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Lets not get caught up with recency bias. Fritta has been poor for most of this year. He has great skills and footy IQ but for some reason he just hasnt been able to click this year. Whether that has to do with his new role, change room dynamics, coach or whatever. If there is a win-win situation to be had, thats great. Not phased either way - he isnt the be all or end all of the footy team.

 
12 minutes ago, Fritta and Turner said:

What will I do......

Hope we negotiate a trade for Mason Wood?

 
22 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Lets not get caught up with recency bias. Fritta has been poor for most of this year. He has great skills and footy IQ but for some reason he just hasnt been able to click this year. Whether that has to do with his new role, change room dynamics, coach or whatever. If there is a win-win situation to be had, thats great. Not phased either way - he isnt the be all or end all of the footy team.

Fritta is the type of player that under s good solid coaching regime with the appropriate game plan such as a Brisbane or Collingwood, could still kick over 50 goals a season.

So we have struggled to kick goals for the last 3 Years. Let’s get rid of our primary forward as a result.

Complete Insanity

Now i can watch Fritsch and Hogan kick bags for other Clubs, whilst the MFC meanders along…..


Ah, the media… at it again. There’s not a sliver of truth to this. Just like a lot of what you read and hear in sports media, it’s completely fabricated.

Mrs Fritta rang me before I even saw this. She was giving me the heads up because she knows I’d have folks asking about its validity. She needn’t have called me. I know it’s entirely made up.

Just now, Ghostwriter said:

Ah, the media… at it again. There’s not a sliver of truth to this. Just like a lot of what you read and hear in sports media, it’s completely fabricated.

Mrs Fritta rang me before I even saw this. She was giving me the heads up because she knows I’d have folks asking about its validity. She needn’t have called me. I know it’s entirely made up.

I am interesting in your opinion of his form this season.

25 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Lets not get caught up with recency bias. Fritta has been poor for most of this year. He has great skills and footy IQ but for some reason he just hasnt been able to click this year. Whether that has to do with his new role, change room dynamics, coach or whatever. If there is a win-win situation to be had, thats great. Not phased either way - he isnt the be all or end all of the footy team.

He plays according to the role he’s given

 
Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

Fritta is the type of player that under s good solid coaching regime with the appropriate game plan such as a Brisbane or Collingwood, could still kick over 50 goals a season.

Cool - let's swap him for Cam Rayner.

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

I am interesting in your opinion of his form this season.

He hasn’t achieved what he aims to achieve. He’s given a role and he tries to execute accordingly. His role is tweaked every week depending on who we’re up against. He was suffering a loss of confidence which was snowballing with every poor performance. His performance on Sunday is what we can expect to see again.


He's not a bull but he is one of our most clinical finishes and crafty forwards. Absolutely need him.

Great players have lapses of form and confidence...but we were all reminded of what he can do last weekend.

Must keep!

The Bailey Fritsch from the North Melbourne game is a required player. The Bailey Fritsch from the previous 2 years not so much.

17 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

He hasn’t achieved what he aims to achieve. He’s given a role and he tries to execute accordingly. His role is tweaked every week depending on who we’re up against. He was suffering a loss of confidence which was snowballing with every poor performance. His performance on Sunday is what we can expect to see again.

Thanks.

I can see that he's been asked to play higher up the ground, and he did that very well for the first time on Sunday I thought.

I understand that things like goal kicking is a confidence based skill sometime, where the more you miss the worse you kick and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts.

Just hope we can see more of that defensive effort we saw on Sunday, because bad form can be forgiven, but bad effort IMHO can't be.

It was nice to see him hit the scoreboard, but it was even nicer to see him attack the contest and give off goals. That's the sort of team performance that made us successful in 2021, and it feels like we've lost a bit of that selflessness along the way... which is not a Fritta only issue btw.


55 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Lets not get caught up with recency bias. Fritta has been poor for most of this year. He has great skills and footy IQ but for some reason he just hasnt been able to click this year. Whether that has to do with his new role, change room dynamics, coach or whatever. If there is a win-win situation to be had, thats great. Not phased either way - he isnt the be all or end all of the footy team.

It seemed as if teams whole planning going forward the last two years was just to bomb it long forward, aiming at territory and then locking it in.

Landing the ball on top of Fritsch in the middle of a giant pack is just a complete waste of a forward entry. Sadly, no other tall forwards have been able to perform at a decent enough level to give him a chop out.

With more players lowering there eyes on the weekend, we see how dangerous Bailey still is and to me is a must keep primarily on the idea that what we get in return (late second rounder) is hardly worth it in what looks an average draft.

Imagine him roaming forward for Collingwood, Geelong or Brisbane. He'd be kicking 40+ a year still.

37 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Fritta is the type of player that under s good solid coaching regime with the appropriate game plan such as a Brisbane or Collingwood, could still kick over 50 goals a season.

100% agree.

22 minutes ago, Wells 11 said:

He's not a bull but he is one of our most clinical finishes and crafty forwards. Absolutely need him.

Great players have lapses of form and confidence...but we were all reminded of what he can do last weekend.

Must keep!

100% agree as well.

I always back his finishing and don't even get upset when he takes it on himself to finish the play instead of passing it off. At times I see people calling him selfish which it can look that way but still, I'm always happy for him to take the ownership as he's a great finisher.

The new role I think suits him because he has the iq and skills to deliver the ball inside 50. But aside from the North game his form hasn’t been great. Maybe it’s a fitness thing as well.

It’s a similar conundrum to Kozzy. He is a lethal forward player but his skills and speed are of more value to us up the ground.

4 minutes ago, Deeko2 said:

With more players lowering there eyes on the weekend, we see how dangerous Bailey still is and to me is a must keep primarily on the idea that what we get in return (late second rounder) is hardly worth it in what looks an average draft.

Yep. And how dangerous he himself is when lowering his eyes and looking for a target inside 50.

I was going to reply to this thread telling everyone why I was in (what I expected to be) a minority hoping we wouldn't trade him. Doesn't seem so. The general frustration with him on this forum is either something I've overblown in my own head or doesn't translate to "Get rid of him".

Anything actually come from the club or Fritsch himself, is this just another media thought bubble claiming to be news?

Mitch Cleary the Geelong shill? But also Collingwood or Hawthorn at the moment. Seems the AFL want 3 Victorian powerhouses while the other 7 are District 12 in comparison. Journos would not be pushing narratives for all these players to go to one of those three without HQ being OK with it. Especially as some of it is on the AFL website.


Don't believe this, and objectively does not make sense.

We have struggled to kick goals this year, so we're happy to move on the most established goalkicker in our forward line, for a complete unknown, or better yet, nothing? Sure, this has not been his best year, but I could say that about almost everyone on the list. Shall we move them on, too? He's been asked to play different roles and I haven't really agreed with some of them because he will never be the mongrel tackle machine that some of you want him to be. He's a high footy IQ (usually) deadeye who knows where to run to - problem is not many in the team know where to kick it to - because we insist on bombing i50. No wonder his goal output is down!!! Fix our delivery for guys like Fritter, and he will score more. Promise. Double promise.

He's a Dees legend and an absolute gun. Some have short memories, and are happy to lay blame at the easiest target - the guy who kicks goals, neglecting all the work that has to go into the moments before the goals happen.

Frittata - stay, please. We have much work to do, and I can't see it being done without someone who knows how to kick goals.

5 minutes ago, JTR said:

Anything actually come from the club or Fritsch himself, is this just another media thought bubble claiming to be news?

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Incidentally, it’s funny how this story comes out immediately following Fritta’s best game for the year. And when I say story I mean fairytale 😉

Edited by Ghostwriter

I’ve said in another thread, Fritsch has genuine value. Not so sure Lever, May, Spargo, Viney and all others thrown up do.

If the club was looking to get some currency in, he’s the man to help acquire it.

Having said that, if the new gameplan starts to click more consistently, aside from supporters, he will stand to gain the most.

 

Would swapping Harrison Jones or Peter Wright plus a pick change anyone's mind?

I might consider Jones?

15 minutes ago, Ghostwriter said:

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Incidentally, it’s funny how this story comes out immediately following Fritta’s best game for the year. And when I say story I mean fairytale 😉

coaches votes too.

I try ignore anything that footy media says between Monday morning and Thursday afternoon because it's just crying for attention.


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