36 minutes ago, speed demon said:

There's a lot of assumption Langford will move into the midfield but should he?

Playing him on the wing this season was an excellent move; allowed him to use his strengths (decision making & ball use) and mitigate his weaknesses (speed, left-sidedness).

To me, his marking game was inconsistent but showed potential. Will almost certainly improve.

A wingman with composure and class who can take contested marks and kick goals is highly valuable.

I'm more interested in seeing someone developed in the midfield like Windsor - who attacks the ball at pace - especially if he can re-find his kicking skills we saw in 2024.

Agree. Maybe not what we expected but at this stage I see Windsor as having the potential to be that inside to outside mid and should get exposure in the centre square especially when Kozzie starts forward. Windsor showed he has pretty good awareness in tight and has the pace to get out of trouble. Wing seems to suit Langford’s strengths for the moment where he can use his aerial strength and goal sense drifting forward.

46 minutes ago, Gator said:

You've almost nailed my concerns.

Viney is a hack with his skills, but even he occasionally kicks on his right. And many, including Bontempelli are proficient. I've never seen Langford even attempt to use it.

He needs to improve his gound balls.

You got the contested marking right.

Plus, he's not as hard at the footy as I expected. Lindsay is far harder at the ball than Langford.

Cue the nuffies on here.

Yep, fair calls.

On being hard at it, i hadn't really noticed that but i see your point. Perhaps more time as pure mid might help, though if it's not instinctive he'll never be a bull like Viney.

Agree on Lindsay - i watched a few hours of junior vision after we drafted him and his intensity and preparedness to go hard is 100% instinctive. Fearless. And played a bit as a pure in and under mid it seems (which would be ironic if he becomes an inside mid and Langford outside runner)

Linsday barely had a preseason - once he has a couple more preseasons under his belt he will be one tough bugger.

Edited Wednesday at 00:544 days by binman

The hardness thing with Bison is in the air and going back with the flight of it. I presume that's what @Gator is talking about.

While the hardness of Lindsay being described is in his tackling ability. I was surprised with the excellence of his tackling and his ability as a first year player off half a pre season to lockdown on mature bodies in tackles.

That's how I saw them this year.

16 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

His 20m sprints from his draft combine were about the same as Cripps and Bont back in the day. It's a non-issue afaic.

I can understand the suggestion he doesn't have world shattering burst speed. Hell.. delist him !!

He is generally quick enough. More importantly he has footy brains, footy skills and who'd da thunk plays really good footy.

He carries himself as far more accomplished and confident than his mere years ought to allow.

As he gets better ( now let that sink in.... he will still evolve) and he becomes wisercand more experienced his craft really knows no limit.

Every now and again kids come along and make you sit up and get you watching the game with elan.

Here is such a lad.

Yep, he'll stuff up from time to time but the upside is massive.

He just looks purposeful and capable.

Can we find a few more pls.

21 hours ago, RedLegs23 said:

Lego Langford rated the 25’ champion data rising star winner via SEN ahead of Reid & Curtin.

Rated #65 in the comp. Best rating by a first year player.

Love Champion Data when they say Langford should be the rising star, but reckon they're full of [censored] when they say Xerri should be the AA ruckman.

6 hours ago, Adam The God said:

Bizarre from @Gator , but each to their own.

Langford will be an A grader very quickly IMV.

Sure, he picks and chooses when to go sometimes, like most players these days, as to the question marks around his marking, the last month or so we started to see his aerial work.

No player at 18 or 19 should be the finished product.

He is already an A grader. He is ranked 63rd in the league of 800 players. That’s top 10%

I thought the ball get in the last quarter where the “miss” kick landed between 3 pies. He calmly walked through weaved kicked the ball forward No pressure from the pies. So calm. So much time !

Will be very. Very. Very good !

‘I have critiques of a teenager that has been amazing in a down year, but I will protect myself by calling anyone pushing back on me - nuffies. Ok now I feel better’

23 hours ago, beelzebub said:

I can understand the suggestion he doesn't have world shattering burst speed. Hell.. delist him !!

He is generally quick enough. More importantly he has footy brains, footy skills and who'd da thunk plays really good footy.

He carries himself as far more accomplished and confident than his mere years ought to allow.

As he gets better ( now let that sink in.... he will still evolve) and he becomes wisercand more experienced his craft really knows no limit.

Every now and again kids come along and make you sit up and get you watching the game with elan.

Here is such a lad.

Yep, he'll stuff up from time to time but the upside is massive.

He just looks purposeful and capable.

Can we find a few more pls.

Agree Beelzebub Harvey has a high top speed and stamina for repeat sprints. He has shown us all a lot in his first year and really looking forward to next season, not just for him but all our youngsters.

On 27/08/2025 at 09:12, KozzyCan said:

Pace is overrated. You get speed through fast ball movement which comes from running patterns and ball use.

Too many athletes

Too few footballers