Wade Derksen

[mo64 5,874]

7 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Surely Tim Lamb can’t survive a fourth consecutive year of doing SFA in the trade period ? We’re not improving 

I look at it as a bonus that Lamb isn't stuffing up our list this year with aging rejects from other clubs.

I'm not saying Derksen is a reject because GWS clearly want to keep him. And he's young enough to have upside.

The trade period is still early, so Lamb has plenty of time to stuff things up.

[picket fence 17,170]

19 minutes ago, demoncat said:

If Derksen isn’t available it sounds like we’ve got SFA to look forward to for the rest of the trade period 

Here’s to the pick swaps 🙌

I don't get why we don't go after Tim Membrey!!! always kills us when we play the AINTS!

[Yarra Valley Demon 127]

14 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I look at it as a bonus that Lamb isn't stuffing up our list this year with aging rejects from other clubs.

Ignoring Tom Campbell are we?  A "ruck" 13 years in the system, now at his 4th club at 32 years old, played only 50 games and is barely taller than most forwards?  Talk about wasting a list spot

[Axis of Bob 11,828]

3 minutes ago, Yarra Valley Demon said:

Ignoring Tom Campbell are we?  A "ruck" 13 years in the system, now at his 4th club at 32 years old, played only 50 games and is barely taller than most forwards?  Talk about wasting a list spot

What's your plan for a Gawn injury? Tom Fullarton?

[SthSea22 618]

15 minutes ago, Yarra Valley Demon said:

Ignoring Tom Campbell are we?  A "ruck" 13 years in the system, now at his 4th club at 32 years old, played only 50 games and is barely taller than most forwards?  Talk about wasting a list spot

We didn't have a back up for Max

Fullerton is not a ruck

Verrall is still raw

[Demonstone 22,558]

Day one of the trading period and posters are bemoaning that we haven't yet brought in any players.

This happens every year.  You'd think people might learn to wait until the trade period is over before panicking.

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

33 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Day one of the trading period and posters are bemoaning that we haven't yet brought in any players.

This happens every year.  You'd think people might learn to wait until the trade period is over before panicking.

When was the last trade period where we bought in a quality player late in the piece?

Lever, Hibbo, Melk, Langdon were all lined up weeks in advance. May I think set his sights on us pretty quickly too.

I have to go back to Mitch Clark which was a disaster in the end.

All the big names this year have clubs attached aside from Houston who is waiting to see if Coll/Carl get the currency.

The good news is we might get another Billings or Hunter. Fantastic. Great.

[gs77 4,252]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

I don't get why we don't go after Tim Membrey!!! always kills us when we play the AINTS!

Yes, but if he played for us, he'd have no bunnies left to kick bags against.

[Demonstone 22,558]

7 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

When was the last trade period where we bought in a quality player late in the piece?

Trade period runs for ten days.  Let's not lose our lunch on the morning of day one.

[seventyfour 1,142]

24 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Lever, Hibbo, Melk, Langdon were all lined up weeks in advance. May I think set his sights on us pretty quickly too.

All the big names this year have clubs attached aside from Houston who is waiting to see if Coll/Carl get the currency.

I would rate Lever and May above any player being traded this year, Houston included. Langdon, Melksham and Hibberd are up there with any of the other players who have already moved or are talking about moving in trade or free agency this year.

My point being that the available players this year are pretty poor. Perryman, Cumming etc, nice to have but nothing amazing. We were never a chance at the WA returners so they are ignored from the discussion.

While we're not getting much, we're not missing out on much.

Edited October 7 by seventyfour

[Demon Disciple 12,141]

30 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Trade period runs for ten days.  Let's not lose our lunch on the morning of day one.

Which is a farce. Should run 3/4 days max

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

27 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Which is a farce. Should run 3/4 days max

You’re a little out there, should run for 3-4 months, if not longer.

The trade window should be from mid October until March with a summer break.

Proper free agency should occur with a busy rush in mid October.

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

Trade period runs for ten days.  Let's not lose our lunch on the morning of day one.

If we get no one we get no one, draft is always more important to small clubs.

But I disagree with the idea a high quality player is suddenly going to come to us.

Our main target was Houston. Our second target with Derksen.

I’d be shocked if we get anyone of quality. But some times the best pick ups are the bargain buys, they just haven’t been for us in a long time. 

[Clintosaurus 7,849]

Should be trades all year round. HQ would not like as they like to dominate the sports news cycle.

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

4 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Should be trades all year round. HQ would not like as they like to dominate the sports news cycle.

I hate the way in some leagues you can top up late in seasons, at most a mid year deadline. And even then I’d prefer if mid year is only for fringe players somehow.

But if they had trade deadlines in late November (summer trade window), March (pre season) and a mid year window they’d have 3 periods of movement and a bumper free agency period in October. Plus more movement around the draft. 

[KozzyCan 764]

Lamb didn't sound too convincing re Derksen and GWS been firm. Not great signs.

[godees 863]

Pretty pathetic by GWS not to consider a trade. They have heaps of depth in KP players, he has family reasons to want to be in Melbourne and they haven’t given him a game. Hardly a player to really put your foot down on. I hope he leaves next year for nothing.

[Clintosaurus 7,849]

6 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Lamb didn't sound too convincing re Derksen and GWS been firm. Not great signs.

Only early doors. Plenty of time left to surprise everyone.

[monoccular 17,431]

10 hours ago, Yarra Valley Demon said:

Ignoring Tom Campbell are we?  A "ruck" 13 years in the system, now at his 4th club at 32 years old, played only 50 games and is barely taller than most forwards?  Talk about wasting a list spot

 

10 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

What's your plan for a Gawn injury? Tom Fullarton?

Axis - well we saw that didn’t work; didn’t appear to even considered when we were at ruck rock bottom. 

[spirit of norm smith 16,462]

GWS are simply spitting the dummy here.  They’ve lost Perryman, Cumming, Peatling. Haynes.   They must have a toxic culture.  Their players can’t wait to get out.  Cameron. Caldwell. Taranto. Hopper. Treloar. Shiel. Tomlinson. Williams. And plenty more have walked out.  
 

A young bloke who hasn’t been played wants a better situation for his family.  He’s stuck behind too many at the Giants who are stacked with tall defenders and tall forwards.   Strange decision by the Giants.  
 

If I’m Lamb, I’m still pushing and asking the question. I’d offer Pick “48” on the table.  Thats more than reasonable. If the Giants hold out or ask for more, its disrespectful to the Dees, to Derksen and his family.  

[picket fence 17,170]

16 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

What's your plan for a Gawn injury? Tom Fullarton?

Can someone explain exactly WHY we ever got Fullarton??? Rucks at Casey, but not a forward! Whoever decided he was worth a list spot should be shown the door!

[Ugottobekidding 1,187]

16 hours ago, SthSea22 said:

We didn't have a back up for Max

Fullerton is not a ruck

Verrall is still raw

Verrall has been on the list for two years, that would suggest we have failed in the necessary development phase. Casey is a bit of joke at the moment.

[BAMF 4,353]

1 hour ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Verrall has been on the list for two years, that would suggest we have failed in the necessary development phase. Casey is a bit of joke at the moment.

Max Gawn was drafted in 2009. 

2010 = 0 games

2011 = 4 games

2012 = 0 games.

4 games in three years before he went on to develop into one of the best ruckman of all time.

Rucks take longer.

[mo64 5,874]

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

Can someone explain exactly WHY we ever got Fullarton??? Rucks at Casey, but not a forward! Whoever decided he was worth a list spot should be shown the door!

It's the same person/people who re-signed Schache for another year. However, according to many on here the decisions were justifiable because Fullarton and Schache were cheap depth, lol.

Hopefully the football department review weeds out the incompetent decision makers from the past 3 years.

[Demons1858 1,760]

Alot of drama is being made of late picks used on depth players, yes they have failed, but l am more focussed on getting and using our top picks such as windsor and kolt. houston is overpriced in my view also