We would have to be nuts to trade a pick 5 plus change for a player who is 29 years old next year.

The history is simple. Our drafting (touch wood) in the last six years has been excellent. Our trading has not been excellent. Dude is 29 and can kick. 

Pick 5 is sacrosanct. 

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Norm Smith's Curse

He turned 27 four months ago, not sure why everyone thinks he's 29.

He won't be 29 until 2026.

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Nascent

  On 14/09/2024 at 04:17, Nascent said:

He turned 27 four months ago, not sure why everyone thinks he's 29.

He won't be 29 until 2026.

Ooops, still take pick 5 any day of the week.

I swear Houston will be 35 y/o by the time trade week gets here. 

Why do journalists encourage trades? It seems a bit wrong for mine.

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Flowergirl

  On 14/09/2024 at 04:38, Flowergirl said:

Why do journalists encourage trades? It seems a bit wrong for mine.

I think using the word journalist to describe most of these attention seeking, self serving,  rumour mongering and  opinionated  media clowns is wrong 

I think its either the Saints at pick 7 or 8 plus change or he stays at Port.

  On 14/09/2024 at 04:29, Bang Bang Bang said:

I swear Houston will be 35 y/o by the time trade week gets here. 

Yes, the game will have to be stopped for regular incontinence breaks.

  On 14/09/2024 at 04:38, Flowergirl said:

Why do journalists encourage trades? It seems a bit wrong for mine.

My thoughts on this are that the media, and AFL HQ would like an EPL style setup with a few Vic and interstate superclubs playing in front of 150,000 and other clubs being like Luton Town.

  On 14/09/2024 at 05:03, manny100 said:

I think its either the Saints at pick 7 or 8 plus change or he stays at Port.

Carlton’s pick 11 plus good steak knives (maybe even Carlton’s future first for some later picks back) has to be the favourite. 

Houston’s a quality player but as I’ve said all along if they can land Perryman especially as a free agent or even Cumming they should have faith in Farrell, Logan Evans, Sinn, Burgoyne etc doing the job at half back.

The need to upgrade their wing, midfield depth and key talls. 

  On 14/09/2024 at 07:57, DeeSpencer said:

Carlton’s pick 11 plus good steak knives (maybe even Carlton’s future first for some later picks back) has to be the favourite. 

Houston’s a quality player but as I’ve said all along if they can land Perryman especially as a free agent or even Cumming they should have faith in Farrell, Logan Evans, Sinn, Burgoyne etc doing the job at half back.

The need to upgrade their wing, midfield depth and key talls. 

I hope our club watched Jase Burgoyne do his thing last night, he’s the exact opposite of what we look for and he stood up in a final ahead of much more fancied and credentialed teammates.

 

  On 14/09/2024 at 06:58, Clintosaurus said:

My thoughts on this are that the media, and AFL HQ would like an EPL style setup with a few Vic and interstate superclubs playing in front of 150,000 and other clubs being like Luton Town.

That doesn't seem like a good commercial result for the AFL.

  On 14/09/2024 at 03:58, manny100 said:

We would have to be nuts to trade a pick 5 plus change for a player who is 29 years old next year.

We (one of the worst skilled clubs in the AFL) would be nuts to overlook a 2023 and 2024 All Australian and confirmed top 5 best kicker in the league.

I am astounded by the lack of disappointment around here in falling out of the race for the services of an absolute marquee player.

 

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Bring-Back-Powell

  On 14/09/2024 at 08:42, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We (one of the worst skilled clubs in the AFL) would be nuts to overlook a 2023 and 2024 All Australian and confirmed top 5 best kicker in the league.

I am astounded by the lack of disappointment around here in falling out of the race for the services of an absolute marquee player.

 

Just pragmatic acceptance... you can't get everyone for a whole range of valid reasons.. No point bitching and moaning on Demonland about the myriad of hypotheticals as to why it did not occur, and then to draw allusions from that, about what it means about the MFC post hoc.

But what I am gleaning is, that until we land an acceptable player* - MFC is a rabble.

*as deemed by the vocal supporter base.

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Engorged Onion

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:04, Engorged Onion said:

Just pragmatic acceptance... you can't get everyone for a whole range of valid reasons.. No point bitching and moaning on Demonland about the myriad of hypotheticals as to why it did not occur, and then to draw allusions from that, about what it means about the MFC post hoc.

But what I am gleaning is, that until we land an acceptable player* - MFC is a rabble.

*as deemed by the vocal supporter base.

Don’t disagree in the slightest what you’re saying. We’ll move on and draft whatever Taylor deems best or try to chase another established star.

However, in any other previous year I feel as though we’d have 30 pages bemoaning the fact that we fell out of the race in our chase for a genuine A Grader.

Why, for this year, are most posters apathetic towards this particular genuine star? He would’ve transformed our back half use of the football.

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Bring-Back-Powell

  On 13/09/2024 at 08:51, Adam The God said:

 

I really think the deal was done earlier in the season when the team was still entrenched in the 8, and that as soon as it became clear we would get a top 10 pick, the FD started to fracture over what to pay for him, and eventually decided what he would cost was out of our ballpark.

His management then threw us under the bus to save face for DH.

That is close to correct, just the opening sentence up to the comma is incorrect every other part is how it transpired. 

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:19, Pennant St Dee said:

That is close to correct, just the opening sentence up to the comma is incorrect every other part is how it transpired. 

If I'd written an in principle agreement prior to the pick being inside the top 10, I'd be closer, correct?

Edited September 14, 2024Sep 14 by Adam The God

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:43, Adam The God said:

If I'd written an in principle agreement prior to the pick being inside the top 10, I'd be closer, correct?

Not verbatim but pretty much it

  On 14/09/2024 at 08:42, Bring-Back-Powell said:

We (one of the worst skilled clubs in the AFL) would be nuts to overlook a 2023 and 2024 All Australian and confirmed top 5 best kicker in the league.

I am astounded by the lack of disappointment around here in falling out of the race for the services of an absolute marquee player.

 

We know mate. You’ve said so about 400 times throughout the thread.

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Don’t disagree in the slightest what you’re saying. We’ll move on and draft whatever Taylor deems best or try to chase another established star.

However, in any other previous year I feel as though we’d have 30 pages bemoaning the fact that we fell out of the race in our chase for a genuine A Grader.

Why, for this year, are most posters apathetic towards this particular genuine star? He would’ve transformed our back half use of the football.

Mainly the fact they wanted 2 first rounders and we need to add quality mids before TAS come in

  On 10/09/2024 at 06:05, Roost it far said:

Some on ground support for Max who can play forward……I’d be taking mids at the draft.

Harry Boyd, Magarey medallist.

Saints apparently no longer in the race for Houston. Does anyone know whether this has prompted a move to remove their president and board and sack the coach?

  On 14/09/2024 at 09:15, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Don’t disagree in the slightest what you’re saying. We’ll move on and draft whatever Taylor deems best or try to chase another established star.

However, in any other previous year I feel as though we’d have 30 pages bemoaning the fact that we fell out of the race in our chase for a genuine A Grader.

Why, for this year, are most posters apathetic towards this particular genuine star? He would’ve transformed our back half use of the football.

Because the asking price is our first rounder (plus more), which is pick 5 in a strong draft laden with midfielders, which we also need.

The gap between what we get from Houston (28 years old) and what we get from pick 5 (18 years old) isn’t big enough to warrant the level of outrage you seem to demand of us. 

  On 14/09/2024 at 04:38, Flowergirl said:

Why do journalists encourage trades? It seems a bit wrong for mine.

I hope they burn draft and salary cap capital on him. He's the last piece they need with Saad, Docherty and Newman in the team already.