On 06/09/2024 at 22:00, BDA said:

Her specialist area was facilities. On that she didn’t deliver and that’s the bottom line.

One thing that I’m gobsmacked about is the way some people on here make comments like this while they are completely oblivious to the process involved in the club securing a home base. That process has been extensively  covered in material issued by the club and also in media articles.

Essentially, the move to secure a site within the Caulfield Racetrack is a work in progress that is undergoing examination and consultation and the final decision is outside the hands of the MFC Board.

To suggest that the fact that Kate Roffey has yet to deliver this option or any other within a given timeframe and is therefore somehow a failure is risible and reflects a lot of the warped thinking that’s enveloped our club over the past months.

I find this very sad.

The best news this morning is Caro has dished the dirt on Collingwood and the huge bust-up between Wright and Kelly. Not all is happy at Pie land. So good to have a story that isn't about MFC. Where are Maclure, Morris and Warner when there is a carcass to feed on? I also expect the carrion to attack Bevo &  Hinkley after 2 finals floggings.

  On 06/09/2024 at 23:43, Spirit of the Demon said:

One thing that I’m gobsmacked about is the way some people on here make comments like this while they are completely oblivious to the process involved in the club securing a home base. That process has been extensively  covered in material issued by the club and also in media articles.

Essentially, the move to secure a site within the Caulfield Racetrack is a work in progress that is undergoing examination and consultation and the final decision is outside the hands of the MFC Board.

To suggest that the fact that Kate Roffey has yet to deliver this option or any other within a given timeframe and is therefore somehow a failure is risible and reflects a lot of the warped thinking that’s enveloped our club over the past months.

I find this very sad.

What’s risible is your gaslighting.

10 years and no home base. I hope the Caulfield project gets up but no one can say it’s not before time.

  On 06/09/2024 at 23:43, Spirit of the Demon said:

One thing that I’m gobsmacked about is the way some people on here make comments like this while they are completely oblivious to the process involved in the club securing a home base. That process has been extensively  covered in material issued by the club and also in media articles.

Essentially, the move to secure a site within the Caulfield Racetrack is a work in progress that is undergoing examination and consultation and the final decision is outside the hands of the MFC Board.

To suggest that the fact that Kate Roffey has yet to deliver this option or any other within a given timeframe and is therefore somehow a failure is risible and reflects a lot of the warped thinking that’s enveloped our club over the past months.

I find this very sad.

You can understand the frustration of supporters whose club has the worst facilities in the AFL, with having to wait at least 10-13 years from a Club Board who said it was a major aim of theirs, without a definite announcement that a new site has been approved, let alone have the project finished.

When the announcement comes, that will be great news for the club, but the frustration of the supporters is understandable.

There will be time to congratulate those responsible for the new facility, when it is closer to a reality.

  On 06/09/2024 at 23:59, Redleg said:

You can understand the frustration of supporters whose club has the worst facilities in the AFL, with having to wait at least 10-13 years from a Club Board who said it was a major aim of theirs, without a definite announcement that a new site has been approved, let alone have the project finished.

When the announcement comes, that will be great news for the club, but the frustration of the supporters is understandable.

There will be time to congratulate those responsible for the new facility, when it is closer to a reality.

As far back as I can remember the issue of a social club/home base has been constantly promised by club boards and administrations for fifty years, not just ten. But if we must, then why not call every one of them in that time frame failures including the previous two presidents as well as Peter Jackson and Gary Pert, the CEOs in that time frame. 

Roffey became President in 2021, the club won an AFL Premiership that year and an AFLW Premiership the following year. Yet, she leaves as a failure in the eyes of frustrated supporters because we have a planning system in this state that is infamous for red tape and delays.

Sheesh.

11 years after joining the board, we are still at the “Planning” stage of a Home Base. 
Some Clubs have rebuilt their Facilities in that time…

The Radio interview was appalling from a Club President 

  On 06/09/2024 at 23:49, Older demon said:

The best news this morning is Caro has dished the dirt on Collingwood and the huge bust-up between Wright and Kelly. Not all is happy at Pie land. So good to have a story that isn't about MFC. Where are Maclure, Morris and Warner when there is a carcass to feed on? I also expect the carrion to attack Bevo &  Hinkley after 2 finals floggings.

Oh yeah bust up!! Get your popcorn out!

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:19, Sir Why You Little said:

11 years after joining the board, we are still at the “Planning” stage of a Home Base. 
Some Clubs have rebuilt their Facilities in that time…

The Radio interview was appalling from a Club President 

Rebuilding existing facilities like Geelong and Richmond is completely different to starting from scratch. Administrations from before PJ & Roffey lost out on Olympic Park to Eddie and Collingwood.

We do have excellent facilities in two locations, one opposite the G, the other at Casey which are far better than the rat infested [censored] we occupied 15 years ago.

But can you name one club that’s been able to secure a new site with facilities in the past decade such the one in the Caulfield proposal?

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:13, Sydney Pennski said:

As far back as I can remember the issue of a social club/home base has been constantly promised by club boards and administrations for fifty years, not just ten. But if we must, then why not call every one of them in that time frame failures including the previous two presidents as well as Peter Jackson and Gary Pert, the CEOs in that time frame. 

Roffey became President in 2021, the club won an AFL Premiership that year and an AFLW Premiership the following year. Yet, she leaves as a failure in the eyes of frustrated supporters because we have a planning system in this state that is infamous for red tape and delays.

Sheesh.

Syd read my post again.

I didn’t call anyone a failure, I spoke about the frustration of supporters waiting for years with the worst facilities in the AFL, without a definite announcement of the new site being approved.

Can you please point out where I used the word failures.

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:13, Sydney Pennski said:

As far back as I can remember the issue of a social club/home base has been constantly promised by club boards and administrations for fifty years, not just ten. But if we must, then why not call every one of them in that time frame failures including the previous two presidents as well as Peter Jackson and Gary Pert, the CEOs in that time frame. 

Roffey became President in 2021, the club won an AFL Premiership that year and an AFLW Premiership the following year. Yet, she leaves as a failure in the eyes of frustrated supporters because we have a planning system in this state that is infamous for red tape and delays.

Sheesh.

Some might be labelling her a failure but most acknowledge her contributions to the club. Helping to steer the ship after what happened in 2021 won't be forgotten and she had been a huge backer of the AFLW. 

I hope she stays involved, even if just continuing to be at games. 

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:30, Redleg said:

Syd read my post again.

I didn’t call anyone a failure, I spoke about the frustration of supporters waiting for years with the worst facilities in the AFL, without a definite announcement of the new site being approved.

Can you please point out where I used the word failures.

You quoted my post which was a response to BDA who claimed that Roffey didn’t deliver and therefore was a failure. BDA claimed that my response was gaslighting and you supported that as understanding some supporters’ frustrations. In the context of what I wrote, you were implicitly supporting that claim.

  On 06/09/2024 at 23:43, Spirit of the Demon said:

One thing that I’m gobsmacked about is the way some people on here make comments like this while they are completely oblivious to the process involved in the club securing a home base. That process has been extensively  covered in material issued by the club and also in media articles.

Essentially, the move to secure a site within the Caulfield Racetrack is a work in progress that is undergoing examination and consultation and the final decision is outside the hands of the MFC Board.

To suggest that the fact that Kate Roffey has yet to deliver this option or any other within a given timeframe and is therefore somehow a failure is risible and reflects a lot of the warped thinking that’s enveloped our club over the past months.

I find this very sad.

Pretty sure the board itself set timelines in their communicated strategic plans ... correct me if l am wrong

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:30, layzie said:

Some might be labelling her a failure but most acknowledge her contributions to the club. Helping to steer the ship after what happened in 2021 won't be forgotten and she had been a huge backer of the AFLW. 

I hope she stays involved, even if just continuing to be at games. 

l think supporters realise that she became prez midway through our premiership year when l think we were around 10 or so wins without a loss. Footy dept changes were made in the preseason my pert well before. l can still appreciate her 11 years of service however as a volunteer in very difficult but rewarding positions. Surely other past board members also deserve just as much credit

Edited September 7, 2024Sep 7 by Demons1858

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:42, Demons1858 said:

Pretty sure the board itself set timelines in their communicated strategic plans ... correct me if l am wrong

Do you have a link to those “communicated strategic plans”?

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:46, Demons1858 said:

l think supporters realise the she became prez midway through our premiership year when l think we were around 10 or so wins without a loss. Footy dept changes were made in the preseason my pert well before. l can still appreciate her 11 years of service as a volunteer in difficult but rewarding positions

She bacame president just before we beat Geelong to go 4-0 but I take your point. 

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:52, Sydney Pennski said:

Do you have a link to those “communicated strategic plans”?

No, referring to the old one in 2020. We need to start construction soon as l understand. Have you had a search?

Edited September 7, 2024Sep 7 by Demons1858

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:29, alpha33 said:

But can you name one club that’s been able to secure a new site with facilities in the past decade such the one in the Caulfield proposal?

Brisbane.

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:58, george_on_the_outer said:

Brisbane.

Excellent point George but, having spent a bit of time in the Sunshine State, I can say that they do things differently up there when it comes to public infrastructure and planning. 😉

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:29, alpha33 said:

But can you name one club that’s been able to secure a new site with facilities in the past decade such the one in the Caulfield proposal?

Hawks @ Dingley

Essendon Fields

To a lesser extent Adelaide (Thebarton) and Bulldogs (Ballarat) as a community oval already existed.

 

Edited September 7, 2024Sep 7 by Lucifers Hero

  On 06/09/2024 at 11:04, Dr. Gonzo said:

Any chance Smith can use his MCC connections to get us back in the MCG where we belong?

Sadly, no. The demand's on the surface were too great 30+ years ago for us to be allowed to train on it.

However, since the current MCC president Fred Oldfield is a keen Demon fan, with Smith at the MFC we would not be disadvantaged at all.

  On 07/09/2024 at 00:58, george_on_the_outer said:

Brisbane.

Hawthorn at Dingley, Freo at Cockburn, St Kilda back to Moorabbin

  On 06/09/2024 at 09:20, Satyriconhome said:

Not a fan of Brad Green's attitude to lockdown

Very interesting! What was his attitude? 

  On 07/09/2024 at 01:22, Cosmic Baby said:

Very interesting! What was his attitude? 

I'm not aware of Brad Green's attitude to lockdowns, but what relevance does it have as a board member or acting president? I suspect your question is politically motivated. Do you have to be a card carrying unionist?

  On 07/09/2024 at 01:33, mo64 said:

I'm not aware of Brad Green's attitude to lockdowns, but what relevance does it have as a board member or acting president? I suspect your question is politically motivated. Do you have to be a card carrying unionist?

Wrong think I suspect 

  On 07/09/2024 at 01:13, Lucifers Hero said:

Hawks @ Dingley

Essendon Fields

hawthorn at dingley too?

all equivalent but supersized versions of what we have at casey