People working behind the Scenes and our Football Department have let us all down in a huge way. 
you do not come back from this, the damage (whatever it is) has been done. 
 

We have been deceived.

Look at Grundy last night. 
To not play him last year was sheer arrogance and stupidity 

This Club is like a Ferrari that hasn’t had a Service in 3 years. 
We need new people running the place. Top to Bottom 

The List can be salvaged but only with tough calls

I hate to say it but I agree. This list needs fresh voices and ideas. 

Why do we worry about suggesting change? We all know that nothing will happen, Goodwin will end up getting an extension out of  this

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5 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

 

People working behind the Scenes and our Football Department have let us all down in a huge way. 
you do not come back from this, the damage (whatever it is) has been done. 
 

We have been deceived.

Look at Grundy last night. 
To not play him last year was sheer arrogance and stupidity 

This Club is like a Ferrari that hasn’t had a Service in 3 years. 
We need new people running the place. Top to Bottom 

The List can be salvaged but only with tough calls

Which one is it?

FWIW, it's not the former.

This is not a "Ferrari" list.

We've been extracting consistent and largely excellent football from the bones of this list for four years. But with the drop off from Viney, Oliver and May, the absence of Lever and the need to throw Petracca forward more than we'd like, the list around them isn't good enough to keep us in contention. Compare that with Collingwood who today covered for De Goey, Mitchell, Pendlebury, Elliott, Cox and Mihocek with players like Kreuger, Noble, Harrison, Macrae, Sullivan and Dean.

2 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Which one is it?

FWIW, it's not the former.

This is not a "Ferrari" list.

We've been extracting consistent and largely excellent football from the bones of this list for four years. But with the drop off from Viney, Oliver and May, the absence of Lever and the need to throw Petracca forward more than we'd like, the list around them isn't good enough to keep us in contention. Compare that with Collingwood who today covered for De Goey, Mitchell, Pendlebury, Elliott, Cox and Mihocek with players like Kreuger, Noble, Harrison, Macrae, Sullivan and Dean.

It was a Ferrari list. It’s just a shell now 

100% agree with your opening comment, but fear it's become a boys club. 

Tim Lamb has to be the first out the door. Horrible record of trading for players past their prime. Goodwin won't get sacked, and neither should he, but some of his buddies have to go. That's you Greg Stafford. And question marks on our midfield coach McQualter.

Has Stafford been our fwd coach for the past 3 years?

What a joke.

Our players are clueless on how to play. There is no system just bomb it to Max. No matter that we have 2 or three free players they continually bomb the ball to Max.

As good a player as he is he is almost a liability for us now because we are so easy to coach against. 

 

 

I definitely think there would be some benefit in shaking up the off field and the game plan, it seems we need to re-load if we are going to be a serious contender again anytime soon

A big change is needed on and on off the field. I am not going to watch games live this year. Too hard from Ballarat and we are so boring to watch. Just feel so let down.. our administration is the issue

Would like to see Dean Cox considered to replace Goodwin - has done a couple of years learning from Longmire and the Swans system which the best in the business. Change is definitely needed. 

@Sir Why You Little The Ferrari metaphor couldn't be any more accurate. 

I hope the club takes this opportunity to clean back of house, because we've absolutely been asleep at the wheel since round 10 2022. 

2 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Would like to see Dean Cox considered to replace Goodwin - has done a couple of years learning from Longmire and the Swans system which the best in the business. Change is definitely needed. 

Maybe he could be a player coach and help give Max a chop out 🤪

16 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It was a Ferrari list. It’s just a shell now 

We're Formula V competing in F1

Just now, Smokey said:

@Sir Why You Little The Ferrari metaphor couldn't be any more accurate. 

I hope the club takes this opportunity to clean back of house, because we've absolutely been asleep at the wheel since round 10 2022. 

The list management has been atrocious, and now it has broken down 

 

Goody deserves to stay.

We would have won another flag last year except for injuries and Maynard. Ok the Laurie sub was a stupid selection but it happens.

We need to sack our forward coach.

Make some much better recruitment calls and start dropping players who don't perform.

If they don't put in, they don't play...simple.

Hi Petty 

18 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

Which one is it?

FWIW, it's not the former.

This is not a "Ferrari" list.

We've been extracting consistent and largely excellent football from the bones of this list for four years. But with the drop off from Viney, Oliver and May, the absence of Lever and the need to throw Petracca forward more than we'd like, the list around them isn't good enough to keep us in contention. Compare that with Collingwood who today covered for De Goey, Mitchell, Pendlebury, Elliott, Cox and Mihocek with players like Kreuger, Noble, Harrison, Macrae, Sullivan and Dean.

To be fair, Collingwood's system enables them to be a bit plug and play, but they were lucky our goalkicking was so abhorrent today.

I agree, but Goodwin won't go while he's protected by Roffey et al. The fish rots at the head and there are issues from the boardroom down, all the way down to the playing group. 

Arguably there's been issues since at least 2021, but the Premiership plastered over a lot of cracks. 

1 minute ago, leave it to deever said:

Goody deserves to stay.

We would have won another flag last year except for injuries and Maynard.

Is that you, Steven? 

Just now, beelzebub said:

We're Formula V competing in F1

Meanwhile Grundy was BOG last night in the Top Side, but he wasn’t up to “our” standards 

It is heartbreaking to see what has been done to this Club since ‘21

 

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The list management has been atrocious, and now it has broken down 

 

We haven't seen eye to eye over the years mate but we couldn't possibly be in a more furious state of agreement right now 

2 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

I agree, but Goodwin won't go while he's protected by Roffey et al. The fish rots at the head and there are issues from the boardroom down, all the way down to the playing group. 

Arguably there's been issues since at least 2021, but the Premiership plastered over a lot of cracks. 

Absolutely agree, i have worked in Departments that have gone sour. The only remedy is to find new blood 

1 minute ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Meanwhile Grundy was BOG last night in the Top Side, but he wasn’t up to “our” standards 

It is heartbreaking to see what has been done to this Club since ‘21

 

Let’s not get too excited about that game. Geelong have the worst rucks by far in the league and opposition rucks dominate them every game. Not playing Grundy in the finals was a huge mistake but moving him (and his contract) on was the right thing to do. Gawn is not a forward and neither is Grundy. They were no good together. 

22 minutes ago, mo64 said:

100% agree with your opening comment, but fear it's become a boys club. 

Tim Lamb has to be the first out the door. Horrible record of trading for players past their prime. Goodwin won't get sacked, and neither should he, but some of his buddies have to go. That's you Greg Stafford. And question marks on our midfield coach McQualter.

Agree. Tim Lamb 🪓 Greg Stafford 🪓 

1 minute ago, Smokey said:

We haven't seen eye to eye over the years mate but we couldn't possibly be in a more furious state of agreement right now 

When it collapses it goes quickly 

 

What's the point? Who would we get?