Oliver Trade Rumours

[Clintosaurus 7,724]

13 minutes ago, Return to Glory said:

I reckon you could make a fair case that DH's like Sam Manure deliberately seek to cause disruption. You only had to see their disappointment when CPL came back into the fold. Are they fully responsible? Absolutely not. But they are very keen to destabilize the club.

Media been trying to destabilize the club for 2 years now. Scum.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,559]

1 minute ago, Clintosaurus said:

Media been trying to destabilize the club for 2 years now. Scum.

Sure but the fact that they have done it so successfully is because of a long list of own goals.

[Big Gun 42]

The problem that I need to overcome now is that sadly I have completely lost trust in the people running the club. I get that at every club there is a large degree of spin, carefully worded comms and positive messaging sent by the club leaders which I understand is super important in building the membership base and maintaining their support. But the events of the past year or so have me finally feeling more like a foolish, gullible [censored] for believing it all rather than the optimistic, supportive member I usually am. I’m pretty sure I am not alone here. Bit like a bad long term relationship I imagine. Heart says “all good, travelling beautifully” but the brain says “you have got to be kidding”. 

I usually get really angry at supporters threatening to cancel memberships and burn scarves etc. However, right now, I can’t say I blame them one bit. Make no mistake, we are yet again perceived as the laughing stock of the competition (a position I thought we had left behind us a few years ago.)
 

How is it our skipper consistently manages to front the press, tell it like it is (be it good or bad) and come away with most people’s respect and understanding for the honesty?

How can our highly educated and incredibly experienced club execs seem to lack such skills to the point that members will now struggle to believe anything that comes out of their mouths. 

Has any club self destructed so badly in such a short period of time since a flag? 

All I want is for the constant spin to stop (starting with the B & F tomorrow night) , some honesty, some transparency and to be treated with some modicum of respect. Once this mess is behind us, and hopefully very soon, if the club do these things I will be back on for the ride. For me, the next few months are critical as to how I feel about this club moving forward and I really feel so upset even saying this. 
 

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,587]

4 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Oh please don't speak for all of us. I certainly do not know exactly whats happening at all.

I'm certainly not basing any of my understanding or opinions on media speculation or assumptions that keep being made by posters here.

 

You missed the sarcasm there fella

[layzie 33,353]

Has anyone asked the question why Clayton was at the Brownlow? If there really was a strict set of guidelines to be met this year then why were we more than happy to let him go? 

[Young Blood 2,373]

1 minute ago, Fromgotowoewodin said:

You missed the sarcasm there fella

Forgive me. This thread has fried my brain. Appreciate it.

Also not a fella 🙃

[The heart beats true 17,937]

48 minutes ago, corndog said:

I've been a fan my whole life and a  member for the last 15 years consecutive. If Oliver goes to Geelong I'm done.

Why? What if the teams get better? Who knows what the future holds. Nobody saw ‘21 coming. Sometimes you’ve got to make moves to improve.

Edited October 3 by The heart beats true

[Young Blood 2,373]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

Has anyone asked the question why Clayton was at the Brownlow? If there really was a strict set of guidelines to be met this year then why were we more than happy to let him go? 

Wait what were the strict set of guidelines? Is this going off of media speculation?

[Roost it far 7,781]

2 minutes ago, Big Gun said:

How can our highly educated and incredibly experienced club execs seem to lack such skills to the point that members will now struggle to believe anything that comes out of their mouths. 
 

Because they’re all corporates who have had years of talking the company line. Blah, Blah, Blah. Listening to Gary Pert is like listening to the guy from Santos telling us we’re not getting screwed on gas royalties. It’s all just words and spin, I doubt many of them have any idea of the damage they do. 

[von 1,510]

6 hours ago, Superunknown said:

Let me know if you’re around Byron way for a hit

I visit a friend up there from time to time. Played teven valley last time. What a little wonderland that course is.

[daisycutter 29,465]

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone post a summary if the article?

here's a snip, which seems at odds with the headline

Quote

While Petracca is overseas, Oliver has been urged by friends to front up for the event even as he attempts to complete a remarkable move to Geelong in the AFL trade period which starts Monday

 

[Demonland 70,659]

 

[Clintosaurus 7,724]

Just now, daisycutter said:

here's a snip, which seems at odds with the headline

 

What a surprise. The headlines are inflammatory [censored], but all the average nuffies see and take it as truth.

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,587]

7 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Forgive me. This thread has fried my brain. Appreciate it.

Also not a fella 🙃

My turn to apologise then YB, no offence intended 

[drysdale demon 4,749]

50 minutes ago, KLV said:

The news just keeps getting better and better 

Garbage article

[Gawn's Beard 376]

13 minutes ago, layzie said:

Has anyone asked the question why Clayton was at the Brownlow? If there really was a strict set of guidelines to be met this year then why were we more than happy to let him go? 

I’m wondering whether he was even meant to be there? Was he on the MFC table? Lots of photos from the club of Gawn, Viney, Lever & May but none of Clayton. 
 

Anyone there able to shed any light on whether Oliver was on the MFC table? 

[Return to Glory 8,398]

18 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Media been trying to destabilize the club for 2 years now. Scum.

We’re in agreement. But don’t ever call me scum again😎. I know truth is a defence…but still

[Superunknown 4,176]

14 minutes ago, von said:

I visit a friend up there from time to time. Played teven valley last time. What a little wonderland that course is.

Went and watched the NSW qualifying there. Playing the pro am there next year. We’re nearby so may join there or Byron. 

[dazzledavey36 53,449]

20 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Can someone post a summary of the article please?

[seventyfour 1,062]

If we pay even a cent for Oliver to play elsewhere I'll be furious 

[Mickey 4,533]

2 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Can someone post a summary of the article please?

Cats will only pay full amount if draft cost is lower, or will only pay higher draft cost if Dees kick in some salary relief (duh).

Cats biding their time, our public position on a trade hasn't changed, and we may still keep Oliver. He wants to leave but a trade will be hard.

Any trade complicated by Smith trade

[Roger Mellie 3,903]

When it's all said and done, I can't see how the club comes out of this without looking like a steaming pile! They either:

a) lose the support of a lot of members by shipping Clarry to Geelong for sod all or,

b) lose supporters/credibility by retaining him and setting themselves up as a cultural mire target for years to come.

On top of this, the media is applying maximum pressure to feed their narrative/create new headlines.

Hard to take

[reynolds46 1,137]

Surely it's the MFC who want him gone and Oliver is now saying he wants out

[Demonland 70,659]

Not sure if this has been posted. 

[picket fence 16,818]

1 hour ago, Return to Glory said:

Allegedly

Positively he is GONE!