So we’re does our improvement come from?? So basically our trades for the past 3 seasons has seen, Hunter retired, Shache delisted, Fullerton & Mccadam can’t get a game, Billing’s only getting games due to injuries. The mess around the handling of Oliver & Trac! It obvious no decent payer wants to come so Who’s to blame for this mess?

4 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

So we’re does our improvement come from??

The media want us all to believe that trades are the main things that allow you to improve. They want trades linked directly to hope. 

But what lets you improve is really careful list management, player development, footy strategy, injury management, luck and all sorts of other things. Yes, trades are a part of list management, but so is drafting, maintaining a good balance in areas like position, age and experience, developing depth and so on. 

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

We didn't, our star player did.

My understanding is the only way we messed this up is our first pick driftedmuch higher in the back end of the year than when we were willing to part with it for the proposed deal. Then both parties cooled for differing reasons.  

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

 

Waterman, more like Wateverman

never liked him anyway. Dodgy haircut

8 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

never liked him anyway. Dodgy haircut

Clarry’s isn’t much better.

53 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

So we’re does our improvement come from?? So basically our trades for the past 3 seasons has seen, Hunter retired, Shache delisted, Fullerton & Mccadam can’t get a game, Billing’s only getting games due to injuries. The mess around the handling of Oliver & Trac! It obvious no decent payer wants to come so Who’s to blame for this mess?

Windsor

Tholstrup

Rivers

McVee

JVR

Jefferson

Turner

Kozzie 

 

This is where the improvement comes from 

I would love us to have a crack at 

1 Tim Membrey

2 Matt Kennedy

and possibly 

3 Matt Owies

all would be upgrades for us

Fin Macrae is considering his options off the back of struggling to break into Collingwood’s senior side this year, per Mitch Cleary. 

 

We were interested in his draft year 

1 hour ago, picket fence said:

I would love us to have a crack at 

1 Tim Membrey

2 Matt Kennedy

and possibly 

3 Matt Owies

all would be upgrades for us

Upgrades on who?

54 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Upgrades on who?

PETTY

CHANDLER

SPARROW

27 minutes ago, picket fence said:

PETTY

CHANDLER

SPARROW

You are kidding yourself, Sparrow and Kennedy would be on par and Sparrow is younger.  Chandler is defensively superior to Owies but I agree I would see Owies as a slight upgrade but there is no way you are playing Membrey over Petty.

Edited October 9, 2024Oct 9 by Demons11

4 hours ago, Demonsone said:

So we’re does our improvement come from?? So basically our trades for the past 3 seasons has seen, Hunter retired, Shache delisted, Fullerton & Mccadam can’t get a game, Billing’s only getting games due to injuries. The mess around the handling of Oliver & Trac! It obvious no decent payer wants to come so Who’s to blame for this mess?

Fit and happy Petracca, fit and moderately sane Oliver will help…

When does a trade revolutionise or even revamp? Lever and May took a year to get going. 

Like another posted listed - improvement comes from within. Rivers and McVee continuing to allow CP5 more time forward, Petty being fit will give this experiment its final beta test, Pickett providing more explosiveness in the middle, AMW and Woey releasing others to do more in the backline, and continuing to commit to a game style that suits a team that has no dominant tall forward and needs to move the ball quickly, with dare, and not wait for May to kick it or for Gawn to mark it.

On 09/10/2024 at 18:57, FrothiesLiam said:

Fin Macrae is considering his options off the back of struggling to break into Collingwood’s senior side this year, per Mitch Cleary. 

 

We were interested in his draft year 

Wasn't he highly rated, where would he fit in, what's his point of difference or weapon?

16 minutes ago, Ungarieboy said:

Wasn't he highly rated, where would he fit in, what's his point of difference or weapon?

Small midfielder without many tricks

On 09/10/2024 at 12:14, Demons11 said:

You are kidding yourself, Sparrow and Kennedy would be on par and Sparrow is younger.  Chandler is defensively superior to Owies but I agree I would see Owies as a slight upgrade but there is no way you are playing Membrey over Petty.

Which one of Petty's 9 goals in the same amount of games as Membrey's 30 goals, impressed you so much?

2 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Which one of Petty's 9 goals in the same amount of games as Membrey's 30 goals, impressed you so much?

I really hope the experiment is over.

5 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

I really hope the experiment is over.

Let's see how he goes with a pre-season though. Getting Membrey in also allows us to shift Petty OR Turner down back, as defensive cover. Given we won't have Tomlinson anymore and Tmac and May will be 32/33 years old respectively. It might be something we need cover with. Derkson is an unknown commodity in that regard.

Edited October 10, 2024Oct 10 by John Demonic

Petty looks lazy when playing forward. Could Tomlinson stay for a year, not much appears to be going on from trade point of view

Edited October 10, 2024Oct 10 by Demons1858

Just now, John Demonic said:

Let's see how he goes with a pre-season though. Getting Membrey in also allows us to shift Petty OR turner down back, as defensive cover. Given we won't have Tomlinson anymore and Tmac and May are 32/33 years old respectively. it might be something we need cover with.

I don't think we're getting Membrey in any case. Personally would just move Petty back and use Tmac as Depth. No more than two talls in the forwardline. Go smaller and focus on moving the ball rather than playing a bunch of NQR key forwards.

5 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

I don't think we're getting Membrey in any case. Personally would just move Petty back and use Tmac as Depth. No more than two talls in the forwardline. Go smaller and focus on moving the ball rather than playing a bunch of NQR key forwards.

Why do you say that? It's the kind trade that gets done on the last day for a bag of chips, when all other business is attended to. And we've been rumoured to have been in talks with him per sam Edmund.

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/59295-the-tim-membrey-thread/

Edited October 10, 2024Oct 10 by John Demonic

5 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Why do you say that? It's the kind trade that gets done on the last day for a bag of chips, when all other business is attended to. And we've been rumoured to have been in talks with him per sam Edmund.

https://demonland.com/forums/topic/59295-the-tim-membrey-thread/

Because we've already flatly stated we're not interested as of 3 days ago? Just because we had a chat with him a month ago doesn't mean we're still keen.

7 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

Because we've already flatly stated we're not interested as of 3 days ago? Just because we had a chat with him a month ago doesn't mean we're still keen.

Did we? Tim Lamb? I must've missed wherever you heard that, I haven't listened to any media this week,

Edit: Nor seen anyone bump the TM thread.

Edited October 10, 2024Oct 10 by John Demonic

6 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

Did we? Tim Lamb? I must've missed wherever you heard that, I haven't listened to any media this week,

Edit: Nor seen anyone bump the TM thread.

Yes, was a question asked at Tim Lamb's press conference earlier this week right towards the end.  Was a flat no.

On 09/10/2024 at 15:33, jnrmac said:

never liked him anyway. Dodgy haircut