Trade Targets

[Adam The God 30,407]

19 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Taberner and Ross are both 31. I'd rather go for the best state league talent with a hunger to succeed than washed up players like these 2.

If we were playing FIFA maybe, but in reality state league players do not have the elite fitness required to play at the top level for a season.

Those guys know what standards get you there and would be good back up, and good for Casey to develop our younger guys coming through.

Taberner is a stronger back than Schache if required and Ross is no worse than JJ, Dunstan or Harmes.

Edited September 11 by Adam The God

[mo64 5,881]

57 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

If we were playing FIFA maybe, but in reality state league players do not have the elite fitness required to play at the top level for a season.

Those guys know what standards get you there and would be good back up, and good for Casey to develop our younger guys coming through.

Taberner is a stronger back than Schache if required and Ross is no worse than JJ, Dunstan or Harmes.

List management 101. Replace players who we deemed as flawed and no longer required, with like for like.

And we don't need key forward list cloggers like Taberner. We need to see what Jefferson and Fullerton can do.

[Demonstone 22,812]

Peter Wright and Essendon have confirmed their commitment to each other. 

He's going nowhere (in both a literal and metaphoric sense).

[Tolstoys Nudge 1,734]

On 11/09/2024 at 22:07, dice said:

Surely not....

That’s what the offer was mate 💯 fact

[Clintosaurus 7,861]

On 11/09/2024 at 22:47, Nascent said:

Curtin, Tholstrup and top 5 pick this year plus change.

Imagine if Reid wants to go home after 3 years.

Cats fans think they already have him locked in at end of 2026.

[Trisul 664]

1 hour ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

That’s what the offer was mate 💯 fact

Odd.  Did we finish 14th again next year as well as being allowed a two year future first pick trade exemption?

[BAMF 4,385]

2 minutes ago, Trisul said:

Odd.  Did we finish 14th again next year as well as being allowed a two year future first pick trade exemption?

There is one typo. 2025 should be 2024. 

It's just explaining what the offer would have been with hindsight.

[Greg Schneider 987]

Dusty to Gold Coast appears on, should we be asking the question of Bailey Humphrey? We were super keen on him in his draft year, will he be pushed out through Dusty and Leo Lombard? They will play the same role as him. He wants midfield opportunity and Dees could offer him that. Signed til 2028 though 😩 

[demoncat 1,514]

1 minute ago, Jeremy said:

Dusty to Gold Coast appears on, should we be asking the question of Bailey Humphrey? We were super keen on him in his draft year, will he be pushed out through Dusty and Leo Lombard? They will play the same role as him. He wants midfield opportunity and Dees could offer him that. Signed til 2028 though 😩 

Definitely ask the question - but doesn’t seem to have come on as much as expected and doubt the Suns would even entertain anything while he’s contracted and still has upside 

[adonski 12,427]

4 minutes ago, Jeremy said:

Dusty to Gold Coast appears on, should we be asking the question of Bailey Humphrey? We were super keen on him in his draft year, will he be pushed out through Dusty and Leo Lombard? They will play the same role as him. He wants midfield opportunity and Dees could offer him that. Signed til 2028 though 😩 

We sure Baz Humphrie is actually much  good?

[Demonstone 22,812]

11 minutes ago, adonski said:

We sure Baz Humphrie is actually much  good?

He's looked everage at times.

[Nascent 9,283]

1 minute ago, Demonstone said:

He's looked everage at times.

[deelusions from afar 1,861]

14 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Definitely ask the question - but doesn’t seem to have come on as much as expected and doubt the Suns would even entertain anything while he’s contracted and still has upside 

He looked great in his first year.  He's young - we could get him at a (relative) bargain price... from memory we offered much of the Jackson comp for him?

[spirit of norm smith 16,587]

Yes to Peatling, Parfitt

Maybe if available to

Membrey , Matt Kennedy,

Maybe but with a lot of due diligence

Malcolm Rosas (jnr) 

No to 

Macrae, Daniel, Ross, Taberner, Cerra, Ladhams, Jack Martin, Marchbank, Hind, Sam Day 

 

[demoncat 1,514]

Hearing another well known Norm Smith medallist is soon to announce his retirement before catching up with Michael Voss for a coffee on Lygon Street 👀 

Edited September 13 by demoncat

[Nascent 9,283]

5 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Hearing another well known Norm Smith medallist is soon to announce his retirement before catching up with Michael Voss for a coffee on Lygon Street 👀 

Not sure if serious but trac would have to sit out the year and then enter the draft in 2025 if he went down this route.

[Brenno 289]

On 15/07/2024 at 23:22, Brenno said:

Although things seem to have turned a corner lately, this year has highlighted to me how little depth we seem to have through the center of the ground. Which, in my opinion is the most important part of a modern day AFL list. I feel we need to bolster our midfield ASAP and believe this year there are several high potential targets out there for us to look at. I don’t want anymore 26+ year old rejects from other clubs, as I feel that sets us back to in our age demographic and I think we need to re-energize the list with some youth.  I feel we should be targeting high potential youngsters that are for whatever reason struggling to break into their current sides or cannot get game time in their preferred position.

I understand we need other positions filling as well, but if we can snag 2-3 off this list and keep our first rounder this year, I think we would have done very well.

Tier 1

Ben Hobbs

Down the pecking order at Essendon but has the potential to be an outstanding player. He can’t get a decent run at it in the Dons midfield which is his best position.  I love the way he attacks the ball, has a touch of class and can hit the scoreboard if pushed forward. The Dons midfield still has Parish out injured with Tsatas and Setterfeild as further options so he may look elsewhere. We should be in his ear and try to lure him over with opportunities to play in the guts on a more regular basis.

 

Angus Sheldrick.

Clearance machine and unlikely to get a run at his best role anytime soon as the Sydney’s midfield is an embarrassment of riches. Been injured most of the year but would be a walk up start in a lot of midfields when healthy IMO. I get young Jack Viney vibes off him, and his ceiling is yet to be shown at AFL level.  Another we could potentially grab on the cheap and he is excess to the swans needs.

 

Bailey Humphrey

Most of us here are aware of Bailey as I believe we went hard to try and trade up to snag him in his draft year. He wants to play midfield but is stuck playing forward full time which is a waste of his talent IMO. With the absolute hoard of mids at GC he may not get a look in for many years. If we can get into his ear about coming home and offer the chance to get midfield time, he may just be gettable. He is only in his second year but I can see Petracca like qualities in this kid. Would be an absolute coup if we could land him, but we got to be in it to win it.

 

Tier 2

Josh Ward

Looked like an absolute future star in his first 2 years but has been down this year and pushed out of the side due to Worpel, Day, Newcombe and bizarrely Connor Nash taking almost all midfield rotations. They have tried him on the wing, but it just doesn’t suit him. He would add some class to our mid-mix and has an elite kick inside 50. The only knock I have he that he doesn’t relish contact like he needs to, but he is still young and has an extremely high ceiling. Down on confidence at the moment, but the kid can play! It would be a buy low type of trade that could pay off big time.

 

Neil Erasmus

Absolutely dominates the midfield at WAFL level, but with the young gun midfield at Freo it seems inevitable he will be on the move at season’s end. The former pick 10 is a Big bodied mid and only 20 years old. Not the best user of the ball, but hey, either is Viney, Clatty, Sparrow etc. He has never really been given a chance to prove himself in the guts at Freo, but the potential is there. Potential bargain if we can get him on the cheap.

 

Luke Pedlar

I don’t understand the way the crows have handled this bloke. Yes, his body has often let him down so far in his career, but Nicks almost exclusively plays him forward in a team that really struggles to move the ball cleanly, or he is stuck in the 2s. On the few occasions Luke has got some center bounces attendances, he has shown some serious talent and some very nice and rare attributes. He is not a huge build but goes very very hard at the ball and man. If he can get his body right, I see him as an explosive, tough and skilled Mid/Fwd with huge potential upside.

Tier 3

Alex Davies.

Not the same level of player as the formerly mentioned but would cost basically nothing and would certainly add to our midfield mix. 191cm midfielder and still only 22. Gold Coast have solid midfield depth at the moment and he is right on the cusp of getting regular game time. Works hard and cracks in. Would be a could get IMO. He is rough and raw but there is a lot to like in his game. A late 3rd or 4^th rounder could get it done.

 

Henry Hustwaite

This kid has class, skill and that elite “Pendlebury” awareness in his game. Has played a few games this year at AFL level and while he didn’t star, he showed signs and potential. Hawk midfield is deep at the moment, and he is back in the pecking order. I don’t think the Hawks would want to lose him and it would at least be worth putting out the feelers.

 

Jaxon Binns

More of an outside type, Binns racks it up in the VFL and has shown he is above the level. The Midfield at the blues is stacked both inside and out so his chances to play seniors have been extremely limited. Probably not any chance of becoming a center bounces player so would be lower on my priority list but the kid can play and would be an upgrade on Laurie or billings. A late pick should get it done and he would most likely offer more than a 3^rd round kid in the draft will.  

 

Elijah Tsatas

 Another ball magnet and high-end draft pick rotting away in the 2’s for Essendon. His kicking is suspect at times but he works hard and can find the pill with ease. If he can put on some size and tidy up his disposal, he would be a very handy AFL level mid. Huge upside if he keeps improving and wouldn’t cost the world IMO

Still interested in basically all of the young guns on this list. But I am now extra keen on Josh Ward. Proved on the weekend that when he gets to play in his preferred spot he has potential to be an A grade player.

22 Disposal (8 contested) and 9 Tackles from only 64% TOG. 

Had the most tackles on the ground and looks to have improved his physicality.  With Will Day and McKenzie clearly the preferred options but out injured, he may be open to a club change. 

Secondly, With the new Dusty bombshell, we MUST knock on the door of GC for young Humphries. unlikely he will break into that midfield anytime soon and is wasted playing full time forward pocket. 

In: Ward, Humphries, Pick 5 (gun Mid). 

This would be a huge boost for not only our midfield but the overall youth and excitement surrounding the club. I don't no about you all, but seeing Ward, Humphries, Smillie/O'Sullivan joining current youth would make me super excited for round 1 

This youth added to our current vets sets us up for the long haul but also allows us to compete now. 

Midfeild Group 2025: Trac, Oliver Viney, Rivers, Ward, Humphries, Pick 5. Plus the occasional cameo from Kozzy, Windsor,  Mcvee & Kolt. 

Edited September 13 by Brenno

[spirit of norm smith 16,587]

Angus Sheldrick.  Make sure his management know we are coming for him at end of 2025. Five year deal on the table.   As per some experts prior comments… 

Angus Sheldrick. 

Clearance machine and unlikely to get a run at his best role anytime soon as the Sydney’s midfield is an embarrassment of riches. Been injured most of the year but would be a walk up start in a lot of midfields when healthy IMO. I get young Jack Viney vibes off him, and his ceiling is yet to be shown at AFL level.  Another we could potentially grab on the cheap and he is excess to the swans needs.

[dazzledavey36 55,318]

3 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Angus Sheldrick.  Make sure his management know we are coming for him at end of 2025. Five year deal on the table.   As per some experts prior comments… 

 

Angus Sheldrick. 

Clearance machine and unlikely to get a run at his best role anytime soon as the Sydney’s midfield is an embarrassment of riches. Been injured most of the year but would be a walk up start in a lot of midfields when healthy IMO. I get young Jack Viney vibes off him, and his ceiling is yet to be shown at AFL level.  Another we could potentially grab on the cheap and he is excess to the swans needs.

Why on earth would you offer a 5 year deal to a current depth player who hasn't shown much at AFL level.

You really do say some odd things at this time of the year SON..

[demoncat 1,514]

29 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Not sure if serious but trac would have to sit out the year and then enter the draft in 2025 if he went down this route.

(not serious)

[Brenno 289]

13 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Angus Sheldrick.  Make sure his management know we are coming for him at end of 2025. Five year deal on the table.   As per some experts prior comments… 

 

Angus Sheldrick. 

Clearance machine and unlikely to get a run at his best role anytime soon as the Sydney’s midfield is an embarrassment of riches. Been injured most of the year but would be a walk up start in a lot of midfields when healthy IMO. I get young Jack Viney vibes off him, and his ceiling is yet to be shown at AFL level.  Another we could potentially grab on the cheap and he is excess to the swans needs.

He can certainly play! Would love him in the red a blue if possible. Not sure  5 years is necessary but maybe a 3+2 option deal....I would much rather chase players like this than old past it delisted players like Seb Ross, jack martin etc. 

[Lord Travis 10,763]

1 hour ago, Brenno said:

Still interested in basically all of the young guns on this list. But I am now extra keen on Josh Ward. Proved on the weekend that when he gets to play in his preferred spot he has potential to be an A grade player.

In: Ward, Humphries, Pick 5 (gun Mid). 

I agree they're both great young players full of potential, but not sure how those Ins work in the real world.

Ward was pick 7 in 2021 and is now starting to flourish at an up and coming Hawks. He's contracted for next year. Humphries was pick 6 in 2022 and signed a contract extension to be locked away until end of 2028. He's shown he will be a star in time as he builds his fitness to play midfield for more minutes. 

Both are pillars of their clubs future midfields. They would both command a first round pick for a trade if their clubs let them go. Where do we get the capital to trade for either of them without giving up our pick 5?

[spirit of norm smith 16,587]

@dazzledavey36 I agree a 5 year term for Sheldrick is a stretch but if you are going to attract talent from other clubs, you have to be gutsy with $ and term.  That was more my angle.  Hawks apparently offering 6 year deals to Battle and Barrass to attract them.  

[IRW 1,387]

Jack Darling for two years ?

[Davos 923]

18 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@dazzledavey36 I agree a 5 year term for Sheldrick is a stretch but if you are going to attract talent from other clubs, you have to be gutsy with $ and term.  That was more my angle.  Hawks apparently offering 6 year deals to Battle and Barrass to attract them.  

Barrass and Battle are both proven AFL players. Sheldrick is not, although I would like to see us go after him.