2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Hah. My partner goes for Carlton - I said on Wednesday it was good we played on Thursday and Friday night because then we could just enjoy our weekend. Nailed that, unfortunately.

We suck.

On the downside though, a bit more time before the next loss would be nice.

We were defeated by Dad’s Army.

I’m over it - Goodwin and his [censored] has got to go ! ~ Got good enough players - Got no idea !

Just now, Micksdemons said:

I’m over it - Goodwin and his [censored] has got to go ! ~ Got good enough players - Got no idea !

Censored word was cra p

1 hour ago, adonski said:

Jeelong 63 more marks

Suspect Goody makes a change shortly

Yep hopefully he quits

1 hour ago, BDA said:

our window is closed

effort was there but everything we do is so laboured. all huff and puff with little inspiration

skills not at AFL level. can't execute simple handballs

we're cooked. time to plan for draft and trade period. trade out some senior players and bring in some more youngsters and build our next team to challenge

and find a new coach. Goody ain't the man to take us forward.

Please stop catastrophising. Yes, it's bad right now but we still have some powerhouse players. Goodie needs to blend the new guys into the team and its new game plan.

28 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Umm the coach is totally delusional, is he serious??

1 minute ago, picket fence said:

Umm the coach is totally delusional, is he serious??

We were better tonight. In with a chance before another Q4 fadeout.

21 minutes ago, Go Lordie said:

We were better tonight. In with a chance before another Q4 fadeout.

It’s a 4 Quarter game, so i don’t buy that excuse

So yeah I went to the game tonight. Just got home. Thoughts:

• effort was way better

• Forward line is non existent

• Engine room in the middle is ok at times (Max was good tonight), but it’s a shadow of its former self

• We got out marked like crazy

• Some good passages of play, but the players don’t know where their teammates are most of the time, so often get stuck with the ball and nowhere to go except a 50/50

• Petty - gah. I really had hopes the guy would get back to what he was, but he can’t jump anymore, and has no energy or intent

• Spargo - still only second game back but time is running out to show he has something

23 minutes ago, Go Lordie said:

We were better tonight. In with a chance before another Q4 fadeout.

Not really… the Cats were all over us, but off target for the first three quarters. We were never a genuine chance. Sure our pressure was ok at times, but we were never able to sustain it. We seem to be unable to rid ourselves of the desire to just bomb the ball long into the forwards… watch the Cats, time and time again, they were able to find players with space in the forward line and hit them on the chest. We looked like a team without a clue and without a plan. We looked lost!

There’s just one word that sums up how I feel: Flabbergasted!

Culture

Goodwin is a dead man walking

2 hours ago, Tom Dyson said:

……..

Also umpires can gagf'd as far as i'm concerned, took away all our momentum in the third when we were coming.

Just like a proverbial punch in the bollocks.

Never liked Geelong. [censored] place.

Also, I do not know if I’ve said it before, but why the [censored] do we wrestle in the CB when they are really not very good at it?

We currently have one of the best clearance rucks the game has seen.

Max can literally put the ball anywhere in the square. He doesn’t get beaten.

The three midfielders should be playing as loose as possible. Starting maybe 10 m behind him and running forward at different angles to give Max three different hit to possibilities.

This method is very difficult to defend against. By playing a congested midfield, we are playing into the oppositions hands and curtailing what should be a massive advantage.

3 hours ago, hardtack said:

Absolute rubbish… we have no forward line, no effective mids, still just play up the wings, cannot hit a player on the chest to save ourselves, our skills simply aren’t up to scratch… awful to watch!

We can’t make 3 consecutive possessions… mark neeld days

5 hours ago, Go Lordie said:

Please stop catastrophising. Yes, it's bad right now but we still have some powerhouse players. Goodie needs to blend the new guys into the team and its new game plan.

We’ve been spanked last 3 weeks. An experienced team playing in patches ain’t going to cut it.

The cultural rot that set in over the last few years is now manifest on the field

I remember the neeld era. Recent performances are giving me flash backs

Make a proper assessment of where we are and plan accordingly. Tassy coming into the comp in a few years. We can’t afford delusional thinking.

6 hours ago, fr_ap said:

Hunter, Billings, Schache, McAdam - those are recruiting decisions that wouldn't have happened under Roos' watch, or Todd Viney's watch.

Hunter was more than useful when he came across, McAdam we may never know (injury).

As for the rest and what happened under Roos, Tommy Bugg, Ben Kennedy, Pat McKenna, Ben Newton say hello, even some of the people we drafted/rookied. There were more than a few doozies there. And let's not even mention Heritier Lumumba.

You're rewriting history.

Edited Friday at 18:251 day by bing181

4 hours ago, DiscoStu17 said:

Also, I do not know if I’ve said it before, but why the [censored] do we wrestle in the CB when they are really not very good at it?

We currently have one of the best clearance rucks the game has seen.

Max can literally put the ball anywhere in the square. He doesn’t get beaten.

The three midfielders should be playing as loose as possible. Starting maybe 10 m behind him and running forward at different angles to give Max three different hit to possibilities.

This method is very difficult to defend against. By playing a congested midfield, we are playing into the oppositions hands and curtailing what should be a massive advantage.

Exactly! should we not be able to play separate to our man at CB and back ourselves in.?? This wrestleing sheeeit does my head in

How's the atmosphere down at GMHBA? What a boring game of footy fueled by zero atmosphere. We had some nice moments and a few players showed glimpses, but gee wiz we're boring to watch overall. So were Geelong for that matter, but I suspect it was them just doing merely enough all night to keep us at arms length.

Edited Friday at 19:011 day by John Demonic

54 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Hunter was more than useful when he came across, McAdam we may never know (injury).

As for the rest and what happened under Roos, Tommy Bugg, Ben Kennedy, Pat McKenna, Ben Newton say hello, even some of the people we drafted/rookied. There were more than a few doozies there. And let's not even mention Heritier Lumumba.

You're rewriting history.

I'm not talking only about their football ability. I'm talking about their character, intensity, desire...Hunter was a bad influence on several in the group off field and for a senior player, didn't set an example to the group (and actually set a bad cultural example). Billings and schache play with zero intensity. McAdam perhaps harsh, sure.

Point is the character and belief of the playing group is the sum of the parts. These might seem small flaws within individuals but when you add 3, 4, 5 questionable characters a year the shape and complexion of the group changes over time - subtly at first and then at critical mass.

Bugg, Kennedy and Newton weren't amazing players but put in. Bugg did a lot for the character of the group and made the likes of Watts a much better player for a few years there as part of our rise as at the very least, he could inspire confidence and gumption in his team mates.

You're missing the point with McKenna. Never made the grade, but didn't negatively impact culture or standards.

Lamb, Richardson, Goodwin allowed these types of flaws and efforts into our club...it changes the culture slowly. Others see what Hunter gets away with, or that half assed efforts get you a game if you're Schache or Billings.

Standards & Culture, Standards & Culture, Standards & Culture.

I don't understand how any of you who followed this team from the dark days and watched it turn can't see how things have changed on this front.

8 hours ago, dice said:

Kicked 0.0 as a small forward

Actually a good chance that he is leading the votes in the Keith Bluey Truscott medal. Great work ethic and does the little things that many in the team aren’t. Chin up!!!!!

2 hours ago, bing181 said:

Hunter was more than useful when he came across, McAdam we may never know (injury).

As for the rest and what happened under Roos, Tommy Bugg, Ben Kennedy, Pat McKenna, Ben Newton say hello, even some of the people we drafted/rookied. There were more than a few doozies there. And let's not even mention Heritier Lumumba.

You're rewriting history.

Compare who the cats, lions, pies & hawks have traded in, 3 of them are premiers, we won a flag and we’re in the premiership clock yet couldn’t attract good talent or a fwd to capitalise on our 500 fwd 50s!

We never ever looked like we could do enough to win. Playing behind the ball and chopping it around the backline, we never had players up the ground when we did break away. Goodwin is now coaching to mitigate the damage on the scoreboard.

Not uncommon for coaches on their way to the sack.

1 hour ago, fr_ap said:

I'm not talking only about their football ability. I'm talking about their character, intensity, desire...Hunter was a bad influence on several in the group off field and for a senior player, didn't set an example to the group (and actually set a bad cultural example). Billings and schache play with zero intensity. McAdam perhaps harsh, sure.

Point is the character and belief of the playing group is the sum of the parts. These might seem small flaws within individuals but when you add 3, 4, 5 questionable characters a year the shape and complexion of the group changes over time - subtly at first and then at critical mass.

Bugg, Kennedy and Newton weren't amazing players but put in. Bugg did a lot for the character of the group and made the likes of Watts a much better player for a few years there as part of our rise as at the very least, he could inspire confidence and gumption in his team mates.

You're missing the point with McKenna. Never made the grade, but didn't negatively impact culture or standards.

Lamb, Richardson, Goodwin allowed these types of flaws and efforts into our club...it changes the culture slowly. Others see what Hunter gets away with, or that half assed efforts get you a game if you're Schache or Billings.

Standards & Culture, Standards & Culture, Standards & Culture.

I don't understand how any of you who followed this team from the dark days and watched it turn can't see how things have changed on this front.

Billings character and standards is of high level.

Nick Reiwoldt said this last year in one of our early coverage and i take his absolute word especially coming from someone whos known to be manic and elite with his preparation a driving standards.

Billings issue is his consistency and development that has been his biggest downfall and I put that down to the [censored] poor development at St Kilda.

That has absolutely nothing to do with standards and culture at the Dees.

Ben Kennedy was a bad influence to the group due to his off field activities. You can figure that out yourself.. I have had this confirm to me previously by an ex Melbourne player. He was a bad influence on the likes of Harmes and Hogan.

McKenna and Ben Newton fall into the same bracket as Harry Sharp. Genuine list cloggers that add no value to the team when called upon.