Results of Club Reviews

[kev martin 9,809]

I been watching Goody as a tracker for a while now. Early in the 2024 season he was much more aloof and was regularly and openly frustrated with the team. As I Ieft track watching in the middle of the year, so I cannot say how he was later on. The seasons before, he was very much in the positive feedback mode, with a softly softly approach to them. I believe he was altering his style so as to see if that would propel us to success. He was conscious of his style change.

I hope the review has more to offer than Goody's style. Any Fred or Jane would have been able to see that Goody consciously changed his style. I expect he will change again, not because he has been instructed to do so, but because he will continue to find a way to get the best out of himself and the team.

Smoke and mirrors!

[deejammin' 2,370]

3 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Is this straight out of the Dan Andrews media management playbook?

Friday before a long weekend... CEO resign, Another unmentionable story drops... Dump the review findings...

Create [censored] storm soup... then head to the beach house until Wednesday... 

Bravo 👏 

Are you able to somehow point me in the direction of the unmentionable story please?

[spirit of norm smith 16,296]

To summarise 2024: 

Gus medical retirement 

Trac injury ends season halfway 

Pies beat Dees twice 

team finished 14th 

Trac wants out 

Clarry wants out 

media negative pile on to the Dees

President resigns 

CEO resigns 

JS29 Four year ban 

did I leave anything out? 

I know there’s some good news lightly sprinkled through the year but it’s a damaging summary 

[Farmer 875]

11 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Is this straight out of the Dan Andrews media management playbook?

Friday before a long weekend... CEO resign, Another unmentionable story drops... Dump the review findings...

Create [censored] storm soup... then head to the beach house until Wednesday... 

Bravo 👏 

Too cynical by far mate! Like most supporters we are keen to hear asap what the two Reviews have found. They are hardly leaks as Steve Smith is openly referring to them 

[Farmer 875]

10 hours ago, DubDee said:

Lighten up Goody! It’s only footy

WTF are they on about?

He should be intense and serious. Will he be ordered to do some yoga?

Its an intense job and industry

*pretty sure i’m overreacting but it’s been a long night of halloween shenanigans 

Plainly some senior players believe that Goodwin’s increased anxiety and seriousness have not assisted him, or the playing group. IMV that’s entirely understandable in the light of the year we’ve just experienced. I think that all of these developments playing out now, rather than in Feb/ March give us every prospect of a much better year 

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,074]

10 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Too cynical by far mate! Like most supporters we are keen to hear asap what the two Reviews have found. They are hardly leaks as Steve Smith is openly referring to them 

Also, I think the timing has been openly foreshadowed for some time? I'm sure all those interested in it have prepared to make time to dig into it during their longweekending.

Edited October 31 by Timothy Reddan-A'Blew

[mo64 5,853]

I'll hazard a guess and say that the off-field cultural issues with the players frustrated Goody, and he felt that he needed to be harder on the players. Rather than Goody being the bad cop, the review concluded that Richardson failed in his responsibility in handling the off-field issues.

If Richardson needs a mentor, then he needs to be replaced.

[KozzyCan 764]

Are we going to be allowed to discuss the results of the review when they come out?

[binman 42,684]

6 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Are we going to be allowed to discuss the results of the review when they come out?

Well, that will be up to all of us I suspect.

If we can discuss it like rationale, mature adults that understand nuance then we should be fine.

[Neil Crompton 5,517]

1 minute ago, binman said:

Well, that will be up to all of us I suspect.

If we can discuss it like rationale, mature adults that understand nuance then we should be fine.

Which probably means we will end up being banned from discussing given our past performances.

[Fanatique Demon 2,642]

22 minutes ago, mo64 said:

If Richardson needs a mentor, then he needs to be replaced.

Yes… seeing part of his job is mentoring the coach!

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,671]

28 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I'll hazard a guess and say that the off-field cultural issues with the players frustrated Goody, and he felt that he needed to be harder on the players. Rather than Goody being the bad cop, the review concluded that Richardson failed in his responsibility in handling the off-field issues.

If Richardson needs a mentor, then he needs to be replaced.

All smart business operators, even successful CEOs and multi millianaire/billionaires have mentors.

Needing a mentor does not mean you can’t do your job.

Not saying Rich is the right man for the job, just saying that this isn’t the reason someone should be replaced.

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

12 hours ago, Dingo said:

I have thought about it : Goody needs help from whom, to do what?

Cheers

No indication re needing help whatsoever.. was told to lighten up and to not show the pressure so much in interaction with players and he has full backing of playing group. They mean he lmk they want him to have full support of the club not that he needs more support.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,671]

21 minutes ago, binman said:

Well, that will be up to all of us I suspect.

If we can discuss it like rationale, mature adults that understand nuance then we should be fine.

So that’s a no

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

To summarise 2024: 

Gus medical retirement 

Trac injury ends season halfway 

Pies beat Dees twice 

team finished 14th 

Trac wants out 

Clarry wants out 

media negative pile on to the Dees

President resigns 

CEO resigns 

JS29 Four year ban 

did I leave anything out? 

I know there’s some good news lightly sprinkled through the year but it’s a damaging summary 

It’s a lot and it’s a sign of how resilient Perf was given we took it right up to 3 of the final 4 left in the race for the flag and didn’t play the 4th while they were rampant.. 11 wins and best player out half year inc when we took it to their 3 teams.. picks 5/9 and a heap of young resent to improve this year.. 

The list above is also largely media driven ie Trac/Clary — it was awful but it’s over and it’ll now all depend on how we go this pre season we need some luck and to get 90% doing 90% of it but if we do I’m confident both will be happy and content again.. but worst case we have a new young core to build round and if we lose them we lose them and get more young talent in without needing to bottom out. But I’d punt on both being dees for life right now. Trac clearly still playing games sending sublimation to club to express his frustration but once he hits the park I think it then turns to being his turn to act and put best foot fwd.

Bring on draft and 2025.. can’t wait to see Windsor with another pre season, Clarry with a full pre season & May/Lever returning to their best as well. The could fuel us to a flag or tear us apart but it’ll largely come down to that 90% doing 90% of the PS.

 

[Grapeviney 9,712]

12 hours ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Is this straight out of the Dan Andrews media management playbook?

Friday before a long weekend... CEO resign, Another unmentionable story drops... Dump the review findings...

Create [censored] storm soup... then head to the beach house until Wednesday... 

Bravo 👏 

Leaving the politics out of it, dumping and trying to bury all this stuff at once is the best thing to do after a year of bad headlines.

The alternative is that each story receives maximum coverage and drags on for as long as possible .. and then just when the air clears, another stink bomb drops. 

Much prefer to get it all over and done with at once, rather than trickling out one at a time and prolonging the agony.  

Edited October 31 by Grapeviney

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

59 minutes ago, Farmer said:

Too cynical by far mate! Like most supporters we are keen to hear asap what the two Reviews have found. They are hardly leaks as Steve Smith is openly referring to them 

It’s not leaks it’s just basic PR and getting our in front of it before the full thing drops it’s just how this stuff is done to exert some small form of control of narrative but after hearing [censored] Korn and Dumby Edmund this morning it’s just gonna be more doom gloom and nose rubbing by footy media until R1 so I hope to avoid much of it  

[beelzebub 23,313]

9 hours ago, kev martin said:

I been watching Goody as a tracker for a while now. Early in the 2024 season he was much more aloof and was regularly and openly frustrated with the team. As I Ieft track watching in the middle of the year, so I cannot say how he was later on. The seasons before, he was very much in the positive feedback mode, with a softly softly approach to them. I believe he was altering his style so as to see if that would propel us to success. He was conscious of his style change.

I hope the review has more to offer than Goody's style. Any Fred or Jane would have been able to see that Goody consciously changed his style. I expect he will change again, not because he has been instructed to do so, but because he will continue to find a way to get the best out of himself and the team.

Smoke and mirrors!

 

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,617]

17 minutes ago, Fanatique Demon said:

Yes… seeing part of his job is mentoring the coach!

It’s merely an extra set of ideas peeps.. that’s it.. mentor is media word not clubs 

[mo64 5,853]

17 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

All smart business operators, even successful CEOs and multi millianaire/billionaires have mentors.

Needing a mentor does not mean you can’t do your job.

Not saying Rich is the right man for the job, just saying that this isn’t the reason someone should be replaced.

It depends on whether Richardson's mentor is a paid by the MFC. The club doesn't have unlimited wealth, and it gets to the point where paid officials need to do their job, or the club needs to find someone who can.

[chook fowler 19,446]

12 hours ago, Dingo said:

I have thought about it : Goody needs help from whom, to do what?

Cheers

to be a good boy

[binman 42,684]

1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

So that’s a no

If I was a betting man...........

.

[Ollie fan 3,370]

10 hours ago, picket fence said:

LIGHTEN UP??? LIGHTEN UP FFS WE JUST FINISHED 14TH !!

Players to a degree feared Smith and Barrasi, STUFF this softly softly lighten up stuff

If anything he needs to go HARDER !!!

If im correct with my understanding of "lighten up" cheezus!

A classic summary of modern coaching philosophy - as you say, yell at them more. That'll do the trick.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,671]

20 minutes ago, binman said:

If I was a betting man...........

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Have heard you are...

[Dante 2,739]

“I love my job, I’m passionate about footy, that’s all I’m really focused on now.”

I would have preferred Tracc to have said after footy, "and the Melbourne Football club".

But he didn't. Not reading anything into it, but it would have stopped any speculation.