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Can’t believe what I just heard Dermie say on crunch time (well l can actually) he basically said that Oliver took short steps with Darcy Forgerty on the lead Thursday night.

Just a bit more fuel on the fire to stick it up these outdated media [censored]

How much more credibility can this dinosaur lose.

To suggest that Clarries effort was soft especially with all the concussion concerns now & one of his best mates forced into retirement is embarrassingly pathetic 

You would see a harder ball player than Clarry 
Oh yeah and then Tom Morris said that Kozzies action was similar to Maynard’s against Gus!!

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    He's a total di#khead.

    Having said that, I did notice that too. But I think Clarry's actions were quite reasonable. Getting concussed is not a great option. I think that this will become more common ... it doesn't need the media to call it out. 

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    10 minutes ago, Billy said:

    Can’t believe what I just heard Dermie say on crunch time (well l can actually) he basically said that Oliver took short steps with Darcy Forgerty on the lead Thursday night.

    Just a bit more fuel on the fire to stick it up these outdated media [censored]

    How much more credibility can this dinosaur lose.

    To suggest that Clarries effort was soft especially with all the concussion concerns now & one of his best mates forced into retirement is embarrassingly pathetic 

    You would see a harder ball player than Clarry 
    Oh yeah and then Tom Morris said that Kozzies action was similar to Maynard’s against Gus!!

    There were similarities in the action. That is a fact. Saying the are similarities is fine, they weren’t the same though. The differences are the Koz was much closer to Soligo when starting his action (so less reaction time) and the force was not even in the same ballpark.

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    I thought he could have spoiled too, but he is up there with Jack Viney as one of our toughest players.

    All the noise in the media regarding Kozzie, we know the AFL pick and choose what to suspend players for depending on who you are.

    Best way to shut em up? Keep winning. Us v them mentality.

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    I thought Clarry’s issue was more his hand and not wanting to spoil with it.

    But he’s also a strange player Oliver, he’ll charge at the ball through traffic but he doesn’t wear contact well. 

    When he’s not playing well he feels contact and dishes the ball with costly turnover handballs rather than absorbing tackles like Cripps does. Or Viney or Tracc.

    I’m not saying he’s not super brave, he’s just a different type of brave.

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    14 minutes ago, godees said:

    There were similarities in the action. That is a fact. Saying the are similarities is fine, they weren’t the same though. The differences are the Koz was much closer to Soligo when starting his action (so less reaction time) and the force was not even in the same ballpark.

    This won’t be popular but the biggest similarly is that both Soligo and Gus did very little to protect themselves. Players are so wary of bumping now they leave themselves open. If Soligo turned in to Pickett they bounce off each other with no worries 

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    Yep it was noticeable but I think its a bit much calling it short steps.  One of the tougher players I have seen at the Dees.

    Go Clarrie.

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    34 minutes ago, Billy said:

    Can’t believe what I just heard Dermie say on crunch time (well l can actually) he basically said that Oliver took short steps with Darcy Forgerty on the lead Thursday night.

    Just a bit more fuel on the fire to stick it up these outdated media [censored]

    How much more credibility can this dinosaur lose.

    To suggest that Clarries effort was soft especially with all the concussion concerns now & one of his best mates forced into retirement is embarrassingly pathetic 

    You would see a harder ball player than Clarry 
    Oh yeah and then Tom Morris said that Kozzies action was similar to Maynard’s against Gus!!

    Media is full of hot garbage!

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    Dermie is a complete numpty. I ignore him studiously. I reckon he would choke if he had to give the Dees any praise.

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    It's part of the narrative of middle-aged ex footballers chest beating about the 70s, 80s and 90s glory days by nit picking current players

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    3 minutes ago, BDA said:

    Dermie is a complete numpty. I ignore him studiously. I reckon he would choke if he had to give the Dees any praise.

    Surely he had a bitter pill to swallow on September 25, 2021. I hope he couldn't sleep that night 🤭

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    Dermie🤡 has always hated the Dees.  He misses so much obvious things.  Oliver couldn’t spoil due to his right hand which clearly is restricting him. Oliver has never taken short steps.  
     

    Note that 🤡Dermie also says the Blues lack for midfield runners and have only Cripps as a gun mid.  He has forgotten about a bloke called Sam Walsh and Adam Cerra.  Footy Expert? Hardly !!! 

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    1 minute ago, spirit of norm smith said:

    Dermie🤡 has always hated the Dees.  He misses so much obvious things.  Oliver couldn’t spoil due to his right hand which clearly is restricting him. Oliver has never taken short steps.  
     

    Note that 🤡Dermie also says the Blues lack for midfield runners and have only Cripps as a gun mid.  He has forgotten about a bloke called Sam Walsh and Adam Cerra.  Footy Expert? Hardly !!! 

    The guy is way past his use by date.

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    1 hour ago, Billy said:

    Can’t believe what I just heard Dermie say on crunch time (well l can actually) he basically said that Oliver took short steps with Darcy Forgerty on the lead Thursday night.

    Just a bit more fuel on the fire to stick it up these outdated media [censored]

    How much more credibility can this dinosaur lose.

    To suggest that Clarries effort was soft especially with all the concussion concerns now & one of his best mates forced into retirement is embarrassingly pathetic 

    You would see a harder ball player than Clarry 
    Oh yeah and then Tom Morris said that Kozzies action was similar to Maynard’s against Gus!!

    There's also the -what is for me - the main element. Which, as one commentator pointed out, had Oliver stood his ground, he would have hit Fogarty front on and been suspended. 

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    24 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

    The guy is way past his use by date.

    I always hated him: he should have served jail time for common assault many times: ditto Don Scott, Dipper, Matthews etc

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    31 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    It's part of the narrative of middle-aged ex footballers chest beating about the 70s, 80s and 90s glory days by nit picking current players

    Especially the ones who don't commit common assault on the football field.

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    1 hour ago, godees said:

    There were similarities in the action. That is a fact. Saying the are similarities is fine, they weren’t the same though. The differences are the Koz was much closer to Soligo when starting his action (so less reaction time) and the force was not even in the same ballpark.

    There's another difference.

    Koz copped a week.

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    38 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    It's part of the narrative of middle-aged ex footballers chest beating about the 70s, 80s and 90s glory days by nit picking current players

    Spot on.

    The football media is dominated by these boneheads.

    And what happens when one shuffles of to ABC special comments (eg McClure)?

    They get replaced by recently retired boneheads, who have zero public speaking skills, like hodge.

    Selwood is the latest. Just like Jonesy, he has been ok. But low bar.

    The recently retired players bring current knowledge about the game, which often makes them interesting.

    But the pattern is none continue to do any work to update their knowledge, so after 2-3 years they lose their value as people who are up with current trends eyc.

    But remain terrible public speakers.

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    If anything Clarry has come back going after more body contact this year. Watch the Bulldogs game where he sprints 100m of gut busting running collects the ball, smashes the bloke who gets in his way and passes to ANB who dribbles in through. 

    Anybody who goes after Clarry for click bait or publicity i write off. Dermie was tough but he is a moron. 

     

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    It may not be popular but he definitely shirked contact. Not saying he is soft but Fogarty is a few kegs short of a dump truck and there’s not many in the AFL that would have taken that hit.

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    2 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    It may not be popular but he definitely shirked contact. Not saying he is soft but Fogarty is a few kegs short of a dump truck and there’s not many in the AFL that would have taken that hit.

    It's interesting, I thought he took short steps too, but to be honest - 5 years a go, I would have thought 'he heard footsteps' - now as far as I am concerned - it's just duty of care these days.

    But you know... a narrative is just a narrative.

    You can't stop water from being wet, and nor can you stop Dermot from being...

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    8 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

    It may not be popular but he definitely shirked contact. Not saying he is soft but Fogarty is a few kegs short of a dump truck and there’s not many in the AFL that would have taken that hit.

    I am glad he didn’t initiate contact.

    There could have been a clash of heads and Clarry would have been suspended for choosing to bump.

    Take it to the bank.

    Smart move imo.

    Anyone questioning Clarry’s bravery is simply best ignored.

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    2 hours ago, Billy said:

    Oh yeah and then Tom Morris said that Kozzies action was similar to Maynard’s against Gus!!

    That's Just pure stupidity.

    As for Oliver perhaps the fact he's playing with one hand is a sign of his toughness.

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