Draft night - How it may work out?

[Adam The God 30,126]

38 minutes ago, Where Demons Dare said:

Depending how our cards fall, I see us taking one of Smith, Langford or Draper with pick 5. If we pick Langford I don't see the need to go for Smillie with pick 9 as they are like for like players. I also don't see St.kilda taking Smillie either, as they got Phillipou last year who is a 194cm mid, which many on here have predicted St.kilda will select. 

Reid I'm not sold on with pick 9. I get Toumpas vibes from him... skilful player yes, but doesn't like the contest.

Richmond and St.Kilda will probably take one of Armstrong or Tauru with their selection before our next one so that leaves us with Allen, Lindsay, Travaglia, Hotton or Trainor. My gut feel is we go with Trainor, who is an excellent key defender but will be watchful of as he has already had concussions recently. 

Either way we will get 2 fantastic players and will help us contending for years to come. 

No way we'll go with Trainor. Bookmark it. We just had a Gus experience with concussions.

[58er 6,388]

On 03/11/2024 at 06:11, The Jackson FIX said:

Many here seem to think Kolt was a huge tick last year… he’s still a wait and see for me.  Windsor ENORMOUS tick, yes, but I didn’t see anything from Kolt which suggested he’s a guaranteed star. 

I think when you get a GUN pick who seems to perhaps be even better than you hoped like the Duke it’s always harder to rate another player based on a low key first 10/15games.

What I do think is Melb were very pleased with the Kolt’s season as he improved as the year wore on. As he was 18 years for a long part of the year we should be positive about his start and believe that he will make great strides in 2025.

His room for upside is perhaps greater but let’s judge him separately not vs Caleb who yo be fair looks like an absolute superstar the way he adapted and showed his class and style. Purists that are comparing him to the late great Robbie Flower who is one of our top 10/15 greats are IMO not far wrong. So smooth and fast plus tougher than many opponents realise.

So much so I would like Goody to change Windsor to the centre from the start of the season to get the extra benefit of his direct and straight ahead style that could also net him a handy 15/20 goals for our total even in only his second year. 

Can’t wait for all our youngsters to improve and surprise the experts in our bounce back up the ladder. 

[kurtneverdied 238]

What's this whole attitude we can't draft 2 of the same type of players?
Langford and Smillie for example.
What height gives them is flexibilty to play anywhere on the ground if they don't turn out best in the midfield.
In juniours the best players play midfield and it's not until there last couple of seasons they may be moved forward or back as they join the best of the best of their age.
If there was a Pettracca clone we would draft him etc.
 

[4_Kent_Watts 869]

If we can somehow get Langford at our first Pick i won't complain who we get at our Second as there is going to be plenty of options. Would gladly take Smillie as well. My preference is 2 Mids. 

[DeeSpencer 25,451]

12 hours ago, kurtneverdied said:

What's this whole attitude we can't draft 2 of the same type of players?
Langford and Smillie for example.
What height gives them is flexibilty to play anywhere on the ground if they don't turn out best in the midfield.
In juniours the best players play midfield and it's not until there last couple of seasons they may be moved forward or back as they join the best of the best of their age.
If there was a Pettracca clone we would draft him etc.
 

We can, but I don’t think height alone makes a guy able to play anywhere.

I haven’t seen an aerial game from Smillie worthy of saying he’s a marking target /interceptor and I don’t think he runs like a flanker. To me he’s a fairly pure midfielder aside from filling in certain roles in case of emergency. Langford has a marking and more natural outside run game that I think translates better to versatility but the speed will limit that too.

The game has also sped up and spread out and smaller mids ripped us apart some times at stoppages and absolutely in space. We had to put Nibbler on ball to take away Daicos, Merrett etc.

I suspect if we draft Langford and go a second bigger mid it will be Travaglia or Bo Allan who are proven flankers and move like it.

[Mouseymoo 227]

Bouncing between here and Bigfooty I feel like, at least before Cal comes out with his phantom, these are THE outcomes for us at 5;

North pick Tauru and our options are; Langford/Smith or other. 

North take a mid and our options are; Tauru or Smith (Carlton and Adelaide into Draper and Langford) 

Lawlor/FOS/Draper will be gone. 

Edited Monday at 01:20 by Mouseymoo

[DeeSpencer 25,451]

3 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Bouncing between here and Bigfooty I feel like, at least before Cal comes out with his phantom, these are THE outcomes for us at 5;

North pick Tauru and our options are; Langford/Smith or other. 

North take a mid and our options are; Tauru or Smith (Carlton and Adelaide into Draper and Langford) 

Lawlor/FOS/Draper will be gone. 

What about the middle ground? North take Tauru. Carlton are in to Draper. Crows take Langford.

No one seems to be predicting FOS getting through to us? Is he a lock 2, 3 or 4 despite those teams all getting linked to other players?

[Roost it far 8,180]

On 05/11/2024 at 23:39, 58er said:

I think when you get a GUN pick who seems to perhaps be even better than you hoped like the Duke it’s always harder to rate another player based on a low key first 10/15games.

What I do think is Melb were very pleased with the Kolt’s season as he improved as the year wore on. As he was 18 years for a long part of the year we should be positive about his start and believe that he will make great strides in 2025.

His room for upside is perhaps greater but let’s judge him separately not vs Caleb who yo be fair looks like an absolute superstar the way he adapted and showed his class and style. Purists that are comparing him to the late great Robbie Flower who is one of our top 10/15 greats are IMO not far wrong. So smooth and fast plus tougher than many opponents realise.

So much so I would like Goody to change Windsor to the centre from the start of the season to get the extra benefit of his direct and straight ahead style that could also net him a handy 15/20 goals for our total even in only his second year. 

Can’t wait for all our youngsters to improve and surprise the experts in our bounce back up the ladder. 

Robbie Flower is number 1, there’s no mixing with 10/15 others. For pure class, skill and a player with no apparent weakness. 

[Mouseymoo 227]

31 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

What about the middle ground? North take Tauru. Carlton are in to Draper. Crows take Langford.

No one seems to be predicting FOS getting through to us? Is he a lock 2, 3 or 4 despite those teams all getting linked to other players?

General consensus amoungt the amateur draft gurus is FOS goes 1 - 4. Most likely Carlton because he's Walsh's cousin, if that means anything. Think there's a red herring out there that Carlton into Draper to force Adelaide to trade with North so North can take Tauru at 4 instead of "reaching" and get some steak knves - I thin k that scenario is a stretch though 

[Nascent 9,107]

Would love to know what North's intentions are.

[whatwhat say what 22,689]

8 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Would love to know what North's intentions are.

just don't let them be misunderstood...

[adonski 11,804]

21 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Would love to know what North's intentions are.

Take another S.A midfield and lose him after 12 months presumably

[Axis of Bob 11,681]

 

16 minutes ago, adonski said:

Take another S.A midfield and lose him after 12 months presumably

Draper and Horne-Francis are very different people with very different backgrounds. I don’t think equating the two is fair.

[binman 42,642]

38 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

just don't let them be misunderstood...

Oh lord....

[Demon Disciple 12,064]

3 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Robbie Flower is number 1, there’s no mixing with 10/15 others. For pure class, skill and a player with no apparent weakness. 

You forgot heart, Roost

[Mouseymoo 227]

I wonder if Richmond do 6 & 20/23/24 for North's pick 2.

Feel Richmond would love to pair up Lawlor and one of Smith/FOS and also we know North desperate af to split and 6 is prime to get Tauru and not be seen as reaching..

[old55 23,386]

3 hours ago, Mouseymoo said:

I wonder if Richmond do 6 & 20/23/24 for North's pick 2.

Feel Richmond would love to pair up Lawlor and one of Smith/FOS and also we know North desperate af to split and 6 is prime to get Tauru and not be seen as reaching..

I doubt it. If North take Tauru as many have suggested then Richmond will have access to one of the "top 5" open draft mids at 6.