On 20/09/2024 at 05:09, Sir Why You Little said:

From the Moment Gary Pert said on Radio last year that

“The Melbourne Football Club has the best Culture i have seen in 40 years”

the Media were always going to go hard on us. That’s the way it works. 
 

you reap what you sow 

They probably should have applied more critical thinking to that, "yes Gary but in 40 years you've only been involved with Fitzroy and Collingwood"

  On 20/09/2024 at 11:27, Dr. Gonzo said:

They probably should have applied more critical thinking to that, "yes Gary but in 40 years you've only been involved with Fitzroy and Collingwood"

He just shouldn’t have said it…

Who gives a stuff about the B&F? Other than players it is just an event for people to feel like they are part of the inner sanctum when they aren't. 

Edited September 20, 2024Sep 20 by layzie

Media: "Petracca should commit to the club and focus on 2025."

Petracca literally commits to the club, does an interview in branded Melbourne gear, and says he's ready to focus on 2025.

Media: "No... not like that."

 

  On 08/09/2024 at 22:54, Jaded No More said:

You laugh, but Bailey Smith has 329k followers. Bont has 133k.
Who is a better and more well known player?

Case closed.

Lol. Nek minut and every 2nd video is of Riv haha

  On 20/09/2024 at 07:03, binman said:

Well, to be honest that feels like a sorry...but.

Next time you decide you want to vent about one of my long spiels because they make you irate, go to the effort of reading it to the end

Or don't- but don't have a shot at me.

Ironically, you perfectly made my central point:

Rather than simply accepting Morris’s narrative (WHOEVER FED IT TO HIM) at face value, people should consider the full range of agreed facts and then decide what they think is going on (and I'd add not go off half cocked).

This will be my last post on this topic as we seem to be at polar opposites.

It was sorry for not reading closely to the bottom but not sorry for having a shot at you.  

Your post is amplifying the anti-Tracc sentiment that has pervaded most Melbourne supporters based on an assumption that Tracc fed Morris and others the story.  It's fact that Morris/Barrett stated people inside the club leaked critical parts of the story. Are you OK with that?  Serious question.

Just to remind you, we know Tracc had "confidential" conversations about wanting the club to improve as his statement said "I voiced my concerns as a leader, wanting better for our club, playing group, and fans.  During this time, I have been in open communication with the player leadership group and club leaders to ensure we can work together to improve as a club. I make no apologies for wanting to better our club and contribute to our success both on and off the field."

Everything else written could be leaks from inside the club with some mayo on them to make Tracc look bad and to protect individuals inside the club making them look reasonable.  Morris/Barrett stated the Brand Tracc stuff was from the club. It's likely we have multiple leakers. The bits of your post that I strongly object to are highlighted, but every other bit copied below is just amplifying what the media has speculated on and is not a fact, and is mostly based on leaks from the club.  

Anyway, I'm out on this topic.  Hopefully all supporters can get behind everyone in the red and blue and support them next year and stop the divisive sniping at our only Norm Smith medallist.  Hopefully the club can also block up the sieve and weed out the people who leak confidential discussions.  That will be a starting point to resolve the dysfunction that we all saw.

"Tracc fed Morris' his laundry list of complaints, which, combined with inferences people have made from the 'reporting'  can be boiled down to, what:

- Tracc unhappy with how the club dealt with him post injury 

- Tracc unhappy the club not more successful 

- Tracc unhappy being at a club with fewer supporters than the 'big' clubs

- Tracc unhappy with the 'culture' at the club (with the inference widely accepted that translates to a party culture)

- Tracc unhappy with how clarry was 'handled", before and after his dramas

- Tracc unhappy with the 'professionalism' of teamates

Have I missed something?

Notice the common theme - 'tracc unhappy'.

Let's accept that that is how tracc genuinely feels. 

And let's accept that tracc clearly had an agenda in feeding Morris 

That's not the same as those issues being real.

But of course, it doesn't mean they aren't either - to some degree or other.

I can't stand Morris, but don't blame him writing a hit piece based on info tracc fed to him.

He is merely feeding an insatiable demand for gossip, and seemingly for information that confirms many dees 'supporters' henny penny complaints.

Morris is not a journalist, so has no interest in balance.

But it would be great if people did some critical thinking, and rather than just drinking the tracc aid"

  On 19/09/2024 at 08:46, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Really? How is it an awful take? Personally I think it’s an awful take to twist a positive of him being given the green light to train to his full capacity for the first time in months, him expressing in a heartfelt way how he’s looking forward to be the best he can be, how he wants to get his body and mind 100% to where he wants it to be for the start of preseason to give himself the best chance he has to have the best 2025 he can, and by doing the camp like he’s done for the last 3 years is his way to go that, what’s it matter if he’s missing a night in the grog to do that? Is it really a big deal if he misses the B&F? Is it such a bad thing to call out the unprofessional behaviour of a media hack with a long history of being a slimeball? 

Very little that you've said in the last few days has come across as credible considering you've stated repeatedly how much you hate Morris and the media. You're sounding like the quintessential fan with a vendetta against the media. Give it a rest.

  On 19/09/2024 at 10:43, Longsufferingnomore said:

Do you have to constantly denigrate people by calling them nuffies.

I suggest you read the dictionary because it's not even a real word.

Sorry I may have missed it, but is Team Petracca going to be at the Brownlow on Monday?

  On 21/09/2024 at 00:03, Watson11 said:

This will be my last post on this topic as we seem to be at polar opposites.

It was sorry for not reading closely to the bottom but not sorry for having a shot at you.  

Your post is amplifying the anti-Tracc sentiment that has pervaded most Melbourne supporters based on an assumption that Tracc fed Morris and others the story.  It's fact that Morris/Barrett stated people inside the club leaked critical parts of the story. Are you OK with that?  Serious question.

Just to remind you, we know Tracc had "confidential" conversations about wanting the club to improve as his statement said "I voiced my concerns as a leader, wanting better for our club, playing group, and fans.  During this time, I have been in open communication with the player leadership group and club leaders to ensure we can work together to improve as a club. I make no apologies for wanting to better our club and contribute to our success both on and off the field."

Everything else written could be leaks from inside the club with some mayo on them to make Tracc look bad and to protect individuals inside the club making them look reasonable.  Morris/Barrett stated the Brand Tracc stuff was from the club. It's likely we have multiple leakers. The bits of your post that I strongly object to are highlighted, but every other bit copied below is just amplifying what the media has speculated on and is not a fact, and is mostly based on leaks from the club.  

Anyway, I'm out on this topic.  Hopefully all supporters can get behind everyone in the red and blue and support them next year and stop the divisive sniping at our only Norm Smith medallist.  Hopefully the club can also block up the sieve and weed out the people who leak confidential discussions.  That will be a starting point to resolve the dysfunction that we all saw.

"Tracc fed Morris' his laundry list of complaints, which, combined with inferences people have made from the 'reporting'  can be boiled down to, what:

- Tracc unhappy with how the club dealt with him post injury 

- Tracc unhappy the club not more successful 

- Tracc unhappy being at a club with fewer supporters than the 'big' clubs

- Tracc unhappy with the 'culture' at the club (with the inference widely accepted that translates to a party culture)

- Tracc unhappy with how clarry was 'handled", before and after his dramas

- Tracc unhappy with the 'professionalism' of teamates

Have I missed something?

Notice the common theme - 'tracc unhappy'.

Let's accept that that is how tracc genuinely feels. 

And let's accept that tracc clearly had an agenda in feeding Morris 

That's not the same as those issues being real.

But of course, it doesn't mean they aren't either - to some degree or other.

I can't stand Morris, but don't blame him writing a hit piece based on info tracc fed to him.

He is merely feeding an insatiable demand for gossip, and seemingly for information that confirms many dees 'supporters' henny penny complaints.

Morris is not a journalist, so has no interest in balance.

But it would be great if people did some critical thinking, and rather than just drinking the tracc aid"

You're out on this topic?

Seriously WTF are you on about?

You are talking about a completely different topic (who leaked to Morris ) to the one i was talking about (the need to think critically and not but into a pat narrative). 

You are arguing with yourself. 

I have no interest in that discussion. I think he leaked, you think it was the club. As i made clear, who leaked makes no difference to the argument i was making. 

I responded to your question if i had any evidence Tracc had leaked, said no and noted it was supposition on my part (as is of course the same for you with you version of who leaked)

I wish i hadn't (and won't make that mistake again) as you have a narrative, an agenda, an axe to grind (poor, misunderstood tracc - lets all leave him alone) that you are trying to wedge into a completely different discussion -

And i'd add it was discussion i didn't ask for your feedback on. Its forum, so of course happy to discuss and get feedback.

But not happy with someone getting stuck into me and misconstruing my comments - particularly galling given you didn't even bother fully read my post such was your need to defend poor little Christian from slings and arrows. 

Its ironic actually, because i have no enmity toward tracc - i think he has been immature and frankly incredibly naïve but it has played out exactly predicted it would 

And you are not sorry for having a shot at me? As i suspected sorry, not sorry. 

You think its ok to have shot at someone who post something you disagree with - noted. 

By the by, on your topic of choice, your rationale for it not being Tracc, but rather some mysterious person, or people, from the club is, to say the least, unconvincing. And completely fails the Occam's razor test.

One example. Leaving aside the strange use of the word fact, the "fact that Morris/Barrett stated people inside the club leaked critical parts of the story" could hardly be a less compelling point to support your argument.

It may be a fact they said that, but you'd be hard pressed to name two media people I'm less likely to believe, or two media people i thinks are more likely to make stuff up. 

But to be clear, i have no interest in debating wit you who leaked to Morris. I could care less to be honest. So it works for both us that you're out on this topic.

  On 20/09/2024 at 00:24, FreedFromDesire said:

Look, I'm not very interested in an ongoing battle on the internet, but I think we both know with what tone your "I'm sure my VCE Media students could explain it to you" was intended.

I'll leave it at that as we're starting to go around in circles now.

Now I remember who you remind me of...

Welcome back!

  On 21/09/2024 at 04:17, At the break of Gawn said:

Sorry I may have missed it, but is Team Petracca going to be at the Brownlow on Monday?

Yes but he'll be sitting at the Collingwood table with his Mummy and Daddy.

Edited September 21, 2024Sep 21 by Roost it far

  On 21/09/2024 at 22:21, Roost it far said:

Yes but he'll be sitting at the Collingwood table with his Mummy and Daddy.

Seriously his mummy and daddy should butt out, your son plays for Melbourne and has won a flag and loves the club and they love him stop meddling in that relationship.

Such meddlers! 

  On 18/09/2024 at 20:18, Skuit said:

Your metrics may be a bit different to those of the AFMA's, which didn't mention anything about journalism, or quality of, in bestowing the accolade: “No one has had a bigger presence in football this year, via television, radio and newspapers, than Kane Cornes. No one. Now or in the past.”

Tom Morris also got a gong, along with "AFL 360, hosted by Gerard Whateley and Mark Robinson, highlighted by powerful interviews with Melbourne superstar Christian Petracca." The AFMA doesn't seem to have a website, so it's a bit hard to work out who is giving awards to who and then reporting on those awards.  

God, i blinked.

  On 19/09/2024 at 07:20, Davos said:

Tom Morris has nailed everything relating to the CP saga.

Hate him all you want, but you can't deny he gets good mail.

I reckon his scumbag is more full than his mail bag, by a wide margin

  On 19/09/2024 at 23:52, whatwhat say what said:

if noble was a non-event then there's no way that he'd be getting a 4-5 year deal at gc17 and the filth would be demanding pick 12 for him as an opening gambit

speedy half-backs who can hit targets = the new inside bulls; every team wants two of em

An improver who has just about got the smarts, Good pickup and linkman, who has taken the ex Richmond players possie.

  On 20/09/2024 at 00:20, Katrina Dee Fan said:

It absolutely is gatekeeping while he selected elements of the story to deliberately paint it as a negative (starting it off with saying he won't be at the best and fairest) and deliberately omitting Trac's reasonings for it which he clearly pointed out in the video.

Agree KDF. There are ways and ways of writing straight and writing with intended inuendo.

Media maggots write like this all the time under the pretext of pseudo journalism.

  On 20/09/2024 at 03:02, DeeZone said:

I agree Katrina the Press have an Agenda against MFC, they have been hammering away at us all year, it’s like an inside ploy to spin a negative slur or attack on any bit of news that can detract from our club and blow it out of all proportion. To be honest the Clubs response of not commenting has worked to our detriment. There are several clubs out there very happy seeing us take the heat away from them, or is that part of the ploy. The word Culture appears to Trigger a lot of people in the Press in a negative manner.

It's all to do with Smith and i don't have a full idea of why. Along with their perceived ideas on Max and Goody not confiding with them.

  On 20/09/2024 at 05:09, Sir Why You Little said:

From the Moment Gary Pert said on Radio last year that

“The Melbourne Football Club has the best Culture i have seen in 40 years”

the Media were always going to go hard on us. That’s the way it works. 
 

you reap what you sow 

Spot on, bunch of simple blood sucking parasites. I love saying things like that because it gives their feeble little minds the sheets.

  On 21/09/2024 at 00:20, Bowserpower said:

Very little that you've said in the last few days has come across as credible considering you've stated repeatedly how much you hate Morris and the media. You're sounding like the quintessential fan with a vendetta against the media. Give it a rest.

Is that you Tom???

  On 20/09/2024 at 07:30, whatwhat say what said:

i don't think nuffie is a pejorative is it?

i 100% consider myself one!

and everyone on here...only nuffies would be this engaged 

I've just about had a nuffie of this.

  On 21/09/2024 at 23:54, DeeZone said:

Is that you Tom???

The thing about Tom is he doesn't care and just laughs it off in tweets. He's like Teflon and I'd be surprised if fan's views bother him one iota.

Edited September 22, 2024Sep 22 by layzie

  On 22/09/2024 at 01:32, layzie said:

The thing about Tom is he doesn't care and just laughs it off in tweets. He's like Teflon and I'd be surprised if fan's views bother him one iota.

agreed. he's more likely to be energised by criticism and controversy (real or contrived)

  On 21/09/2024 at 22:21, Roost it far said:

Yes but he'll be sitting at the Collingwood table with his Mummy and Daddy.

And walking from table to table handing out his sizzle reel 

  On 21/09/2024 at 23:40, Willmoy1947 said:

It's all to do with Smith and i don't have a full idea of why. Along with their perceived ideas on Max and Goody not confiding with them.

It started long before Smith.