8 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Didn’t we bring Pettyfor on board? Has she not started yet? 
Our comms are deplorable. Have been for years. 

I think so, but it hasn't really improved has it?

1 hour ago, Ted Lasso said:

I think it would be in everyones best interersts from Trac, his management, the club, and the players to get used to the idea of Trac being at Melbourne long term, get your arms around him and welcome him back and work together to get the MFC back to grand final day in 2025. 

100%.

I would add fans to the list. 

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

I think so, but it hasn't really improved has it?

Well I don’t know because maybe she hasn’t started. We poached her from the Pies, so perhaps she has a contractual obligation to fulfill there until the end of the season. 

Either way, the club has for years, thru poor mismanagement of brand communication, allowed the media to drive this narrative around our club. We should be controlling what goes out and what is said about us in the media. Not the other way around. 

I’ve been a brand and product manager for over 15 years and I can tell you categorically, that making a product look good, is far more important than the product itself actually being good. Perception is everything.

13 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

I find this whole thing laughable, confusing and frustrating. These guys spend every waking moment together…..almost. How on earth aren’t they calling each other smsing on a regular basis? Why do Comms need to go through the FD? The players should be talking him to regularly to see what’s going on. 

I call BS on this and frankly Tracs camp making this an issue when it’s not. It’s way over the top and dramatic and I’ll go as far as saying it’s being used an excuse.

 

IMO, comms should go through the club as a matter of professionalism and standard process.

I'm a film producer and I'm constantly checking in with my crew, making sure they're all feeling fine with everything. It's process and good communication, the latter this situation is apparently greatly lacking.

As a matter of good communication, the FD should have made it clear that Trac would be going on extended leave, and he had the blessing of the club after a real life and death ordeal.

But on the other hand, it's ridiculous to think that Trac wouldn't reach out to the players and say something. 

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3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

100%.

I would add fans to the list. 

Again, social media/comms will have a big part to play in this resurrection if that's the way it goes.

They need to bloody get it right.

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

IMO, comms should go through the club as a matter of professionalism.

I'm a film producer and I'm constantly checking in with my crew, making sure they're all feeling fine with everything. It's process and good communication, the latter this situation is apparently greatly lacking.

As a matter of good communication, the FD should have made it clear that Trac would be going on extended leave, and he had the blessing of the club after a real life and death ordeal.

But on the other hand, it's ridiculous to think that Trac wouldn't reach out to the players and say something. 

I would be staggered if this didn't happen, the players would also be in multiple group chats and have constant communication. I would speculate that the reality is closer to, the players are frustrated with their club being dragged through the mud by a player having some sort of tantrum, and that players general attitude being horrible, and it's been spun to make it sound like the club is again dysfunctional and the player is a victim. 

This Comms stuff is just an excuse being dished up

You reckon his team mates were watching the news one night and saw his head pop up in sunny qld

Petracca is forcing his way to the Miami heat!

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

 

But on the other hand, it's ridiculous to think that Trac wouldn't reach out to the players and say something. 

He probably did. He probably said he needs to take a break, but then spent the entire time actually working on his personal social media content, while also perhaps continuing to complain about the standards and behaviors inside the club. Maybe players didn’t like that. 

There is definitely more to this than just Trac going to Noosa and the players being annoyed that they weren’t allowed to go on holidays too. 
Compare and contrast with Langdon going to his sister’s wedding. Not sure there would be much angst there. 
 

Either way, good people management would see this tension rising and put an immediate stop to it via correct mediation process. Not let it fester and boil over. 

This is a sh*t show..

A lot of this goes back to last year…

33 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

IMO, comms should go through the club as a matter of professionalism and standard process.

I'm a film producer and I'm constantly checking in with my crew, making sure they're all feeling fine with everything. It's process and good communication, the latter this situation is apparently greatly lacking.

As a matter of good communication, the FD should have made it clear that Trac would be going on extended leave, and he had the blessing of the club after a real life and death ordeal.

But on the other hand, it's ridiculous to think that Trac wouldn't reach out to the players and say something. 

That is 100% my take. It’s farcical that they aren’t talking. This whole situation is really doing my head in. 
 

Does he want to leave because :

1) The way the club treated him during his injury?

2) Some insensitivity post issue - ie butchered Comms

3) Style of play , standards , training facilities 

4) Wants a bigger club . Not necessarily a more on field successful one but a bigger one to improve his brand.

 

1 hour ago, wheaters31 said:

If he wants to go to Collingwood, tell them we'll have the Lexus Centre (or whatever it is called now) as part of the deal.

That'll sort out the home base issue. 

Wouldn’t he just be in the Nick Daicos shadow though? 
 

Pies just don’t work in so many levels.

1- He’ll be second fiddle

2- Can’t afford to pay him as well as we would

3 - Their list is going nowhere 

 

2 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

That is 100% my take. It’s farcical that they aren’t talking. This whole situation is really doing my head in. 
 

Does he want to leave because :

1) The way the club treated him during his injury?

2) Some insensitivity post issue - ie butchered Comms

3) Style of play , standards , training facilities 

4) Wants a bigger club . Not necessarily a more on field successful one but a bigger one to improve his brand.

 

 

Isn't Tracc a big fan of Eckhart Tolle ?

Shouldn't he apply some of his teachings and be conscious enough to ensure his "pain body" isn't controlling his decision making...🥴

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jSpDZVM1WE

he was pretty good at getting over past bad blood with braydon maynard on Kings Bday 

 

5 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Wouldn’t he just be in the Nick Daicos shadow though? 
 

Pies just don’t work in so many levels.

1- He’ll be second fiddle

2- Can’t afford to pay him as well as we would

3 - Their list is going nowhere 

 

The thing is we actually want players whose heart is invested in the club.

You are the problem if you don't contribute to the solution.

It's starting to sound like his heart is not invested in us.

There's a been a failure of communication on both sides. Happens all the time in life. I don't think that's the root cause of this problem though.

He's a senior player with a lot of influence. He may be very professional in his training standards and no doubt gives 100% on the field, but it doesn't look like he's invested in the club as much as we'd like him to be. Easiest thing in the world to do is spit the dummy when things get rough. Start complaining about others. start complaining about the organisation. That's not leadership. That's just blaming. There are high performing high maintenance people in every organisation. They can be exhausting to deal with. A classic tactic they use is do this or I'm out. Gun to the head approach. It's not a strategy for long term success. Not sure if Trac fits this profile but it sounds like he could.

I think Trac needs to decide whether he's part of the problem or part of the solution. Is he onboard or not. He needs to decide. And quick. As it is, he's burning through his goodwill with us fans and with the playing group and his continued silence just alienates him more. He's no future captain that's for sure. If he doesn't want to be part of the solution, then best he moves on. The club will survive. Very difficult to get a trade done that we think is fair compensation but sometimes you have to cut your losses. No player is bigger than our club.

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

The thing is we actually want players whose heart is invested in the club.

You are the problem if you don't contribute to the solution.

It's starting to sound like his heart is not invested in us.

I think the trauma that Trac has gone through with his injuries from that impact is more significant than many - particularly the media (Morris et al) - have overlooked. Goodwin touched on the trauma for not only Trac but his family.

Watching him come off at the break on Kings Birthday, not one teammate or official went to him until he crossed the line clutching his ribs in anguish. 

Trac would have gone through a heap of different emotions about himself, his partner, family, life and footy and his priorities and what’s important. 
 

Leaving him to his own devices in Noosa, taking a break there would have been a lot of thinking and pain through rehab. 
 

communication is always key in any areas or line of work, if lacking it can cause problems.

Whatever happens, last week showed that the team is bigger than any one individual, no matter how good they are.

3 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Whatever happens, last week showed that the team is bigger than any one individual, no matter how good they are.

I think this whole season has shown that.

Missing Oliver, then Petracca, at times Max.

Lots to be proud of with our young guns.

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

A lot of this goes back to last year…

what happened last year?mIssing finals?

Just now, Kent said:

what happened last year?mIssing finals?

Clarrys situation perhaps?

So if his brand (publicity) is so important to him. 

Then

He's done a great job to be in the headlines, while not playing footy 

Or

Saying anything!!!!!

Tom Morris isn't going to back down. None of the media ever do. On the basis everything sorts itself out, he will just say that he understood it was true at the time but things changed. 

As bad as this whole Trac situation is, it pales in comparison to Tom Morris's choice of jacket.

winning cures all, losing on the other hand

Wouldn’t it be awesome if Trac and the club were somehow setting up the leaker and Tom for a massive fall and the leaker exposed: