Oliver Trade Rumours

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

8 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

A good club might look at Oliver's issues last year and see Tassie coming in and press the trigger and try and trade one or two high calibre players after maximising their value.

A good club would have kept Clarry's issues as quiet as humanly possible and maximise that trade value then.

A good club would have sensed Petracca's issues and got out in front of the story as soon as it was said he would 'leave tomorrow if he could'.

Instead MFC leaked most of Clarry's issues themselves, did everything they could to reduce his trade value, and is now shopping him after he had his worst ever season due to lack of preseason.

MFC admitted to making minimal effort to stay in touch with Petracca's family after his injury to actually support Petracca's position that the club was the problem rather than he. 

MFC potentially leaked stories about Petracca to make him sound like a primadonna and in doing so lowered his value also. 

I heard tonight Kozzie is also considering his options. 

Laughable. 

It was pretty hard to keep everything quiet last year, from a Club POV as everything was posted on instagram and Tik Tok… 

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,550]

Maybe Brand Tracc realises this will increase the likelihood of a Brownlow? 

[Garbo 1,477]

30 minutes ago, manny100 said:

9 news say Cats to offer future 1st.

With Smith and Clarry the future 1st will likely be pretty ordinary.

There would be a lot of things going on we do not know about.

We will need to trade picks for another 1st rounder in this draft to go with Windsor and Tholstrup.

We could get a good player with the pick 25 from the crows although it will fall back a fair way with compo, academy picks etc 

It was Tom Morris saying someone in Clarries camp thinks dees would trade for a future first and a player, hardly the most reliable reporter or sources I doubt even Oliver himself would know what dees might want for him 

[The Jackson FIX 2,828]

10 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

A good club would have kept Clarry's issues as quiet as humanly possible and maximise that trade value then.

The guy was sighted in all states of distress and undress in some very public places…. Keeping his issues quiet wasn’t a really a possibility  

[bluey 1,041]

1 minute ago, The Jackson FIX said:

If it’s you then Bye Bye but please don’t bother coming back (ever) if this is how fickle you plan to be. 

 

 

He’s a veteran, We owe him 5 million, he’s a give away, a freebie, like Treloar and Grundy, if we can raise Geelongs first (Next year) we are on top of the game.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,550]

Geelong players can be carried out unconscious from night clubs at 3am and it barely gets 24 hours traction though. 

[Disco InTurno 86]

1 minute ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Geelong players can be carried out unconscious from night clubs at 3am and it barely gets 24 hours traction though. 

Maybe that’s why Clarry would like to end up there? 🤣

[dazzledavey36 53,226]

 

[Clintosaurus 7,639]

5 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Geelong players can be carried out unconscious from night clubs at 3am and it barely gets 24 hours traction though. 

They have a lot of ex players and supporters in the media. Plus HQ wanting the story buried.

[Sir Why You Little 36,735]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Doug and Dynsdale Pihrana….

[1964nowMORE 480]

I was informed by my business partner (who lives in Geelong but follows Magpies) last Wednesday; via his good mate (who works for GFC) that we informed Clayton either day of or after the Brownlow that he should look for another club.

He was surprised by this; and his manager started the ring around.

Hadn’t said anything as was second hand; but it’s feeling more and more real by the hour.

[demonzz 111]

37 minutes ago, demoncat said:

There will be one less MFC member next year if we trade Clarry for only a future first from Geelong of all clubs 

That's not true.

[BDA 22,402]

If the club decide to retain Clarry and believe he can get back to his best I’ll back the club in.

If the club decide its best part ways with Clarry I’ll back the club in.

[Adam The God 29,635]

1 minute ago, BDA said:

If the club decide to retain Clarry and believe he can get back to his best I’ll back the club in.

If the club decide its best part ways with Clarry I’ll back the club in.

I'd normally agree. I trust the FD, but if Pert is meddling in list management/FD matters, I don't trust the club at all...

[adonski 10,986]

4 minutes ago, 1964nowMORE said:

I was informed by my business partner (who lives in Geelong but follows Magpies) last Wednesday; via his good mate (who works for GFC) that we informed Clayton either day of or after the Brownlow that he should look for another club.

He was surprised by this; and his manager started the ring around.

Hadn’t said anything as was second hand; but it’s feeling more and more real by the hour.

Day after the brownlow! That's ominous!

[Rab D Nesbitt 8,188]

24 minutes ago, Flowergirl said:

We should all threaten to cancel our memberships. 

Or start boycotting games. How bad will it look when we only have 16,000 turning up for our home...oh wait a second.

[Superunknown 4,157]

We are not a serious football club

[demonzz 111]

18 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

If it’s you then Bye Bye but please don’t bother coming back (ever) if this is how fickle you plan to be. 

 

 

It would be me too Jackson, if the club is that pathetic to agree to such a trade I'd be better off spending nearly $800 on my family, only so much [censored] a bloke can take.

[FreedFromDesire 710]

5 minutes ago, BDA said:

If the club decide to retain Clarry and believe he can get back to his best I’ll back the club in.

If the club decide its best part ways with Clarry I’ll back the club in.

I very much appreciate the sentiment, but gee whiz you'd have to be a rare person to have any trust in this club currently as things stand.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,550]

11 minutes ago, 1964nowMORE said:

I was informed by my business partner (who lives in Geelong but follows Magpies) last Wednesday; via his good mate (who works for GFC) that we informed Clayton either day of or after the Brownlow that he should look for another club.

He was surprised by this; and his manager started the ring around.

Hadn’t said anything as was second hand; but it’s feeling more and more real by the hour.

Can you imagine a night out with Clarry, Smith and Stengel? 

[demoncat 1,021]

21 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

If it’s you then Bye Bye but please don’t bother coming back (ever) if this is how fickle you plan to be. 

 

 

m8 I’m being hyperbolic but if you don’t think memberships won’t be affected by this whole saga you have your head in the sand 

We’re already thousands down from last year and are every chance to be thousands down again if we have another bottom six finish in 2025

And not just memberships - it’s already been reported we lost Houston because of all the noise around our club 

If you’re happy to keep paying up then more power to you - I probably will too because like everyone else here I’m a nuff who spends more time worrying about my club than most things

But not everyone is in that position and there is nothing wrong with people voting with their wallets if they don’t have faith the club is going in the right direction

And to be honest you’re delusional if you think we are at the moment 

[BDA 22,402]

1 minute ago, Adam The God said:

I'd normally agree. I trust the FD, but if Pert is meddling in list management/FD matters, I don't trust the club at all...

Pert should have walked already. I hope he doesn't survive much longer.

but I can't see how he could be acting without the knowledge of Goody and the FD (i still have faith in the FD, but not the board. and i reckon Brad Green would do the right thing). It would be an inexplicable and illogical solo run if he is. It would be grounds for Brad Green to call security and march Pert out the door for gross misconduct.

[Nascent 8,746]

43 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

How can you know that?

I don't, it's an educated guess on a hypothetical scenario. 

But consider the perceived trade value here at peak Oliver and current Oliver.

2022 Oliver: Age 25, 3x AA (selected 2022), 4xBnF (won 2nd yr in a row), 2nd x AFLCA (won 2nd yr in a row).

What would clubs have to pay for him here? 

Then consider 2024 Oliver: multiple off field scandals, major drop off in form for well over a year, 1mil + 6yr risk a club would be taking on.

Given there are articles suggesting clubs think they can get him on the cheap (take with a grain of salt), then I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that selling Oliver now would be right at he's lowest value.

Guess he can always go further off the rails, have further injury interruptions and form issues next year and therefore would be lower value next year.

As for Petracca, I only really included him as the only clubs that could satisfy our demands would be Richmond, West Coast or North and he's not going to consider any of them. If he goes to Carlton then we are going to get unders for him.

Get Oliver back into AA form and 12 months for clubs to get the assets required for Petracca and we'll get a much better trade outcome next year. That is if they want out and we decide to move them on.

Personally, I hope we keep them both for the entirety of their contract with both player returning to their best footy.

All my subjective opinion of course.

[praha 11,217]

Anyone listened yet and can summarise?

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,550]

12 minutes ago, BDA said:

If the club decide to retain Clarry and believe he can get back to his best I’ll back the club in.

If the club decide its best part ways with Clarry I’ll back the club in.

Gees your trust in this club must have been struggling during the Neeld years, or the time an ex player was so disgruntled that he basically dobbed us in for tanking on TV. 

Lots of form here.