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I’ve no doubt after what he’s been through retirement would have entered his mind, along with a million other things. Can’t see him retiring at 28. He’ll recover in mind and body and be raring to go on or maybe even before Round 1 2025. I think there’s some reading too much into his first interview. He’s raw, drugged up and probably not sleeping well. He’s a very sound human is Christian, I wish him all the best in his recovery. 

 
2 hours ago, bobby1554 said:

Totally disagree. I think he blames himself for going back out there, mentioned numerous times "I'm a competitor......wanting to be with his teammates.....hindsight is a wonderful thing" Stop reading into it things that aren't there

I def agree with that. He made it clear it was on him going back out there. I think there is some issues for what has happened during his hospital stay and perhaps lack of involvement from club  that he seems cagy about. 

Retirement talk is premature. I can understand if he's thinking that but it's barely been 2 x weeks since the incident, things are still raw and are going to need time for the smoke to settle.

As Wells said, if he still feels this way in 6 x weeks then it gets a bit more real. Right now I think he just needs to feel whatever he feels. 

 

Not sure if the playing group realise how serious his injury is.

Last week max was on radio saying if we made it to the deeper part if the finals it will be hard to say no to trac if he wanted to play.

Trac probably won't even be running in sept. He will be easing himself into the pre season  & the club will not be hurrying him through 

He’s a natural competitor and as such will play on.

He”ll be cautious for a while regain his confidence and will play as hard as ever.

It’s just in him


I'm ready to put another $100 on he plays next year as well/doesn't retire. It is still raw for him, he has just lost his young man's cloak of invincibility, which I am sure a few of you can remember... He is practically a god, his physical condition is phenomenal, and in his mind his body has just betrayed him, it is a big adjustment, give him a minute. But everything about him suggests he is a competitor. I don't think he has spent six years lying about how much he loves the club and his team mates and his sense of identity is tied up in that. He ain't quitting yet, although I am very sure the people who love him would probably prefer he did. And there is the crisis, the thing that people love him for, gives him identity and purpose also puts him in peril, however it is not like Gus's injury which is at a tipping point, i.e. structural irreversible brain damage. Trac will heal, his identity will take over and he will play again. While I have never been an elite athlete, and If I'm a god it's as Bacchus, but I have been to hospital as a result of sporting endeavors (10m fall onto concrete anyone), motorcycle crash at turn 4 Philip Island (and a few others that have done ribs etc), I can tell you my first reaction is - I'm done, never doing that again, famous last words. Trac has buckets more of competitive instinct, he will be back. 

Put him down for All Australian next year.  Sports injury management is outstanding these days.  Both the physical and psychological side.  So many cases of modern sportsmen who had potentially career ending injuries in their late 20s but had their careers extended, not shortened, by having 8-12 months off to freshen up. 

Total professional so you know he'll be er, busting a gut to get back out there.

 

 

Hmmmm, there’s a big difference between a 22y.o. and a 28 y.o. going through something like this. It’s only 6 years yes, but at 22, you’re still a ‘young adult’ essentially, but 28 is in reach of being in your 30’s in which your priorities are waaayyyy different.
 

No idea what’s in Traccs mind but the fact this has happened to him at 28 means the likelihood of him seriously weighing his future is much higher than if he was 22. 
 

He seems like a genuinely good and level headed person so whatever he chooses is going to be the right call.

Just quietly, has anyone else heard talk that Darcy Moore got pretty disturbed during a club event when a bunch of Collingwood supporters were gloating about the injury to Trac and playing a game of 'guess who' about which Melbourne player they'll cripple in round 22.

The rest is entirely unknown and probably idle gossip, but I can verify the 'game' part exists because a client where my wife works thought it was funny enough to troll her with; "We got Brayshaw, now we got Petracca, maybe next game we'll do Gawn. Doesn't matter, not like you'll be playing finals."

Real classy stuff taking advantage of people being professionally civil at work, too. Quintessential Collingwood.


4 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Just quietly, has anyone else heard talk that Darcy Moore got pretty disturbed during a club event when a bunch of Collingwood supporters were gloating about the injury to Trac and playing a game of 'guess who' about which Melbourne player they'll cripple in round 22.

The rest is entirely unknown and probably idle gossip, but I can verify the 'game' part exists because a client where my wife works thought it was funny enough to troll her with; "We got Brayshaw, now we got Petracca, maybe next game we'll do Gawn. Doesn't matter, not like you'll be playing finals."

Real classy stuff taking advantage of people being professionally civil at work, too. Quintessential Collingwood.

Wouldn’t expect anything less from their supporters.

1 hour ago, Little Goffy said:

Just quietly, has anyone else heard talk that Darcy Moore got pretty disturbed during a club event when a bunch of Collingwood supporters were gloating about the injury to Trac and playing a game of 'guess who' about which Melbourne player they'll cripple in round 22.

The rest is entirely unknown and probably idle gossip, but I can verify the 'game' part exists because a client where my wife works thought it was funny enough to troll her with; "We got Brayshaw, now we got Petracca, maybe next game we'll do Gawn. Doesn't matter, not like you'll be playing finals."

Real classy stuff taking advantage of people being professionally civil at work, too. Quintessential Collingwood.

In the NFL Sean Payton was stood down for a year, the New Orleans Staints had a $500,000 fine and loss of draft picks for the 2012 bounty system on opposition players, Collingwood would want to be very careful.

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43 minutes ago, DEE fence said:

In the NFL Sean Payton was stood down for a year, the New Orleans Staints had a $500,000 fine and loss of draft picks for the 2012 bounty system on opposition players, Collingwood would want to be very careful.

Yikes, I'd not heard of that before and had a look at the story. I am staggered there weren't riots.

1 hour ago, DEE fence said:

In the NFL Sean Payton was stood down for a year, the New Orleans Staints had a $500,000 fine and loss of draft picks for the 2012 bounty system on opposition players, Collingwood would want to be very careful.

Sure, if the AFL wasn't the AFL. I've struggled to understand anything they've ruled on for a good 20+ years. Maybe 30.

But to believe that Collingwood has a secret plan to headhunt players... nah. To go a little harder than they should... maybe, even probably... but I want us to do the same too.

Please don't get me wrong - I hate that team, but I don't for a moment believe that they play to cripple players. Just make them know there was a contest. Much unlike the Hawthorn or Essendon's of the 80's.

Anyway, best wishes Tracc, and can't wait to see you back next year.


5 hours ago, Uncle Fester said:

Sure, if the AFL wasn't the AFL. I've struggled to understand anything they've ruled on for a good 20+ years. Maybe 30.

But to believe that Collingwood has a secret plan to headhunt players... nah. To go a little harder than they should... maybe, even probably... but I want us to do the same too.

Please don't get me wrong - I hate that team, but I don't for a moment believe that they play to cripple players. Just make them know there was a contest. Much unlike the Hawthorn or Essendon's of the 80's.

Anyway, best wishes Tracc, and can't wait to see you back next year.

I agree with you, however was more recent than that, Sam Mitchell made a career out of hobbling blokes, (loved when Yze ribbed him about it on 360). Anyway what I was getting at, is even the perception of some sort of bounty would bring alot of heat. Little Goffy was clear that it was filth supporters not the players, but even joking about this at a function where club people are would be a very bad look.

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10 hours ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Wouldn’t expect anything less from their supporters.

Darcy is too good for that mob. Wish he was able to choose us when drafted. 

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9 hours ago, DEE fence said:

In the NFL Sean Payton was stood down for a year, the New Orleans Staints had a $500,000 fine and loss of draft picks for the 2012 bounty system on opposition players, Collingwood would want to be very careful.

Not really...  They are the fabric of the AFL and it will always protect them.

Never been a level field

13 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Just quietly, has anyone else heard talk that Darcy Moore got pretty disturbed during a club event when a bunch of Collingwood supporters were gloating about the injury to Trac and playing a game of 'guess who' about which Melbourne player they'll cripple in round 22.

The rest is entirely unknown and probably idle gossip, but I can verify the 'game' part exists because a client where my wife works thought it was funny enough to troll her with; "We got Brayshaw, now we got Petracca, maybe next game we'll do Gawn. Doesn't matter, not like you'll be playing finals."

Real classy stuff taking advantage of people being professionally civil at work, too. Quintessential Collingwood.

Wouldn't be surprised if the spud d** Cox ends up hurting Max, you know he is all about using knees.

13 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Just quietly, has anyone else heard talk that Darcy Moore got pretty disturbed during a club event when a bunch of Collingwood supporters were gloating about the injury to Trac and playing a game of 'guess who' about which Melbourne player they'll cripple in round 22.

The rest is entirely unknown and probably idle gossip, but I can verify the 'game' part exists because a client where my wife works thought it was funny enough to troll her with; "We got Brayshaw, now we got Petracca, maybe next game we'll do Gawn. Doesn't matter, not like you'll be playing finals."

Real classy stuff taking advantage of people being professionally civil at work, too. Quintessential Collingwood.

I stopped discussing footy with Collingwood colleagues at work, not worth it. Just made me mad every time and they are stubborn as hell. But as they say, don't feed pearls to the ...


2 hours ago, layzie said:

Darcy is too good for that mob. Wish he was able to choose us when drafted. 

Ditto Pendlebury, he was a Dees support as well.

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Not really...  They are the fabric of the AFL and it will always protect them.

Never been a level field

Isn't the MFC a founding club? Sort of fabric of the game.

12 hours ago, DEE fence said:

In the NFL Sean Payton was stood down for a year, the New Orleans Staints had a $500,000 fine and loss of draft picks for the 2012 bounty system on opposition players, Collingwood would want to be very careful.

If Darcy was uncomfortable with the behaviour of the supporters, then it's clear indication that that's not what he intended, and surely the playing group can't be held responsible for the behaviour of the filthy supporters.  Okay, most of the playing group, Maynard will always be a specimen of filth to me.  

 
1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Isn't the MFC a founding club? Sort of fabric of the game.

I honestly don't think the AFL cares about that.  That to me was very clear in 2008, when the club celebrated its 150th birthday.  The AFL used that year to celebrate 150 years of football and barely made any mention of Melbourne as the pioneer club.  

18 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Not sure if the playing group realise how serious his injury is.

Last week max was on radio saying if we made it to the deeper part if the finals it will be hard to say no to trac if he wanted to play.

Trac probably won't even be running in sept. He will be easing himself into the pre season  & the club will not be hurrying him through 

Would it be fair to say if we get into the Finals as a major player from here, i'm thinking we would just do it for him and Brayshaw.


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