1 hour ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

This is how Max wants it, he feels he can grind the other ruck down by playing 85%+ time on ground and running all day. That’s why they couldn’t get Grundy to work as Max wouldn't give up tog and Grundy isn’t a permanent forward.

Personally I think Max should’ve been told to make it work..

At last a sane view of the situation More Tail wagging dog

I'm really looking forward to Goodwin dropping our best performed defender (McDonald) this week to bring in Lever who can't defend to save his life.

With May turning in a career worst effort last week, and Bowey and Salem incapable of stopping any half decent small forward, fun times surely await.

4 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

If Fritsch isn't dropped it tells you everything about Goodwin and being too close to the players. Selection integrity has always been a failing for Goodwin. Its one of the reasons Jordon and Bedford left.

Our standards have dropped alarmingly and someone needs to pay.

Agreed his form hasn't been ideal, but even last week he could have kicked a couple of goals, still had a decent amount of score involvements etc.

Not sure a spell in the 2s will get him to drastically change the way he plays the game, as frustrating as that may be for some.

He'd go down to Casey kick a bag and then come back the same player.

3 minutes ago, poita said:

I'm really looking forward to Goodwin dropping our best performed defender (McDonald) this week to bring in Lever who can't defend to save his life.

With May turning in a career worst effort last week, and Bowey and Salem incapable of stopping any half decent small forward, fun times surely await.

McVee a big out for this reason, hopefully Miers/Stengle dont have a field day.

25 minutes ago, Kent said:

At last a sane view of the situation More Tail wagging dog

If that is true re max and Grundy then that is an indictment on max

Not team first

21 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Agreed his form hasn't been ideal, but even last week he could have kicked a couple of goals, still had a decent amount of score involvements etc.

Not sure a spell in the 2s will get him to drastically change the way he plays the game, as frustrating as that may be for some.

He'd go down to Casey kick a bag and then come back the same player.

I doubt that

If he doesn't get the message to work harder and provide defensive pressure then he can stay there as far as I am concerned. We are playing one down with him.

1 minute ago, Superunknown said:

If that is true re max and Grundy then that is an indictment on max

Not team first

You know its true.

Max was never going to play second fiddle and stay in the fwd line

We always knew Grundy couldnt kick goals (or mark)

As good as Max is - and I love him - its very arguable he has been a detriment to our side of late as the game plan has been built around him and opp cubs have workd it it. IN addition our players always bomb it to Max as an outlet.

Chris Scott first worked it out and I fully expect Max to be nullified this week as they physically target him, jump all over him, smash the ball 3-5m where the Geelong players will rove to it and rebound

Bookmark it

FB: Petty May Adams

HB: Salem T Mc Bowey

C: Langdon Rivers Billings

HF: Chandler Turner Tracc

FF: Pickett JVR Fritsch

Foll: Gawn Oliver Langford

Int: Windsor, Sharp, Henderson, Viney

S: Sparrow

Out: Howes, Melk, Lindsay, AJ

In: Adams, Turner, Pickett, Windsor

4 talls down back isn’t ideal, nor do I think Jed is truly ready, but we need someone who’s willing to defend and can’t keep picking Howes.

Kozzie and Windsor in, Lever still a test. Lindsay will be given at least one, if not two weeks to recover.

Committed to new game plan, largely backing in the players to respond.

At the end of the presser when asked about Fritsch he hinted that some senior players may be dropped in the coming weeks if they don't find form.

2 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Imagine the happy clappers - who have been very very quiet - coming out of the woodwork if we win.

You know who you are

The thing is - and this is what I don't get - most of the henny penny hand wringers are also over the top happy clappers when we are going well.

They just patiently wait for the first sign of trouble so they can revert back to the extreme negativity that they are more comfortable with, then criticise the "apologists" who choose to take a more rational/balanced view rather than flip-flopping from extreme to extreme.

They know who they are too.

Edited yesterday at 01:281 day by JTR

I'm hoping for the following changes:

Ins: Pickett, Windsor, Lever, Spargo & Turner

Outs: Lindsay, Fritsch, Johnson, Billings & Howes

B: Bowey May Salem

HB: Windsor Petty Lever

C: Langdon Oliver Sharp

HF: Henderson JVR Chandler

F: Langford Turner Petracca

R: Gawn Rivers Pickett

Int: McDonald Spargo Viney Sparrow

Sub: Melksham

3 hours ago, jnrmac said:

If Fritsch isn't dropped it tells you everything about Goodwin and being too close to the players. Selection integrity has always been a failing for Goodwin. Its one of the reasons Jordon and Bedford left.

Our standards have dropped alarmingly and someone needs to pay.

Fritta will kick 5 this week

Well Goody spoke openly at his presser today about the strong review and needing a response. Also that players will be sent to Casey etc.

This is fairly unusual for him to be so open.

If there is no response, it will be telling

*I added this to the Goody thread but thought it more relevant here

1 hour ago, zoe1617 said:

Fritta will kick 5 this week

5 points

13 hours ago, bing181 said:

Laurie’s an interesting one. Wraps on him as a junior were that he had excellent disposal. Perhaps one of those role-players we need. Fewer disposals against less turnovers?

yup, my thoughts exactly. same as Spargo. if 80% of our team use the ball better then accumulation wont be an issue

1 hour ago, zoe1617 said:

Fritta will kick 5 this week

Don't like your odds. He's only done it twice since the 21 GF.

But its more the lack of defensive pressure and inability to get the ball that sees him woefully out of form. In a system based game its cancerous if one player cant tackle or play a defensive role.

I hope you're right but if Goodwin doesn't drop him it sends a crud signal to everyone else. Selection integrity out the window yet again

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Well Goody spoke openly at his presser today about the strong review and needing a response. Also that players will be sent to Casey etc.

This is fairly unusual for him to be so open.

If there is no response, it will be telling

*I added this to the Goody thread but thought it more relevant here

Words are meaningless at this point

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Well Goody spoke openly at his presser today about the strong review and needing a response. Also that players will be sent to Casey etc.

This is fairly unusual for him to be so open.

If there is no response, it will be telling

*I added this to the Goody thread but thought it more relevant here

The players who have been sent to Casey so far were Harvey Langford after coming on in his first game as a sub and Daniel Turner who came in for one game against North where he wasn't even that bad.

I'd be shocked if any of our stalwarts got dropped to Casey. Far more likely to be the likes of Sharp, Howes and Johnson.

2 hours ago, zoe1617 said:

Fritta will kick 5 this week

Just not in the afl

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

Well Goody spoke openly at his presser today about the strong review and needing a response. Also that players will be sent to Casey etc.

This is fairly unusual for him to be so open.

If there is no response, it will be telling

*I added this to the Goody thread but thought it more relevant here

Yes it continues the trend this season with Goody morphing into the Reverend.

Maybe it's because his social life has settled (married again off-season) but he does seem so much more relaxed with the media questions this season and so much more willing to expand on things than previously. And that's even in the face of losses. Imagine if Bevo was 0-3, do you think he'd be so forthcoming!

Personally I'd love him to talk openly about our new run-and-gun game plan and whether it was what Hawthorn were doing at the end of last year that forced the change or was it our own players requesting to be allowed to move it quickly. But I get that all clubs are still a little wary of specifically explaining what they do - even though other clubs know what's going on anyway.

But like everyone, I will be really interested to see if we can move it quickly through the middle down at Geelong or whether they will bash that confidence out of us or whether Tom Stewart and Lawson Humphries keep intercepting our errant kicks forward to the degree that we lose all our confidence again.

But certainly I think it's fair to say after that presser, that our grunt and grind at centre clearances will be on show.

Melksham and Billings would be at the very top of my outs list.

Teams are waltzing past us. Too many players aren't going to another gear when it comes time to defend - this has to change. And for lots of players it can change. Billings and Melksham, however, don't have other gears.

48 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

The players who have been sent to Casey so far were Harvey Langford after coming on in his first game as a sub and Daniel Turner who came in for one game against North where he wasn't even that bad.

I'd be shocked if any of our stalwarts got dropped to Casey. Far more likely to be the likes of Sharp, Howes and Johnson.

yep I agree. Can't see any regulars getting dropped

Why do I get to Wednesday and start thinking we’ll win our next game?

Deelusional or maybe not?

When was the last time Lever, May and Salem played cracker games as a backline? Especially Salem...

23 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Why do I get to Wednesday and start thinking we’ll win our next game?

Deelusional or maybe not?

Well, I'm as mad as your good self because I have a funny feeling, we will knock the puddy cats off on Friday night.