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7 minutes ago, DubDee said:

I wonder what pick 28 plus F1 would get us?

Most clubs would imagine us staying around where we are or improving a little I would say. Losing ANB, issues with Trac and Clarry, May and Gawn getting on, and no-one of note traded in most likely.  So F1 might be seen as pick 5-10.

Given how good this draft is, could we nab pick 8-13 from Freo/GC?

Having pick 6 and ~10 would be huge in this draft

I'd be hoping we retain #28, too good a pick to throw away

 

Surely it wouldn't be for 18, which will blow out to 20+ after bids

12 minutes ago, adonski said:

I'd be hoping we retain #28, too good a pick to throw away

certainly wouldn’t consider throwing it away but if it gets us another top 10 pick it would be great

 

Agree super risky given the academy and father son picks.  The player trades should all happen first.   Likely we will wait to see how Freo negotiates other deals and what if any pick retains. Picks can be traded on an ongoing basis right through to live on draft night 


We’ve done this before and managed to get back into the first round 12 months later. It’s safe to say, the club thinks this is a good draft to sink their teeth into.

The way I read it, Fremantle happy to consider trade of whichever of 10 or 11 remains after Bolton trade. Or we jump in first, add a sweetener that helps get Bolton over the line.

1 hour ago, demoncat said:

And I don’t think trading a future first for pick 18 (early 20s after bids) is good business at all unless a player we really rate slips to that pick on the night 

If we finish up near the pointy end of the ladder and win a final or two and then you throw in Academy and F/S picks, trade compensation picks etc., that F1 could easily end up not far off pick 18.

 
14 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

The way I read it, Fremantle happy to consider trade of whichever of 10 or 11 remains after Bolton trade. Or we jump in first, add a sweetener that helps get Bolton over the line.

F1 and pick 28 for Pick 10? 

Giving us pick 5 + pick 10, plus the second rounder that we got from the Swans for Grundy. 
 

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

They have Picks 10, 11 & 18

 

I wonder if we might be interested in trading our P5 for P10 & P11. Freo offers their F1 and P18 for Bolton.


1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

F1 and pick 28 for Pick 10? 

Giving us pick 5 + pick 10, plus the second rounder that we got from the Swans for Grundy. 
 

Tiges would find it hard to knock back 11, 18 & 28, so could work. We’d hopefully start with an offer of f1 + the Grundy pick, but I’d fall back to 28 to get that deal done.

From the Age's trade article today:

"In other trade news, Melbourne are interested in securing one of Fremantle’s first-round picks to have an even stronger presence in this year’s draft, repeating a formula that worked well for them in their rebuild by securing two top-10 picks.

The Demons, who already hold pick five, could get their hands on the Dockers’ No.10 or 11, in exchange for a future first-round selection and other assets to give them two high picks in a deep draft.

The Dockers are open to the prospect, having put two of their three first-rounders on the table for contracted Richmond forward Shai Bolton. They are happy to trade picks 11 and 18 for Bolton, but refuse to hand over both 10 and 11."

From: https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/giants-weigh-up-a-play-for-jake-stringer-as-the-bombers-hold-firm-20241007-p5kgh6.html

With the potential bid of Kako inside top 10 there is a fair chance we could go after Essendons pick 9.

15 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

The way I read it, Fremantle happy to consider trade of whichever of 10 or 11 remains after Bolton trade. Or we jump in first, add a sweetener that helps get Bolton over the line.

With clubs scrambling for 1st rounders I think it's unlikely that Freo will trade all 3 of theirs away. I think we might get access to 10 or 11 at Freo if the Bolton trade fails or get access to it at Richmond if it succeeds.


4 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Based on what I've seen, surely Bolton isn't worth a 10 or 11 plus 18? He's flaky asf.

I'd have no hesitation giving 10 + 18 if I'm the Dokkahs

10 and 11 is too rich however

Edited by adonski

If we can manage pick 10 from Freo and ~20 from Brisbane it will be a good result for us.

There's always fierce competition for these pick swaps though.

22 minutes ago, SFebes said:

Based on what I've seen, surely Bolton isn't worth a 10 or 11 plus 18? He's flaky asf.

He is a very good player.  


Pick 10 is a reasonable swap for our F1 IMO. I project a finish between 11 and 4 next year which are picks 7-14 so okay with me if the List Management think that is where the value lies.

Pick 13 was IMO not great value on a trade/risk/return basis.

Doubling up on picks can have salary cap issues going forward assuming they are successful players. A nice problem to have but one to keep in the back of your mind especially if the media rights magic pudding stalls.

Hope we have a medium term plan to get Harley Reid assuming he goes slow on his contract re-sign (Unfortunately every other Melbourne club will be working  on the same thing)

20 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Pick 10 is a reasonable swap for our F1 IMO. I project a finish between 11 and 4 next year which are picks 7-14 so okay with me if the List Management think that is where the value lies.

 

If you think F1 is roughly Pick 10 next year, you would have to offer more to get pick 10 this year in what is seen as an outstanding draft.

~pick 7 2024 = pick 10 2025   at least

Otherwise other clubs will just keep their picks for this year

6 minutes ago, DubDee said:

If you think F1 is roughly Pick 10 next year, you would have to offer more to get pick 10 this year in what is seen as an outstanding draft.

~pick 7 2024 = pick 10 2025   at least

Otherwise other clubs will just keep their picks for this year

All that matters is how Freo see us. Future pick trading is a bet. Freo are betting against us.

 

We’ll be giving F1 and 28 to get pick 10 or 11 from Freo. If that happens I’d call it outstanding trading on our behalf. Clubs are crawling over each other to get high picks this year. 

Edited by Roost it far

So, we are rebuilding?

Might as well have let Trac, Koz and Oliver walk LOL 


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