victoria the title search does not reveal the capacity (eg trustee) in which the registered proprietor holds the property (exception is executor of estate can now be recorded). They could hold it beneficially (ie own it) or in a representative capacity (eg trustee). Still, it might reveal some further info or further avenues to investigate.

18 hours ago, poita said:

Lever hasn't been fit for the past two years, why would next year (at age 30) be any different?

I think the difference now Poita is that with the youngsters all turning up there is no longer the desire or need to rush him back into the team, our fitness team who are pretty good at this aspect can take their time and get him right. With the right coach and All the kids standing up next year, I’m feeling finals coming on.👍😎