25 minutes ago, Dee*ceiving said:

But if you are a long time player you will forever run 10-15% down on what you bet. That structure actually encourages the problem gamblers because they know eventually they'll get something back. 

That is what the problem is with poker machine addicts, they keep playing them and continually lose the lot.

6 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Excellent point.

Security of tenure for assistant coaches is very low. On this basis alone they should be paid extra to allow for the time to transition to another job

4 week Payout is the standard Contract. 
Very Difficult for an assistant Coach to rejoin the workforce if they have been in the AFL System a long time. 
4 weeks is an absolute disgrace…

3 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Played the pokies for the first time a couple of months ago aka the slots ...one armed bandits 

No such exercise. No heavy lifting required. Just press a button.

Whir. Click. Buzz. Spin. Fifty cents down the dunny.

Whir ...spin A JACKPOT.

Two dollars.

Whir spin.....you get the point, if like me you were dumb enough to play them....ten mins later ten bucks removed from my person.

Game over.

Everything tried in life ( almost).. once right?

But how people play these on a regular basis is sad. I'm all for everyone getting their buzz on but how this could be it and the cost involved... I'll never understand.

I'll play black jack on the cruise ship. I mean at least there's a sporting chance and some fun. And maybe betting in the past on ponies and Afl ...at least there's.  skill/ knowledge involved . Well for some.

But those machines suck. 

Funny, I recall people driving to Echuca to play them. Shame it's not still the way. 

Might be good for the clubs but not the patrons. A fool and their money I suppose.

I put $10 bucks in once when driving around Australia, I won $250, still haven’t put another coin in. 

11 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I put $10 bucks in once when driving around Australia, I won $250, still haven’t put another coin in. 

Pretty good return. Yep. I'd keep it that way. You've done well .

I won fifty on two up on ANZAC day this year. I don't think I'll play it again either. 

On 30/04/2024 at 11:04, Demon trucker said:

We all know for the future of the game, North Melbourne should have merged with Fitzroy was an easy solution, but the AFL was against it, just because North Melbourne was a good team at a time,  short-term thinking

The exact same was said about Melbourne and Hawthorn.

We've got short memories 

10 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Some of the games currently being played are sub standard. We can’t continue to dilute our product and just throw up the next tv rights deal as being the saviour of everything. 

There’s been sub standard games for as long as the competition has been going, doesn’t matter how many teams are in the competition. There will always be teams that’s are rubbish and poorly run, we sadly have been one of those teams for most of my life. 

9 hours ago, DubDee said:

No idea why anyone listens to Eddie anymore

Best. Post. In. Thread.

I read today that Cam Zurhaar might be worth 800,000k per year - starting in 2025.

I'm not having a go at Cam - he's actually one of my favourite Norf players. But you know money is plentiful when Cam can command that sort of money on the open market considering he's never finished higher than seventh in Norf's B&F in what is a diabolical era for the club.

9 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

There’s been sub standard games for as long as the competition has been going, doesn’t matter how many teams are in the competition. There will always be teams that’s are rubbish and poorly run, we sadly have been one of those teams for most of my life. 

Agree but how many can a competition sustain? Right now we have 3-4 on average per year.

13 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Best. Post. In. Thread.

Disagree, Eddie has done a lot for the game including helping struggling teams over the years including the Bulldogs and us. He’s well connected and cares about the future of the game.

Edited May 1, 20241 yr by Bombay Airconditioning

I watched Carey’s North Melbourne in my 20’s, they were awesome. Carey V Neitz was a fantastic duel. They’ve got as much reason to exist as anyone else. The AFL has more than enough if they need help. I’d bring Fitzroy back, add Tassie and have 20 teams. The hipsters would flock to the Roy’s and the comp would flourish. 
And Fock me there’s a few around here who forget our club voted to become the Dawks. We’ve been one of the leagues biggest basket cases in years gone by, would have you folded us?? Short memories around here. 

Edited May 1, 20241 yr by Roost it far

Just now, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Disagree, Eddie has done a lot for the game including struggling teams over the years including the Bulldogs and us. He’s well connected and cares about the future of the game.

OK Xander 👍

2 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

OK Xander 👍

Xander? I don’t get this.

 

Blumin hell, this kid is pretty extraordinary. No wonder they made him a leader at 19

Eddie is quoted as saying: 

"Non-Victorian presidents and some Victorian presidents, don't want to have 19 teams," McGuire said on Nine's Eddie and Jimmy podcast on Monday.

"There's an easy solution for this. One will go.”

Surely when all the club presidents voted on whether or not to admit Tasmania, the issue of 19 teams would have been raised, discussed and almost certainly a consensus solution reached as to how this would be resolved. There are only two solutions you’d think - get a 20th team or cut back to 18. And there would have had to have been consensus on the action before the vote was taken. For Eddie to come out now and say that out of nowhere a large number of presidents now do not want 19 teams is BS - or certainly not new. I’d suggest that the AFL and the current presidents know what action is likely to be taken. This is just Eddie trying to make himself relevant again. The dip-[censored] will never be relevant. 

7 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Disagree, Eddie has done a lot for the game including helping struggling teams over the years including the Bulldogs and us. He’s well connected and cares about the future of the game.

Eddie cares about Collingwood and pretty much Collingwood only.  

3 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Eddie cares about Collingwood and pretty much Collingwood only.  

So Xander is his son, thanks google. 
 

So all those years Queen's birthday was our home game. 
Numerous times he helped other clubs finding sponsorship.

But I get it, a lot of people don’t like him.

2 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Eddie cares about Collingwood and pretty much Collingwood only.  

Still lovingly remember the QB game about 6-7 years ago when he, Straughnie and Tony Shaw lined up to do a Pies flavoured commentary for the game (press red for Ed) and we smashed them. They looked like they’d had a death in the family and never did it again.

29 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Disagree, Eddie has done a lot for the game including helping struggling teams over the years including the Bulldogs and us. He’s well connected and cares about the future of the game.

Eddie has helped other clubs in much the same way a neighbour helps clean up some of the filth they threw over your fence when they realise the rats are crawling back into their yard.

Collingwood has been absolutely core to pushing the rationale that a club which generates revenue should get not only additional revenue generating opportunities (which actually diminishes rival's ability to bridge the gap... creating a vicious cycle of ever-increasing advantage that Marx would look at smugly) but also leverage that interest for favourable fixturing in a purely competitive sense. Nevermind that their ability and willingness to pay was a key driver of expansion/inflation pressures on club staffing.

 

Here, indeed, is Marx's actual reaction to the spiraling disparity created by a limited oligopoly of clubs accumulating further advantage over their rivals through the power of political economy in a poorly regulated market;

If Eddie was one of the Marx Brothers, his stage name would be Skid.

43 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

 

I thought that was Jake Lever for a split sec

3 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

The exact same was said about Melbourne and Hawthorn.

We've got short memories 

It was totally different, us and the hawks had much larger supporter bases then either Fitzroy or north, north just don't have the support to even get 50k, just have a look north are still small, and Fitzroy are gone, and both North and Fitzroy actually wanted to merge

3 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Disagree, Eddie has done a lot for the game including helping struggling teams over the years including the Bulldogs and us. He’s well connected and cares about the future of the game.

 

3 hours ago, ANG13 said:

Eddie cares about Collingwood and pretty much Collingwood only.  

 

3 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

So Xander is his son, thanks google. 
 

So all those years Queen's birthday was our home game. 
Numerous times he helped other clubs finding sponsorship.

But I get it, a lot of people don’t like him.

Eddie looked after other clubs when it gained Collingwood more.

"Giving" us Queens Bday ensured that Collingwood got another prime time, MCG game as an away game every year, getting them extra MCG games.

He also got to publically talk about all the things he did for other clubs, making them out as good deeds or sacrifices. Meanwhile they got everything they wanted in terms of draw exposure etc.

Don't think he did it for anyone other than Collingwood. Good negotiators find win win solutions not compromise or win lose situations. Meaning he got more than he would have otherwise.

13 hours ago, TassieDevil said:

 

Fair comment. I base my contentions on very little other than being Adelaide-born and sticking with the Demons when the Crows came in (like many friends, at a very ripe age for poaching - but I also attended every Adelaide game and was a Footy Park member). I also have mad Rioli-connected Hawks family in Darwin, but know they would switch teams in an instant, especially if the team was indig-focussed. Having also lived up north, I would expect many locals to jump on board, and every footy-starved 'Mexican' to declare official second-team status. 

5 hours ago, deanox said:

 

 

Eddie looked after other clubs when it gained Collingwood more.

"Giving" us Queens Bday ensured that Collingwood got another prime time, MCG game as an away game every year, getting them extra MCG games.

He also got to publically talk about all the things he did for other clubs, making them out as good deeds or sacrifices. Meanwhile they got everything they wanted in terms of draw exposure etc.

Don't think he did it for anyone other than Collingwood. Good negotiators find win win solutions not compromise or win lose situations. Meaning he got more than he would have otherwise.

Every year clubs put forward their wants in terms of the draw. Most Melbourne based clubs want to play Collingwood at the MCG as their home game. Rd 2 this year St.Kilda played their home game against them at the G. Essendon play them twice this year at the G. Rd 1 2023 Geelong played their home game against the Pies at the G then come finals regardless of opponent want to play in Geelong. 
 

We should be thankful Collingwood gave us the gate takings to QB for so many years in a row because it was our highest earning game for the year.