6 minutes ago, roy11 said:

If you were collingwood would you rather Rowell or Petracca?

Reckon Rowell stays at the Suns if they're pushing for finals.

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Petracca's actions on Friday night were a plea to other clubs to "come and get me" from this mess.

With the whole footy world to view on a Friday night selfish behaviour from a player that wants out.

The club knew what they were trading out in the off season to Essendon.

They have probably made a deal with Christian to play 1 more year until a suitable trade can be found to provide us with a way back into top 10 draft territory.

Kozzie might have the same arrangement also.

I thought his body language after the match was generally consistent with his usual emotional-self, and didn’t see anything “performative” about it at all.

Do we really have to analyse and try to “read in” to why a guy who’s worked like a mofo to get through a potentially career/life-ending incident, might be [censored] off to find himself in the middle of a rabble at the end of it all?

And for what it’s worth, Jordan Lewis is getting absolutely roasted on social media (by non-MFC supporters, mind you) for his negative comments about Trac showing that kind of emotion.

2 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Petracca's actions on Friday night were a plea to other clubs to "come and get me" from this mess.

With the whole footy world to view on a Friday night selfish behaviour from a player that wants out.

The club knew what they were trading out in the off season to Essendon.

They have probably made a deal with Christian to play 1 more year until a suitable trade can be found to provide us with a way back into top 10 draft territory.

Kozzie might have the same arrangement also.

23 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

I think Christian and his now new management are well aware we are not accepting anything other than a top 10 pick and another inside the 1st round.

Clubs didn't have time to arrange anything suitable in the short time frame during the season whilst this was playing on in the background.

They will now have had a full year to plan and make a proper proposal to us now.

Are these comments based on facts/inside info or pure speculation.

If the latter please do not make it sound like the former. TIA.

51 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Trac has the power/upperhand

He'll get to wherever he wants.

Can't say I really blame him atm.

How do you figure that? If we want him gone, maybe, but he has a large contract with us. We hold the power.

5 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

How do you figure that? If we want him gone, maybe, but he has a large contract with us. We hold the power.

I dare say that was the way. Premium players have shown a great tenacity and scoring rate in the ability to drive their destiny and get to their preferred destination. Just an observation

2 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Petracca's actions on Friday night were a plea to other clubs to "come and get me" from this mess.

With the whole footy world to view on a Friday night selfish behaviour from a player that wants out.

The club knew what they were trading out in the off season to Essendon.

They have probably made a deal with Christian to play 1 more year until a suitable trade can be found to provide us with a way back into top 10 draft territory.

Kozzie might have the same arrangement also.

This is part of Lewis' comment last night:

“Because I think at end you’ve got him, who’s clearly disappointed, it means a lot to him, he’s a competitor, he likes to win. And then you’ve got Clayton Oliver — who is also competitive — effectively joking with opposition players at the end of the game.”

Is that to be interpreted as Oliver is on his way to Geelong?

Which reaction do you prefer after the third thrashing in a row: Petracca who was among out best wearing his heart on his sleeve or Oliver laughing with the opp.?

3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

This is part of Lewis' comment last night:

“Because I think at end you’ve got him, who’s clearly disappointed, it means a lot to him, he’s a competitor, he likes to win. And then you’ve got Clayton Oliver — who is also competitive — effectively joking with opposition players at the end of the game.”

Is that to be interpreted as Oliver is on his way to Geelong?

Which reaction do you prefer after the third thrashing in a row: Petracca who was among out best wearing his heart on his sleeve or Oliver laughing with the opp.?

Reckon both are pretty ordinary. Oliver looks like he's just going through the motions, Petracca looks like he's genuinely miserable to be playing here. Wonder what the young players are thinking seeing a senior player carry on like that.

Good lord, it's so bad the media are interpreting body language now

Trac was upset after a loss, Clarry was joking. Reminds me of the 'Watts was smiling after the loss' threads.

Can we get a win so this nonsense stops please!?

16 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

This is part of Lewis' comment last night:

“Because I think at end you’ve got him, who’s clearly disappointed, it means a lot to him, he’s a competitor, he likes to win. And then you’ve got Clayton Oliver — who is also competitive — effectively joking with opposition players at the end of the game.”

Is that to be interpreted as Oliver is on his way to Geelong?

Which reaction do you prefer after the third thrashing in a row: Petracca who was among out best wearing his heart on his sleeve or Oliver laughing with the opp.?

This is popping into multiple sports these days.
Players seemingly have more comradery these days and have a joke after a game (apart from Mac Andrew aha), doesnt always sit well with older players or fans.

1 minute ago, roy11 said:

This is popping into multiple sports these days.
Players seemingly have more comradery these days and have a joke after a game (apart from Mac Andrew aha), doesnt always sit well with older players or fans.

Personally I couldn't care less if they have a sherbet or six after a game and go out dancing together..

But, get off the field and out of the jumper first please .

42 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

This is part of Lewis' comment last night:

“Because I think at end you’ve got him, who’s clearly disappointed, it means a lot to him, he’s a competitor, he likes to win. And then you’ve got Clayton Oliver — who is also competitive — effectively joking with opposition players at the end of the game.”

Is that to be interpreted as Oliver is on his way to Geelong?

Which reaction do you prefer after the third thrashing in a row: Petracca who was among out best wearing his heart on his sleeve or Oliver laughing with the opp.?

Both of them couldn’t get over to Maynard last time we played them for some japing and smiling alongside May

Unforgivable

59 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Are these comments based on facts/inside info or pure speculation.

If the latter please do not make it sound like the former. TIA.

Good luck getting pick 10

Oliver and brand have less value now than last year

3 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Both of them couldn’t get over to Maynard last time we played them for some japing and smiling alongside May

Unforgivable

I agree! I was disgusted that all three went and joked with Maynard.

3 minutes ago, Kent said:

Good luck getting pick 10

Oliver and brand have less value now than last year

Pick 10 wasn't my suggestion - it was a previous poster.

I hope they both stay.

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Trac has the power/upperhand

He'll get to wherever he wants.

Can't say I really blame him atm.

Does he? Surely the club has the power, since he signed a lengthy contract with us. Otherwise, he would already be gone. Add to this that he has an inexperienced player agent when it comes to contracts. Yes I know she could get registration by October but my understanding her experience is more with corporate contracts and brand building, rather than negotiating with clubs.

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

I dare say that was the way. Premium players have shown a great tenacity and scoring rate in the ability to drive their destiny and get to their preferred destination. Just an observation

Tracc did not show any tenacity last trading period, and I think it made him look less appealing to other clubs.

7 minutes ago, Flowergirl said:

Does he? Surely the club has the power, since he signed a lengthy contract with us. Otherwise, he would already be gone. Add to this that he has an inexperienced player agent when it comes to contracts. Yes I know she could get registration by October but my understanding her experience is more with corporate contracts and brand building, rather than negotiating with clubs.

Oh boy, mixing family with business most of the time doesn't work out.

His brother is also an agent, isn't he?

Just now, ElDiablo14 said:

Oh boy, mixing family with business most of the time doesn't work out.

His brother is also an agent, isn't he?

At the agency he just left.

On 05/04/2025 at 08:50, Rhino said:

Neal Bullen a huge loss to the Demons Best link player Worked so hard defensively and was the best clubman

Brown Dog for mine.

Still plenty of work ahead to cement a regular spot and may be in and out a few times. But i'd have him straight in replacing Nibbler as his apprentice.

Not saying he would automatically be up to Nibbler's standards but he might make a decent fist of it.

Loved his second half against the Cats on Friday.

Worth giving him a trial run for a block of games.

WTF is this?

https://x.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1909570252364825007?t=5ulkIWxCYdINUvKA6eEOWw&s=19

1 minute ago, Clintosaurus said:

WTF is this?

https://x.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1909570252364825007?t=5ulkIWxCYdINUvKA6eEOWw&s=19

It’s a hyperlink to a Herald Sun article.

Fix the root cause.

Most players like playing at successfull (or those they believe are heading for success) footy clubs.

Fix the root cause.

1 hour ago, Clintosaurus said:

WTF is this?

https://x.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1909570252364825007?t=5ulkIWxCYdINUvKA6eEOWw&s=19

Great, I'm now firmly in the camp of trading both these guys but Oliver most importantly. I'd take a highish first round pick and they pay the bulk of his salary. We need the picks and we just don't need the attention. I'd want a top 10 pick for Petracca and all his salary. You can want more but the reality is these guys are nearing 30, one comes with significant baggage and the other likely doesn't want to do the hard work required to lift this club back to the top. Pickett I say he has to stay at least one more year and then we'll talk. Get 2 more highish picks into taylor's hands, a new coach and a assistants and a strong CEO and board and I'm of the belief this list will flourish. Get a new coach in the mould of Kent Kingsley. I just can't imagine he would tolerate the rubbish we've put up with. I love love but listening to my coach talk this dribble must make the Harvey Langford's of the team think WTF!

The biggest issues with Oliver are due to his lack of pace.

As a result, his defensive game has declined. He is now averaging 4.0 tackles per game and 22 pressure acts, which is 2 fewer tackles and 5 fewer pressure acts per game. (The tackling stats may be partly due to his hand injury.)

Offensively, his possessions are back near to his 2021-2023 peak this season, but metres gained is 315 versus 423-453 in those seasons. He has never been a great kick, but he was getting a lot more penetration 2 years ago.

This season he has a Wheelo Player rating of 10.43, which is 149 in the AFL. If we can get off his contract without paying any salary, I would be in favour of a trade.

2 hours ago, Clintosaurus said:

WTF is this?

https://x.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1909570252364825007?t=5ulkIWxCYdINUvKA6eEOWw&s=19

If true, we can only hope that Oliver plays well enough to get some decent trade value.

Edited April 8Apr 8 by GS_1905