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Issac Cumming

Travy14
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Out of contract and seemingly out of favor at a very strong GWS backline.

If we are going to persist with Petty and Turner forward, should we look at this kid?

He is a very good footballer and GWS obviously like him as they have tried to play him in other positions to fit him into the side but he is an intercept backman and plays it very well.  Only 25, has shown he can play at a very high level in the AFL, only issue is it's just not an are we really need.

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    2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

    Sort of plays a similar role to Howe - that not-a-tall-but-not-small?

    yeh exactly, i really like him. but we do have so many of this player that we are throwing defenders forward, so it is hard to spend capital in that area.  Just a classy player that is available.

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    Very good footballer and exactly the right fit in terms of outside skill set.

    Have always rated him highly.

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    1 hour ago, Travy14 said:

    yeh exactly, i really like him. but we do have so many of this player that we are throwing defenders forward, so it is hard to spend capital in that area.  Just a classy player that is available.

    He’s only 184cm. I’d love him at the dees for some more run off half back.

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    9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

    Very good footballer and exactly the right fit in terms of outside skill set.

    Have always rated him highly.

    We need him; we have the spaces; creates another alternative to our mesmerised long-bomb conundrums up-front. Get him - blend him, keep ingenious options open. 

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    6 minutes ago, godees said:

    He’s only 184cm. I’d love him at the dees for some more run off half back.

    188, don't look at the WIKI page think its old info

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    In simple terms you have to look at our best 26 and say who is bottom 10. Then you ask is he a better player for a particular role than someone in the bottom 10.

    If yes... go for him

    I'd be disappointed if the recruitment team have not got a secret spreadsheet where this exercise is applied to every bottom 10 across the league. You can easily add in the "gettable" factor when you've identified your targets to determine the prime targets.

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    24 minutes ago, Travy14 said:

    188, don't look at the WIKI page think its old info

    Still, I’d classify him as a running half back, more so than a player like Howe who is a medium who plays tall.

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    2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

    Yes.

    Unrestricted FA as well I'm fairly certain. Can play wing as well and is an excellent user of the footy.

    yes he is, and you would think we can offer him more $$ than GWS as their books would have to be pretty tight

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    if he isn’t the GWS starting team should we really be looking at this player? 
     

    We really should be looking to take someone that will immediately improve our top end. KPF / midfielder etc. Our defence is solid and isn’t really an issue area. 
     

    So pass for mine. 

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    7 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    if he isn’t the GWS starting team should we really be looking at this player? 
     

    We really should be looking to take someone that will immediately improve our top end. KPF / midfielder etc. Our defence is solid and isn’t really an issue area. 
     

    So pass for mine. 

    Whitfield, Ash, Himmelburg, Idun and Perryman are the names getting a game ahead of him, all guns.  I agree about the other areas, but this kid is a walk up start in most teams in the comp.  Unfortunately no KPFs available worth spending $$ on.

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    32 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    if he isn’t the GWS starting team should we really be looking at this player? 
     

    We really should be looking to take someone that will immediately improve our top end. KPF / midfielder etc. Our defence is solid and isn’t really an issue area. 
     

    So pass for mine. 

    He's been injured to start the year. Was best 22 last year and will work his way into the team shortly. Has played >20 games for them each season for the past 3 years. 

    Can play wing and back and actually think we're thinner than we release for medium defenders. Salem is getting on, we've lost Brayshaw and with an injury to Bowey we are relying on Howes and Woewodin to hold the fort who have both looked put of depth at times. We have nothing beyond that beyond Hore and developing AMW in that position as Casey. Then we have Langdon/Windsor/Hunter as our wingers with Hunter maybe gone at seasons end.

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    25 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

    In simple terms you have to look at our best 26 and say who is bottom 10. Then you ask is he a better player for a particular role than someone in the bottom 10.

    If yes... go for him

    I'd be disappointed if the recruitment team have not got a secret spreadsheet where this exercise is applied to every bottom 10 across the league. You can easily add in the "gettable" factor when you've identified your targets to determine the prime targets.

    Everyone is monitored

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    Fills a very significant need for us with Rivers and potentially McVee playing more midfield time, and Salem constantly injured. We should absolutely be looking at him if his body is in good nick. 

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    He played his first game in the VFL last week coming back from injury rather being out of favour.

    So I'd imagine he'll be in the team in the coming weeks and will clearly be a required played going forward for GWS.

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    2 hours ago, Nascent said:

    He's been injured to start the year. Was best 22 last year and will work his way into the team shortly. Has played >20 games for them each season for the past 3 years. 

    Can play wing and back and actually think we're thinner than we release for medium defenders. Salem is getting on, we've lost Brayshaw and with an injury to Bowey we are relying on Howes and Woewodin to hold the fort who have both looked put of depth at times. We have nothing beyond that beyond Hore and developing AMW in that position as Casey. Then we have Langdon/Windsor/Hunter as our wingers with Hunter maybe gone at seasons end.

    Overlooked Brayshaw. Changes my view slightly, but it has given Howes an opportunity to develop.

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    22 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    Overlooked Brayshaw. Changes my view slightly, but it has given Howes an opportunity to develop.

    Indeed, watching Howes get a chance has been great. Perhaps acquiring Cumming could also release Rivers into the midfield where I think he has massive potential.

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    These are the types of decision we need to get 100% over the next 3-5 years, to stay ahead of the game, whilst The Map of Tassie take all the young talent. 
     

    Look at young kids who have been in the system (30-40 Games) So they are ready to step up immediately. 
    Recruiting will be the number one job for the next 10 years. 
    Get it right and the Club generates $Millions

    Winning=Exposure

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    I’ve always been impressed with his skill and contested footy.  He’s a definite YES from me.  Can play lockdown or as a rebounding defender.  A 4 year contract is possibly a good appeal for him. 

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    We are a number of clubs that have interest in Isaac Cumming according to Cal Twomey.

    It's understood Adelaide, Port Adelaide, Fremantle and Melbourne are all keen on Cumming, who is one of the hottest unrestricted free agents still available on the market.

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