Gerard made an interesting observation on 360 in that multiple outlets have all run with this storey suggesting someone from Oliver’s camp is leaking this information deliberately.

I don’t want to believe it but it is a logical supposition. You’d expect that the more outlets reporting this tells you there is something there and I’d doubt that McClure or Morris would be seen as credible sources.

I dunno what to believe.

Edited May 6May 6 by GS_1905

49 minutes ago, Redleg said:

So it will be a smaller % of our cap as time goes by.

No it won’t it will stay the same. That’s what we are saying.

whoever his manager is did a bang up job by his client - a player under contract that the club knew had...challenges, shall we say...that nevertheless managed to get a massive extension on huge coin tied to the rise in the overall cap

1 minute ago, whatwhat say what said:

whoever his manager is did a bang up job by his client - a player under contract that the club knew had...challenges, shall we say...that nevertheless managed to get a massive extension on huge coin tied to the rise in the overall cap

He was arguably the best player in the competition at the time.

18 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He was arguably the best player in the competition at the time.

certainly in the top 10

34 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

He was arguably the best player in the competition at the time.

15 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

certainly in the top 10

At the end of 2022 he was seven seasons into a career of extraordinary achievement and, of particular interest, extraordinary consistency and durability.

If that had been the symmetrical halfway point of his career, he would have finished as the all-time leader of every known inside midfield stat.

He also had never missed a game after debut.

41 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

At the end of 2022 he was seven seasons into a career of extraordinary achievement and, of particular interest, extraordinary consistency and durability.

If that had been the symmetrical halfway point of his career, he would have finished as the all-time leader of every known inside midfield stat.

He also had never missed a game after debut.

I also think that this can be a flat spot (if you call 28 disposals a game flat) that he finds his way out of. I really feel all this media is about playing with his perceived worth, when everyone knows he's an AC Cobra with minor panel damage. I like how Brad Green is pressing on this.

8 hours ago, Adam The God said:

He was arguably the best player in the competition at the time.

No "arguably" about it. When he signed he has won the AFLCA award twice in a row.

8 hours ago, picket fence said:

No idea from the piont does ANY of us really know what the real story is?? A bit of Empathy doesn't go astray either! You are talking about one of our greatest EVER players as if he is a throwaway item!

19 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

No "arguably" about it. When he signed he has won the AFLCA award twice in a row.

EXACTLY!🤩

9 hours ago, rpfc said:

No it won’t it will stay the same. That’s what we are saying.

Yes you are correct, I should have said there will be more money in the cap as it increases and not mentioned percentage.

I did fail maths in high school.

8 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

He also had never missed a game after debut.

Other than all the games he played in the vfl in his first year, when he was in / out of the senior side

No doubt he was an absolute marvel

Never the less, the stories since have made it clear that he had “issues” that required a lot of management

Did we offer a mega deal to a player who deserved it? Absolutely!

Has he failed to live up to his side of the bargain of maintaining the quality of player that he was? Unfortunately…

10 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

Gerard made an interesting observation on 360 in that multiple outlets have all run with this storey suggesting someone from Oliver’s camp is leaking this information deliberately.

I don’t want to believe it but it is a logical supposition. You’d expect that the more outlets reporting this tells you there is something there and I’d doubt that McClure or Morris would be seen as credible sources.

I dunno what to believe.

I wouldn't be blown away if it was Geelong instigating this [censored].

On 04/05/2025 at 20:02, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

So, when any AFL player takes time away for mental health, the Media always respect the players privacy.

Yet , when Clayton takes a break, McClure and Morris can't help but fall over themselves to "break" news stories about him. Why do they not respect Clayton's privacy? It's incredibly disrespectful.

And then can't handle the blow back when Greeny gives em' a serve. Poor things

1 hour ago, Roger Mellie said:

I wouldn't be blown away if it was Geelong instigating this [censored].

I’d accept this as a possibility if it was just Jay Clark and McClure. But there are multiple outlets / platforms running with this which is why I’m not so sure. You’d expect at least some of these to validate the source.

I get that journalism is no longer the shining beacon of integrity as well so…

35 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

I’d accept this as a possibility if it was just Jay Clark and McClure. But there are multiple outlets / platforms running with this which is why I’m not so sure. You’d expect at least some of these to validate the source.

I get that journalism is no longer the shining beacon of integrity as well so…

im convinced outlets run stories based on other outlets running stories

1 minute ago, biggestred said:

im convinced outlets run stories based on other outlets running stories

100% they do. News.com ran with the May/Prestia story and their only source was Tom Morris tweets...

8 minutes ago, biggestred said:

im convinced outlets run stories based on other outlets running stories

it is a blight.

45 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

100% they do. News.com ran with the May/Prestia story and their only source was Tom Morris tweets...

Been like that for years - generating content for each other to keep the story going. Unless it relates to Geelong, Collingwood or Hawthorn.

13 hours ago, GS_1905 said:

Gerard made an interesting observation on 360 in that multiple outlets have all run with this storey suggesting someone from Oliver’s camp is leaking this information deliberately.

I don’t want to believe it but it is a logical supposition. You’d expect that the more outlets reporting this tells you there is something there and I’d doubt that McClure or Morris would be seen as credible sources.

I dunno what to believe.

There is also the possibility that he is unhappy with the game time he is getting & this is his reaction to less time on the field.

32 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

There is also the possibility that he is unhappy with the game time he is getting & this is his reaction to less time on the field.

You can’t rule it out no matter what people on here say. It is always a possibility with Clarry or for any other player for that matter. I mean who expected Trac to behave the way he did last year or May / Melksham.

Egos make young people do silly unpredictable things.

2 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

You can’t rule it out no matter what people on here say. It is always a possibility with Clarry or for any other player for that matter. I mean who expected Trac to behave the way he did last year or May / Melksham.

Egos make young people do silly unpredictable things.

The only reason I don't believe that is that Garry Lyon came out and rubbished it and he doesn't usually do that unless he is very sure.

I believe he also has close connections to the Oliver family.

2 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

The only reason I don't believe that is that Garry Lyon came out and rubbished it and he doesn't usually do that unless he is very sure.

I believe he also has close connections to the Oliver family.

Yes I saw that, however he was then caught off guard with what Gerard had to say wrt to multiple outlets releasing multiple stories about Clarry on the same day indicating that it is unlikely a to be co incidence and that it - on the balance of probabilities- indicates a planned leak from Oliver’s camp.

Garrys view was also relating more to the point around Clarrys frustration with TOG being a motivation for the MH break.

5 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

Yes I saw that, however he was then caught off guard with what Gerard had to say wrt to multiple outlets releasing multiple stories about Clarry on the same day indicating that it is unlikely a to be co incidence and that it - on the balance of probabilities- indicates a planned leak from Oliver’s camp.

Garrys view was also relating more to the point around Clarrys frustration with TOG being a motivation for the MH break.

I get what Gerard was saying, but as mentioned in other posts there are news outlets who actually write an article and site other articles about the same thing....

3 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

100% they do. News.com ran with the May/Prestia story and their only source was Tom Morris tweets...

I hope May and Prestia take legal action.

7 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I hope May and Prestia take legal action.

Wasn’t it Vic Police that released a statement about charges which they subsequently walked back with a re-released statement?