Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted

I been watching Goody as a tracker for a while now. Early in the 2024 season he was much more aloof and was regularly and openly frustrated with the team. As I Ieft track watching in the middle of the year, so I cannot say how he was later on. The seasons before, he was very much in the positive feedback mode, with a softly softly approach to them. I believe he was altering his style so as to see if that would propel us to success. He was conscious of his style change.

I hope the review has more to offer than Goody's style. Any Fred or Jane would have been able to see that Goody consciously changed his style. I expect he will change again, not because he has been instructed to do so, but because he will continue to find a way to get the best out of himself and the team.

Smoke and mirrors!

  • Like 14
  • Thanks 2

Posted
3 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Is this straight out of the Dan Andrews media management playbook?

Friday before a long weekend... CEO resign, Another unmentionable story drops... Dump the review findings...

Create [censored] storm soup... then head to the beach house until Wednesday... 

Bravo 👏 

Are you able to somehow point me in the direction of the unmentionable story please?

  • Like 1

Posted

To summarise 2024: 

Gus medical retirement 

Trac injury ends season halfway 

Pies beat Dees twice 

team finished 14th 

Trac wants out 

Clarry wants out 

media negative pile on to the Dees

President resigns 

CEO resigns 

JS29 Four year ban 

did I leave anything out? 

I know there’s some good news lightly sprinkled through the year but it’s a damaging summary 

  • Like 2
  • Sad 4
Posted
11 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Is this straight out of the Dan Andrews media management playbook?

Friday before a long weekend... CEO resign, Another unmentionable story drops... Dump the review findings...

Create [censored] storm soup... then head to the beach house until Wednesday... 

Bravo 👏 

Too cynical by far mate! Like most supporters we are keen to hear asap what the two Reviews have found. They are hardly leaks as Steve Smith is openly referring to them 

  • Like 2
Posted
10 hours ago, DubDee said:

Lighten up Goody! It’s only footy

WTF are they on about?

He should be intense and serious. Will he be ordered to do some yoga?

Its an intense job and industry

*pretty sure i’m overreacting but it’s been a long night of halloween shenanigans 

Plainly some senior players believe that Goodwin’s increased anxiety and seriousness have not assisted him, or the playing group. IMV that’s entirely understandable in the light of the year we’ve just experienced. I think that all of these developments playing out now, rather than in Feb/ March give us every prospect of a much better year 

  • Like 6

Posted (edited)
10 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Too cynical by far mate! Like most supporters we are keen to hear asap what the two Reviews have found. They are hardly leaks as Steve Smith is openly referring to them 

Also, I think the timing has been openly foreshadowed for some time? I'm sure all those interested in it have prepared to make time to dig into it during their longweekending.

Edited by Timothy Reddan-A'Blew
  • Like 2
Posted

I'll hazard a guess and say that the off-field cultural issues with the players frustrated Goody, and he felt that he needed to be harder on the players. Rather than Goody being the bad cop, the review concluded that Richardson failed in his responsibility in handling the off-field issues.

If Richardson needs a mentor, then he needs to be replaced.

  • Like 6

Posted
6 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Are we going to be allowed to discuss the results of the review when they come out?

Well, that will be up to all of us I suspect.

If we can discuss it like rationale, mature adults that understand nuance then we should be fine.

  • Like 6
  • Haha 6
  • Clap 5
Posted
1 minute ago, binman said:

Well, that will be up to all of us I suspect.

If we can discuss it like rationale, mature adults that understand nuance then we should be fine.

Which probably means we will end up being banned from discussing given our past performances.

  • Like 3
  • Sad 1

Posted
28 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I'll hazard a guess and say that the off-field cultural issues with the players frustrated Goody, and he felt that he needed to be harder on the players. Rather than Goody being the bad cop, the review concluded that Richardson failed in his responsibility in handling the off-field issues.

If Richardson needs a mentor, then he needs to be replaced.

All smart business operators, even successful CEOs and multi millianaire/billionaires have mentors.

Needing a mentor does not mean you can’t do your job.

Not saying Rich is the right man for the job, just saying that this isn’t the reason someone should be replaced.

  • Like 9
Posted
12 hours ago, Dingo said:

I have thought about it : Goody needs help from whom, to do what?

Cheers

No indication re needing help whatsoever.. was told to lighten up and to not show the pressure so much in interaction with players and he has full backing of playing group. They mean he lmk they want him to have full support of the club not that he needs more support.

  • Like 4
Posted
21 minutes ago, binman said:

Well, that will be up to all of us I suspect.

If we can discuss it like rationale, mature adults that understand nuance then we should be fine.

So that’s a no

  • Haha 2
  • Clap 1
Posted
1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

To summarise 2024: 

Gus medical retirement 

Trac injury ends season halfway 

Pies beat Dees twice 

team finished 14th 

Trac wants out 

Clarry wants out 

media negative pile on to the Dees

President resigns 

CEO resigns 

JS29 Four year ban 

did I leave anything out? 

I know there’s some good news lightly sprinkled through the year but it’s a damaging summary 

It’s a lot and it’s a sign of how resilient Perf was given we took it right up to 3 of the final 4 left in the race for the flag and didn’t play the 4th while they were rampant.. 11 wins and best player out half year inc when we took it to their 3 teams.. picks 5/9 and a heap of young resent to improve this year.. 

The list above is also largely media driven ie Trac/Clary — it was awful but it’s over and it’ll now all depend on how we go this pre season we need some luck and to get 90% doing 90% of it but if we do I’m confident both will be happy and content again.. but worst case we have a new young core to build round and if we lose them we lose them and get more young talent in without needing to bottom out. But I’d punt on both being dees for life right now. Trac clearly still playing games sending sublimation to club to express his frustration but once he hits the park I think it then turns to being his turn to act and put best foot fwd.

Bring on draft and 2025.. can’t wait to see Windsor with another pre season, Clarry with a full pre season & May/Lever returning to their best as well. The could fuel us to a flag or tear us apart but it’ll largely come down to that 90% doing 90% of the PS.

 

  • Like 7
  • Thanks 1
  • Love 2

Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Is this straight out of the Dan Andrews media management playbook?

Friday before a long weekend... CEO resign, Another unmentionable story drops... Dump the review findings...

Create [censored] storm soup... then head to the beach house until Wednesday... 

Bravo 👏 

Leaving the politics out of it, dumping and trying to bury all this stuff at once is the best thing to do after a year of bad headlines.

The alternative is that each story receives maximum coverage and drags on for as long as possible .. and then just when the air clears, another stink bomb drops. 

Much prefer to get it all over and done with at once, rather than trickling out one at a time and prolonging the agony.  

Edited by Grapeviney
  • Like 22
  • Clap 1
Posted
59 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Too cynical by far mate! Like most supporters we are keen to hear asap what the two Reviews have found. They are hardly leaks as Steve Smith is openly referring to them 

It’s not leaks it’s just basic PR and getting our in front of it before the full thing drops it’s just how this stuff is done to exert some small form of control of narrative but after hearing [censored] Korn and Dumby Edmund this morning it’s just gonna be more doom gloom and nose rubbing by footy media until R1 so I hope to avoid much of it  

  • Like 7
Posted
9 hours ago, kev martin said:

I been watching Goody as a tracker for a while now. Early in the 2024 season he was much more aloof and was regularly and openly frustrated with the team. As I Ieft track watching in the middle of the year, so I cannot say how he was later on. The seasons before, he was very much in the positive feedback mode, with a softly softly approach to them. I believe he was altering his style so as to see if that would propel us to success. He was conscious of his style change.

I hope the review has more to offer than Goody's style. Any Fred or Jane would have been able to see that Goody consciously changed his style. I expect he will change again, not because he has been instructed to do so, but because he will continue to find a way to get the best out of himself and the team.

Smoke and mirrors!

 

face-with-monocle.png

  • Haha 7
  • Clap 1

Posted
17 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Yes… seeing part of his job is mentoring the coach!

It’s merely an extra set of ideas peeps.. that’s it.. mentor is media word not clubs 

  • Like 1
Posted
17 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

All smart business operators, even successful CEOs and multi millianaire/billionaires have mentors.

Needing a mentor does not mean you can’t do your job.

Not saying Rich is the right man for the job, just saying that this isn’t the reason someone should be replaced.

It depends on whether Richardson's mentor is a paid by the MFC. The club doesn't have unlimited wealth, and it gets to the point where paid officials need to do their job, or the club needs to find someone who can.

  • Clap 1

Posted
10 hours ago, picket fence said:

LIGHTEN UP??? LIGHTEN UP FFS WE JUST FINISHED 14TH !!

Players to a degree feared Smith and Barrasi, STUFF this softly softly lighten up stuff

If anything he needs to go HARDER !!!

If im correct with my understanding of "lighten up" cheezus!

A classic summary of modern coaching philosophy - as you say, yell at them more. That'll do the trick.

  • Like 3
Posted

“I love my job, I’m passionate about footy, that’s all I’m really focused on now.”

I would have preferred Tracc to have said after footy, "and the Melbourne Football club".

But he didn't. Not reading anything into it, but it would have stopped any speculation.

  • Like 6
  • Thanks 2

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #15 Ed Langdon

    The Demon running machine came back with a vengeance after a leaner than usual year in 2023.  Date of Birth: 1 February 1996 Height: 182cm Games MFC 2024: 22 Career Total: 179 Goals MFC 2024: 9 Career Total: 76 Brownlow Medal Votes: 5 Melbourne Football Club: 5th Best & Fairest: 352 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 8
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!

×
×
  • Create New...