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Reasons for our Inaccuracy?

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15 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

Our players aren't good enough. Simple chat.

… or just don’t concentrate enough, mentally soft under game pressure??

Surely nobody making TAC (or whatever it is now called) is unable to kick, let alone their ‘elite’ who get AFL listed.

Just care more, guys!

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    Poor entries inside 50's going too wide

    Poor skilled players that just aren't good kicks like Viney, Trac etc

    Lack of mental toughness

    Not having a stable effective fwd line. JVR, Turner are very good kicks usually (and Fristch but I can't deal with him right now). If these 3 were in form and mentally in the zone with LJ as 2nd ruck we would see a big difference

    Every time a fwd has a shot they must feel like if they miss they might get dropped. Stability counts and we have zero

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    Ball drop not in line with the foot, not leaning over the ball enough when kicking through it.

    Like a golf swing not concentrating on contact with the boot, looking up too soon.

    I'm available for lessons.

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    I think it's different for different players.

    Gawn - just not a good kick in general

    Trac - similar to Gawn

    Fritsch - he is mentally stuffed atm

    JVR - good kick but currently can't get the ball

    Spargo - generally a good kick from within 40m but missed a sitter on the weekend, suggests a mental thing

    Sparrow - good kick but doesn't get enough of it

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    21 minutes ago, DubDee said:

    Every time a fwd has a shot they must feel like if they miss they might get dropped.

    Fritter says “I’m ok thanks”

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    Training in an outer South Eastern suburb does not explain Fritsch missing a goal badly from 15 metres out on a slight angle and Windsor missing the most elementary 30 metre set shot directly in front on a perfect windless early afternoon game before the dew has set in.

    A lot of the boys couldn't handle the pressure on Saturday.

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    51 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

    Our players aren't good enough. Simple chat.

    Maybe. But Dee-tails-key may have a point.

    If you are practising kicking in a windy location like Casey it makes it harder to know where your kicking is really at. If you miss you (and your coaches too) might put it down to the wind whereas there is something wrong with your technique and that gets overlooked as a result.

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    10 minutes ago, sue said:

    Maybe. But Dee-tails-key may have a point.

    If you are practising kicking in a windy location like Casey it makes it harder to know where your kicking is really at. If you miss you (and your coaches too) might put it down to the wind whereas there is something wrong with your technique and that gets overlooked as a result.

    Ok but if I’m Bailey Fritsch and I’m 20 out directly in front I reckon if I aim between the big sticks it probably goes through.

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    Good kicks still score goals in windy conditions.

    Poor kicks are still poor kicks, no matter the conditions.

    The question to ask is why there has been no change to the techniques for Gawn, Petracca etc over the years. It isn't hard to see what they do wrong in their approach.

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    4 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

    Ok but if I’m Bailey Fritsch and I’m 20 out directly in front I reckon if I aim between the big sticks it probably goes through.

    Or course, but there may be 2 issues. One is mental (which Fritsch seems to be suffering unless you argue he has a technique problem in which case you have to explain why that has suddenly developed).

    The other is players not improving their techique. That could be down to poor coaching, lack of application etc but there could well be a component of mentally making excuses for missing due to the wind at Casey and thus not fixing poor technique.

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    1 minute ago, sue said:

    Or course, but there may be 2 issues. One is mental (which Fritsch seems to be suffering unless you argue he has a technique problem in which case you have to explain why that has suddenly developed).

    The other is players not improving their techique. That could be down to poor coaching, lack of application etc but there could well be a component of mentally making excuses for missing due to the wind at Casey and thus not fixing poor technique.

    Bad kicking is bad football wherever it is. Has nothing to do with Casey fields.

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    6 minutes ago, george_on_the_outer said:

    1 minute ago, FearTheBeard said:

    Bad kicking is bad football wherever it is. Has nothing to do with Casey fields.

    Talk about missing the point. Yes, bad kicking is bad football. But you try to teach good technique in a wind tunnel. If you make an adjustment to style, you might or might not get a clear result. Do it in perfect conditions and you are much more likely to do so.

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    28 minutes ago, sue said:

    Talk about missing the point. Yes, bad kicking is bad football. But you try to teach good technique in a wind tunnel. If you make an adjustment to style, you might or might not get a clear result. Do it in perfect conditions and you are much more likely to do so.

    No Sue, you are just making excuses for them. They don’t need that, they need to be better.

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    3 minutes ago, FearTheBeard said:

    No Sue, you are just making excuses for them. They don’t need that, they need to be better.

    I am not making excuses. I just agreed with the OP that it could be a factor (by making improvement in technique difficult to measure) and then tried to deal with irrelevant comments like 'bad kicking is bad football'. It may well be that we just have a group of crud kickers. It also may be that it is harder to improve them if you can't train in perfect conditions.

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    56 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

    Need electrodes attached to their nether regions and a few volts delivered when they miss.

    Old war injury chook

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    I guess the most obvious answer is that we don't kick it between the two high white pole things coming up out of the ground.

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    performance based pay, base rate in accordance with player ability, bonuses earned in accordance with fulfilled or not requirements of on field role,

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