12 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

Again, the poster was writing Mihocek off based on his performance last night, ie. one game. Experts simply don’t do that. They wouldn’t last long in their jobs if they did.

I'm the poster referred to. Here's a fuller exposition. His game was a shocker. He is broken. A toe tendon injury is not an easy repair as it's part of the body that has relatively low blood supply hence slower, more problematic recovery.

Anyone contemplating bringing him in is relying on past performances but he has never been a goal machine, averaging 1.67 goals per game (267 in 159). He has been a handy addition to the Pies' forward line but never its main target. His output is similar to Fritter except Mihocek will be 33 by round one next year and Fritter will be 29.

Wounded Mihocek is the Pies' problem now and they have other ageing players to dispose of so let's leave him to them to resolve.

Our recent record on recycling bit players from other clubs is not good.

We would do better punting on a promising kid. Experts sometimes do that.

3 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

I'm the poster referred to. Here's a fuller exposition. His game was a shocker. He is broken. A toe tendon injury is not an easy repair as it's part of the body that has relatively low blood supply hence slower, more problematic recovery.

Anyone contemplating bringing him in is relying on past performances but he has never been a goal machine, averaging 1.67 goals per game (267 in 159). He has been a handy addition to the Pies' forward line but never its main target. His output is similar to Fritter except Mihocek will be 33 by round one next year and Fritter will be 29.

Wounded Mihocek is the Pies' problem now and they have other ageing players to dispose of so let's leave him to them to resolve.

Our recent record on recycling bit players from other clubs is not good.

We would do better punting on a promising kid. Experts sometimes do that.

I’m with you Pit.

17 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Other than a goal, Houston was bog ordinary on Saturday and has been the same all year! Massively overated player, glad to say, we dodged a bullet!

agreed. i was surprised how poor he was. definite gun kick when given room, but when the heat was on his kicking and decision making was very ordinary.

9 minutes ago, Bay Riffin said:

agreed. i was surprised how poor he was. definite gun kick when given room, but when the heat was on his kicking and decision making was very ordinary.

Commentators were suggesting he has been slow to adapt to his new home and regime and will be better next year. Maybe. But for the moment I am happy he went elsewhere. He will be 29 next year which, as mentioned on ABC yesterday, is close to the Pies' average age (28 and 8 months) so that makes him a good fit. And if he is a recruiting bust, a perfect fit. 🤣

We would be much better off going for Tex Walker.

25 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

We would do better punting on a promising kid. Experts sometimes do that.

Admittedly have been an admirer of how Brody Mihocek has gone about in the past. List management team must have been offered the elixir of youth or been dabbling in the dark arts. If this is the primary target of their trade/free agent acquisitions. Tim Lamb as the architect of this purported recruitment? He truly is cooked.

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by Tarax Club

If the Pies want May, then it would be to our benefit to involve him in a trade for Mihocek, to not dilute the compensation we will get for Spargo.

Not that I think the compensation will be great, but could be enough to get White for example.

Of course Pies will need to actually trade us something for May, and they can then throw Mihocek into the mix. It seems like they won't get any compo for him anyway given his age.

59 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

I'm the poster referred to. Here's a fuller exposition. His game was a shocker. He is broken. A toe tendon injury is not an easy repair as it's part of the body that has relatively low blood supply hence slower, more problematic recovery.

Anyone contemplating bringing him in is relying on past performances but he has never been a goal machine, averaging 1.67 goals per game (267 in 159). He has been a handy addition to the Pies' forward line but never its main target. His output is similar to Fritter except Mihocek will be 33 by round one next year and Fritter will be 29.

Wounded Mihocek is the Pies' problem now and they have other ageing players to dispose of so let's leave him to them to resolve.

Our recent record on recycling bit players from other clubs is not good.

We would do better punting on a promising kid. Experts sometimes do that.

Nothing wrong with punting on kids... but you need players out there that know what the actual f they're doing to show these kids the way.

Our current forward line is all a bit .....

And it needs to change.. Needs guidance on field

1 hour ago, pitmaster said:

I'm the poster referred to. Here's a fuller exposition. His game was a shocker. He is broken. A toe tendon injury is not an easy repair as it's part of the body that has relatively low blood supply hence slower, more problematic recovery.

Anyone contemplating bringing him in is relying on past performances but he has never been a goal machine, averaging 1.67 goals per game (267 in 159). He has been a handy addition to the Pies' forward line but never its main target. His output is similar to Fritter except Mihocek will be 33 by round one next year and Fritter will be 29.

Wounded Mihocek is the Pies' problem now and they have other ageing players to dispose of so let's leave him to them to resolve.

Our recent record on recycling bit players from other clubs is not good.

We would do better punting on a promising kid. Experts sometimes do that.

Thank you for explaining why you don’t want him at our club. I was commenting on your original post which were your thoughts based on Saturday’s game.

52 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If the Pies want May, then it would be to our benefit to involve him in a trade for Mihocek, to not dilute the compensation we will get for Spargo.

Not that I think the compensation will be great, but could be enough to get White for example.

Of course Pies will need to actually trade us something for May, and they can then throw Mihocek into the mix. It seems like they won't get any compo for him anyway given his age.

May is contracted. He must be traded or he stays. Has no bearing on Spargo compo.

2 minutes ago, CatFishPig said:

May is contracted. He must be traded or he stays. Has no bearing on Spargo compo.

he's not staying

will basically be free to a new home

54 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If the Pies want May, then it would be to our benefit to involve him in a trade for Mihocek, to not dilute the compensation we will get for Spargo.

Not that I think the compensation will be great, but could be enough to get White for example.

Of course Pies will need to actually trade us something for May, and they can then throw Mihocek into the mix. It seems like they won't get any compo for him anyway given his age.

Mihocek a free agent though how do we include him in a trade to not dilute Spargo compensation?

Edited 20 hours ago20 hr by Mouseymoo

We need to convince the Pies a trade for Steven May will be better than the AFL compensation for Mihocek.

If we an do this te Spargo compensation will not be diluted.

5 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

he's not staying

will basically be free to a new home

May would not be 'free' for another club. They would need to take on his contract or draw up another where's he paid what they offer. I very much doubt that it would be anywhere as much as we'd be paying him.

My tip is that he stays and plays out the year at Casey.

17 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Mihocek a free agent though how do we include him in a trade to not dilute Spargo compensation?

My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that if we trade for Mihocek rather than get him for free via free agency, then it won’t dilute the Spargo compensation.

7 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

My understanding, and I could be wrong, is that if we trade for Mihocek rather than get him for free via free agency, then it won’t dilute the Spargo compensation.

This would be my play, we'll give you Steven May for essentially nothing if you agree to a trade rather than through Free agency.

15 hours ago, Ghostwriter said:

Again, the poster was writing Mihocek off based on his performance last night, ie. one game. Experts simply don’t do that. They wouldn’t last long in their jobs if they did.

No I’m writing him off because of his age & injury concerns

47 minutes ago, CatFishPig said:

May is contracted. He must be traded or he stays. Has no bearing on Spargo compo.

No but getting Mihocek as a free agent will affect the Spargo compensation.

2 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

We would be much better off going for Tex Walker.

other than the fact hes racist and kozzy was one of the only players to speak out against him during it all

15 hours ago, BDA said:

I don't see any better options out there. no better viable trade options anyways.

On paper JUH sorting out his off field problems and getting back to 40 plus goal seasons (43 goals last year) is a better long-term option but his chances of getting back to that are probably less than 10 per cent.

5 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

On paper JUH sorting out his off field problems and getting back to 40 plus goal seasons (43 goals last year) is a better long-term option but his chances of getting back to that are probably less than 10 per cent.

Odds are more like 2%

JUH needs to decide whether he is a footballer or a gangster

40 minutes ago, The Lobster Effect said:

On paper JUH sorting out his off field problems and getting back to 40 plus goal seasons (43 goals last year) is a better long-term option but his chances of getting back to that are probably less than 10 per cent.

But there's only a 5 per cent of that happening.

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

No but getting Mihocek as a free agent will affect the Spargo compensation

I suspect that the AFL compensation for Charlie will be somewhere between nil and zero.

52 minutes ago, BDA said:

Odds are more like 2%

JUH needs to decide whether he is a footballer or a gangster

Correct. And I rather he decided that as far away from our club as possible.

Even Geelong with their magic powers don’t want a bar of him, despite clearly chasing another tall (hence Curnow).

No. No. No.

Jon Ralph said tonight On The Couch that Brody was in tears in the rooms after the Prelim, which some teammates assumed was an indicator that he’d played his last game for Collingwood.

We’ve offered 3 years, Collingwood steadfast on 2.