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19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Also Kate confirms she hasn't spoken to Trac or his family so how in the {censored} would she know if it is actually salvageable 

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    1 hour ago, Fat Tony said:

    The President/CEO are always fall guys for when footy clubs get things wrong.

    Are Pert and Roffey really responsible for any of our issues? I would say no.

    Roffey has kept a closed shop since taking charge, but had we done what the previous guy wanted, we might not have won the flag in 2021.

    Leadership is an enabler (or disabler) of culture; Roffey and Pert are absolutely correlated with the current climate. At the very least, even if they are not the causative reason for our issues, they are an enabling reason. 

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    I think people need to calm the farm a bit.

    Roffey spoke poorly & should resign, but getting rid of her does not solve club culture, we won't start playing electric football again, she isn't responsible for our terrible recruiting, nor off field antics of players, Petracca won't stay if she leaves either, we have bigger issues throughout. It doesn't just end with her gone, we need a whole club clean out/direction and buy in. 

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    4 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    I think people need to calm the farm a bit.

    Roffey spoke poorly & should resign, but getting rid of her does not solve club culture, we won't start playing electric football again, she isn't responsible for our terrible recruiting, nor off field antics of players, Petracca won't stay if she leaves either, we have bigger issues throughout. It doesn't just end with her gone, we need a whole club clean out/direction and buy in. 

    I dare say the president of the club will solve some culture. That person will have a direct affect on everything 

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    The club is bigger than the individual.... except if it's Roffey, Pert, or Goodwin.

    We may lose trac, but keep them. We are stuffed.

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    3 hours ago, DeesignerAU said:

    We need Peter Jackson in to do an external review. He has finished a full review of the Western Bulldogs earlier this season. Furthermore I think we should get him in to replace Pert. Who knows, the AFL may step in and demand it (again)

    I'd love PJ to do an external review. He's one of only two at the Dee's (admin) that I've had full faith in. He's so strong on good governance - it's exactly what we need. But, keep in mind he's retired, so you can put a line through him for Pert's job. I'm more than happy for him to replace Roffey though if he didn't do the review!

     

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    6 minutes ago, Jack Vineys Anger Manager said:

    The club is bigger than the individual.... except if it's Roffey, Pert, or Goodwin.

    We may lose trac, but keep them. We are stuffed.

    This is the most likely outcome. Shades of keep Schwab and sack Dean Bailey

     

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    1 minute ago, BLWNBA said:

    Leadership is an enabler (or disabler) of culture; Roffey and Pert are absolutely correlated with the current climate. At the very least, even if they are not the causative reason for our issues, they are an enabling reason. 

    I think CEOs are actually the main driver of culture.  They manage every department.  They need an aligned board. If you get a great playing group and everything goes right you can win a flag, but without an aligned board and CEO who are strong on culture success is inevitably fleeting. 

    Brian Cook is the best CEO in the business.  This is a really long watch but really great video about his thoughts, culture, and alignment.

    He totally sorted out West Coast from 1990-1998. Geelong's current era started with him becoming the CEO in 1999.  He had a lot of issues to deal with during that time with a rebuild, player behaviour, coaches etc but stuck to his philosophy around culture. Geelong's outstanding culture over the past 20+ years was not driven by Bomber Thompson!

    I'm a bit worried about Carlton now that he is there.  I preferred the 8 years prior when they never played finals.

     

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    I found the interview quite bazaar it did the opposite to fill me with confidence.😢

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    28 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    I think people need to calm the farm a bit.

    Roffey spoke poorly & should resign, but getting rid of her does not solve club culture, we won't start playing electric football again, she isn't responsible for our terrible recruiting, nor off field antics of players, Petracca won't stay if she leaves either, we have bigger issues throughout. It doesn't just end with her gone, we need a whole club clean out/direction and buy in. 

    I think her immediately stepping aside would at least show some accountability for what has gone on this last 18 months and would signal to Petracca and others things are been taken seriously 

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    14 minutes ago, frankie_d said:

    This is the most likely outcome. Shades of keep Schwab and sack Dean Bailey

     

    This. Love my club but I have always felt that was shameful......and I'm not easily shamed.

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    4 minutes ago, Garbo said:

    I think her immediately stepping aside would at least show some accountability for what has gone on this last 18 months and would signal to Petracca and others things are been taken seriously 

    Need more than her, like I mentioned, she is not responsible for all of the other issues. Petracca is gone, and I'd doubt Roffey is why.

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    Just now, SFebes said:

    Petracca is gone, and I'd doubt Roffey is why.

    Not to derail this thread, but please tell us what we are getting in return since you are resolute that he's gone.

    Is it a MEGA TRADE? 

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    1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

    Not to derail this thread, but please tell us what we are getting in return since you are resolute that he's gone.

    Is it a MEGA TRADE? 

    Well that's how it's looking, would you agree?

    As for a trade, until we know who he wants to go to, it's just a guess. Have we ever seen a MEGA trade?

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    Wasn’t one of the wraps on Roffey her  connection to govt which would help with our home base or am i misremembering 

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    It's absolutely extraordinary if the clubs president hasn't been keeping in contact with Petracca and his family following life threatening injuries. 

     

     

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    4 minutes ago, SFebes said:

    Well that's how it's looking, would you agree?

    As for a trade, until we know who he wants to go to, it's just a guess. Have we ever seen a MEGA trade?

    It's looking like the club he wants to go to, has absolutely no trade capital, as openly discussed by said club's coach on radio.

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    FFS this is amateur hour.

    If you’re going to do an interview, representing the club in a time of (perceived or real, take your pick) turmoil, you don’t add to the turmoil by not having all your ducks in a row and being consistent in answering very straightforward questions. 

    Does anybody have their hands on the steering wheel? 

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    2 hours ago, Demonland said:

    Full Show. Calls from 1 hr 17 min 23 secs

     

    One of the worst interviews I have ever heard from a Melbourne Football Club President in a very long time and I have been a member since 1998.

    That was embarrassing and Kate Roffey was ill prepared to give that interview. 

    As harsh as it sounds, but that is unacceptable as a President of an AFL Club. No wonder Christian Petracca is upset.

    I am incredibly furious now at this disastrous situation! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

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    1 hour ago, SFebes said:

    I think people need to calm the farm a bit.

    Roffey spoke poorly & should resign, but getting rid of her does not solve club culture, we won't start playing electric football again, she isn't responsible for our terrible recruiting, nor off field antics of players, Petracca won't stay if she leaves either, we have bigger issues throughout. It doesn't just end with her gone, we need a whole club clean out/direction and buy in. 

    Isn't replacing the President and board where you start if we are to seek change? They set the direction of the club, they're the ones who can call for a review and set the parameters of such a process. They're the ones to intervene if something goes wrong that can't be adequately resolved at the lower levels. On the Petracca issue the Coach, CEO, President and Footy boss are all marching to the beat of the same drum which implies a level of complacency across all the leadership positions that has lead us to this point.

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    25 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

    oh dear

    hoist ... petard ...

    Hoisted by your own petard” don't worry I looked it up guys : r/community

    Succinct as usual, dc. 👏

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    1 hour ago, Watson11 said:

    I think CEOs are actually the main driver of culture.  They manage every department.  They need an aligned board. If you get a great playing group and everything goes right you can win a flag, but without an aligned board and CEO who are strong on culture success is inevitably fleeting. 

    Brian Cook is the best CEO in the business.  This is a really long watch but really great video about his thoughts, culture, and alignment.

    He totally sorted out West Coast from 1990-1998. Geelong's current era started with him becoming the CEO in 1999.  He had a lot of issues to deal with during that time with a rebuild, player behaviour, coaches etc but stuck to his philosophy around culture. Geelong's outstanding culture over the past 20+ years was not driven by Bomber Thompson!

    I'm a bit worried about Carlton now that he is there.  I preferred the 8 years prior when they never played finals.

     

    Great post, and the opening line in particular nails it. 

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    If someone in a leadership position within an organisation were to be questioned about their organisation and responded with the same level of unpreparedness and lack of understanding about the most critical issue facing their organisation as what I have just witnessed, they would be immediately dismissed.

    It is not just one issue they are responsible for; they are at the top of the chain and accountable for overseeing all major aspects of the organization. Such poor answers to the line of questioning today would be unacceptable in any professional setting, and the consequences would be swift and severe.

    God, I really hope Trac wasn't listening. If he was, he might already have his bags packed, or he’ll be rushing to do so any minute now. And he won’t be the only one, others on the team will probably be digging through their cupboards, reaching for their suitcases on the high shelf, and considering their options.

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