Interesting that after three losses blues fans are calling to remove their coach.

Carlton did better than us last year and the one before , beating us in a nail biting finish. There will be the same stories in the fake press about goody if we do likewise and lose our third on the trot.

Come lads, do it for for Goody. Smash these upstarts in Gcs. Big time.

Ps while we may not have the firepower that Carlton have in a couple of power fwds, our goals are kicked by several players so they are harder to shut down. Having said that those players too need to step is as well. Big time.

Win games and this thread will quieten down

Keep delivering subpar performances and losses and the clamour will grow.

badly need the win today. 0-3 makes finals very difficult

By virtue of our poor 2024 we have received a favourable draw this year. It is early days but to not make finals would be unacceptable. End of story.

On 24/03/2025 at 12:16, DeeSpencer said:

I’m a Goodwin defender, we came out playing the right style of footy that will leak goals as you learn to master it. Made the right changes to take away North’s run. But didn’t have enough the quality to create good scoring chances especially as the legs got heavy in the 3rd.

For 3/4s we stayed in the fight but lacked class and forward punch. 

Last quarter was diabolical but that happens when the damn wall breaks at times.

Everyone’s thrown the toys out of the cot because North arent meant to be good (news flash 800 first round picks and some senior players will work it out eventually).

The press conference comment was a mistake but a well intentioned one. Highlights that we still haven’t got good people around the coach. No CEO, a dud of a head of footy who fell in to the job and a poor media team. But Goody has to own it and try to take the heat off Max now. Hopefully Max is supportive, he should be, there was no ill will.

Back to on field tho - it’s a work in progress trying to mold square pegs (Oliver, Tracc, Viney, Sparrow) in to round holes. Unfortunately we’ve been unwilling or unable to trade any of those out for value and are trying to win and stay up whilst we move to a new generation of midfielders. 

Madness to blame the coach when it’s a tricky situation that no coach would be able to get perfect.

Good post, DS.

Oliver should play mid 100%, Viney play mostly forward and get involved in forward 50 stoppages, Trac should play 50-50 forward-mid, and Sparrow may eventually need to make way.

Get McVee and Windsor into the team and alongside Lindsay and Bowey, we might start to see better execution.

On 24/03/2025 at 12:59, Pennant St Dee said:

Very good post, not compiled out of emotion.

Heat will increase if things don’t improve but the biggest lesson I hope that is taken on, is to have faith in the change in style they are trying to implement 

And the problem is some fans have no patient to watch the implementation. They complained for 2 years (2022-2023) about the shifting modern game style, and the minute we start to try and modify our game quite drastically and it doesn't click immediately, fans are up in arms.

We're trying to play style that we need to play to be successful going forward, but a game that relies on fast, accurate transition, but we're missing two of guys that will improve this immensely.

51 minutes ago, BDA said:

Win games and this thread will quieten down

Keep delivering subpar performances and losses and the clamour will grow.

badly need the win today. 0-3 makes finals very difficult

Agreed, although the expectation of finals, which I’m sure most of us have, may actually be very different from the reality, which comes as a bit of a shock. From a team that expected top 4, we seem to be now looking at trying to scrape into the 8.

It’s quite a fall, considering the list - you have to say we have underachieved so far, despite 2021 (which was magnificent). This is on the organisation as a whole - the reality is that the club hasn’t been run the best way it could be - on and off the pitch - since 2021.

For me, that’s why all this ‘love and healing’ stuff wears pretty thin. Stop talking about it, create a system that gets the very best out of your current players, win games (or die trying) and you’ll soon find a happy and joyful playing group and supporter base.

As I see it, this latest mantra about (to paraphrase) ‘there are still winnings, even if you don’t win the game’ as well as ‘it’s incredibly hard to win games of AFL’ is kind of accepting and validating defeat. Fair enough, your players will feel warm and comforted by it, but those of us who turn up each week, spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on memberships, expecting a certain standard of football and commitment are not going to wear it for too much longer.

17 minutes ago, 3183 Dee said:

Agreed, although the expectation of finals, which I’m sure most of us have, may actually be very different from the reality, which comes as a bit of a shock. From a team that expected top 4, we seem to be now looking at trying to scrape into the 8.

It’s quite a fall, considering the list - you have to say we have underachieved so far, despite 2021 (which was magnificent). This is on the organisation as a whole - the reality is that the club hasn’t been run the best way it could be - on and off the pitch - since 2021.

For me, that’s why all this ‘love and healing’ stuff wears pretty thin. Stop talking about it, create a system that gets the very best out of your current players, win games (or die trying) and you’ll soon find a happy and joyful playing group and supporter base.

As I see it, this latest mantra about (to paraphrase) ‘there are still winnings, even if you don’t win the game’ as well as ‘it’s incredibly hard to win games of AFL’ is kind of accepting and validating defeat. Fair enough, your players will feel warm and comforted by it, but those of us who turn up each week, spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on memberships, expecting a certain standard of football and commitment are not going to wear it for too much longer.

I think that’s all fair.

The only thing I would quibble with is that perhaps we have overrated the list.

12 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Anthony Hudson eloquently described tonight’s come from behind inspirational Bulldogs win over Carlton as this:

“Such a Luke Beveridge performance”

Can anyone here describe what a “Simon Goodwin performance” looks like?

contest and defence!

20 minutes ago, BDA said:

I think that’s all fair.

The only thing I would quibble with is that perhaps we have overrated the list.

That could be true.

I think mostly, teams who win a flag should at least be contending for another and making GFs or prelims.

A factor could be how old or mature teams and coaches are when they win a flag. There is an assumption that a young team that wins a premiership should build a dynasty, but the history seems to suggest the complete opposite.

Most premiership teams have an average age of 26-28. Since 2000 there have really been 4 dynasties that were in that age bracket. (Lions 2001-2004, Cats 2007-2011, Hawks 2012-2015, Tigers 2017-2020). The first flag for each was won when the average age was 25.5 - 26.5.

The five youngest premiership teams have been West Coast (2006), Hawks (2008), Pies (2010), Dogs (2016), MFC (2021) - all with an average age under 25 (except west coast at 25.1). All dropped off pretty quickly after the flag with off field issues. The Hawks kept that core together and built a dynasty around it later but they were the only one.

The 2010 Pies were interesting. If they didn’t hand that list to a young coach they may have done better. All the other coaches were young. Maybe a young coach and young premiership team is just a recipe for disaster.

That doesn’t let Goody off the hook. But I really think the off field issues have had a much bigger impact than anyone gives it credit for. The clubs infighting (board, player punch ups etc) began in May 2022 coinciding with our onfield decline.

Well on the basis of that first question the players have clearly stopped bothering to put any effort in for him so see ya

39 minutes ago, biggestred said:

Well on the basis of that first question the players have clearly stopped bothering to put any effort in for him so see ya

Maybe the last piece Petraca wanted to be changed?

It's time

5 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

It's time

Long past.....

Not to jump on, but the way Viney told Goody to "shut up" during that debutant announcement video (round 1) - although said in jest, was a clear sign of lack of respect.

He's too close to them.

Dead man walking!

14 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Not to jump on, but the way Viney told Goody to "shut up" during that debutant announcement video (round 1) - although said in jest, was a clear sign of lack of respect.

He's too close to them.

I don't care anymore for this season. All I want is some hope for a brighter future. We can't waste the talent of our young guns:

McVee

Windsor

JVR

Lindsay

Langford

Someone needs to give goody the tap on the shoulder, also bring in the kids and see what we got for the rest of the year. This season is done, start working on what we can get for Trac and Pickett and anyone else that’s old enough to not be there after the next 3-4 years

Edited March 29Mar 29 by Garbo

Bye Goodwin.

Utterly pathetic

If there was any doubt, today has made it clear. Big change is necessary

Thank you for the flag but the way we've unravelled on and off field since 2023 is too much of a mess to recover from.

Perfect song to say goodbye to the 2021 premiership team. Window truly closed.

Let's move on.

Yep! i just needed to see a loss like this on a G to confirm it.

We need a new coach.

And best to move on some senior players to bring in some picks for JT to use

Just now, BDA said:

We need a new coach.

And best to move on some senior players to bring in some picks for JT to use

Who would be at the top of that list of senior players?

Fritsch

Petraca

.

This game seals it for me, see ya Simon.

I wish the club would [censored] him off now but they won't. Maybe mid year.

We'll be batting to win a game.