44 minutes ago, demoncat said:

If Josh thinks we’re finishing 11th then lock us in for the flag - one of the worst footy ‘analysts’ going around at the moment 

I don't 100% disagree with him.

He raises the point (and as a recent 10 year player his opinion should carry some weight) that all these accumulated distractions and emergency meetings within the club could suck the energy out of the playing group.

Compare that to the pre seasons of challengers like Carlton or GWS where all you hear is hype, positivity and how much of a further leap they can take this year.

*edit - Waitering out for 8 weeks after I posted this*

We'll soon know if JJ has a point. We have a fairly brutal first 8 weeks with Sydney away, the AO double, Brisbane, Carlton and possibly Geelong who we usually have problems with.  

Edited January 12, 20241 yr by Bring-Back-Powell

1 hour ago, demoncat said:

If Josh thinks we’re finishing 11th then lock us in for the flag - one of the worst footy ‘analysts’ going around at the moment 

Yes for sure. Jenkins is just another 'clickbait merchant' from SEN.

Move on for gawds sake.

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I don't 100% disagree with him.

He raises the point (and as a recent 10 year player his opinion should carry some weight) that all these accumulated distractions and emergency meetings within the club could suck the energy out of the playing group.

Compare that to the pre seasons of challengers like Carlton or GWS where all you hear is hype, positivity and how much of a further leap they can take this year.

*edit - Waitering out for 8 weeks after I posted this*

We'll soon know if JJ has a point. We have a fairly brutal first 8 weeks with Sydney away, the AO double, Brisbane, Carlton and possibly Geelong who we usually have problems with.  

Look I understand his broader point about the potential impacts that the off field issues could have on the energy and mentality of the group 

But I also think the media and some supporters have greatly exaggerated how much the behaviour of two players - out of 40 odd - has or will impact the rest of the group 

Personally I back Max, Viney, Trac, Lever, Gus, ANB and Salem to continue to be the exemplary leaders they have been, as well as our club for continuing to create an environment where a vast majority of our players want to be a part of (see all of our recent resignings and ability to bring in talent from other clubs)

And to put us finishing 11th with no regard to the talent on our list that hasn’t seen us finish that low - outside of one horror injury riddled season - since 2016, and I’m not going to take him very seriously…

 

 

Edited January 12, 20241 yr by demoncat

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

 

Just another media fool, trying to stir the pot.

Open or shut, a window sounds like the starting point for a home base

The concept of a ‘premiership window’ is dated…

Collingwood finished 17th in 2021 and won a premiership 2 years later. Geelong won a premiership in 2009 and have been thereabouts ever since. 

let’s just hope we can bash through the utterly shocking hand we’ve been dealt (and contributed to ourselves) in the past 18 months and do something special.

On 11/01/2024 at 19:02, Sir Why You Little said:

What a load of self serving twaddle. 
I would have Kept Yze and said goodbye to Goodwin at the end of ‘23, Yep

Many Players have progressed to a point , but they don’t have the same drive (attitude) as has been there before. Too many Slow Starts 

Goodwin is a very stubborn man, particularly on Matchday, and that was a big factor in Adem leaving 

Take it or Leave, you have no idea Who or What i know about the MFC. 

2 Cups have been thrown away, you may accept that, that is entirely up to you, but i certainly don’t have to Parrot Fashion your views. 

Halleluiah!

 

 

On 11/01/2024 at 19:02, Sir Why You Little said:

What a load of self serving twaddle. 
I would have Kept Yze and said goodbye to Goodwin at the end of ‘23, Yep

Many Players have progressed to a point , but they don’t have the same drive (attitude) as has been there before. Too many Slow Starts 

Goodwin is a very stubborn man, particularly on Matchday, and that was a big factor in Adem leaving 

Take it or Leave, you have no idea Who or What i know about the MFC. 

2 Cups have been thrown away, you may accept that, that is entirely up to you, but i certainly don’t have to Parrot Fashion your views. 

Halleluiah! Also we wont get anywhere near it without Clarry, sorry to say

43 minutes ago, picket fence said:

 

 

Halleluiah! Also we wont get anywhere near it without Clarry, sorry to say

Oliver is irrelevant....he's made it that way... we've coped.

He's not an issue. 

Either folk understand that or don't. 

Strangely Footy is a team game. 

Its now all about how the controllers use the pawns.

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Oliver is irrelevant....he's made it that way... we've coped.

He's not an issue. 

Either folk understand that or don't. 

Strangely Footy is a team game. 

Its now all about how the controllers use the pawns.

You must be joking??! CLAYTON OLIVER is a superstar! Like Dusty is to Richtank, Bont is to dishlickers, Cripps is to Carltank..... 

He is our most influential player since Robby and RDB. Controllers use pawns? Yeah right but Oliver is the King! He also has not made it that way, and unless you know for a fact what issues he is dealing with, your comments are conjecture! Yeah I get the fact he wont play for a while BUT HE AINT IRRELEVANT....NEVER!

Is it just me or do most of the player reviews seem to reveal that most players were a little down on form? Yet we came so close.

I still think we are a lock for top four this year.

Time for a new glazier you say, I know a good one.

On 11/01/2024 at 13:09, 58er said:

And how are the grapes going to be?

If it keeps raining the grapes are going to be rotten. 

2 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

If it keeps raining the grapes are going to be rotten. 

Don’t worry they’ll just spray more fungicide on your precious grapes

16 hours ago, picket fence said:

You must be joking??! CLAYTON OLIVER is a superstar! Like Dusty is to Richtank, Bont is to dishlickers, Cripps is to Carltank..... 

He is our most influential player since Robby and RDB. Controllers use pawns? Yeah right but Oliver is the King! He also has not made it that way, and unless you know for a fact what issues he is dealing with, your comments are conjecture! Yeah I get the fact he wont play for a while BUT HE AINT IRRELEVANT....NEVER!

Youre comprehensive powers are failing you.

Hes irrelevant because hes not an if or a maybe. Very likely to not play this year the way it's pointing...  He didn't play a lot or to his previous eliteness  last year either.. Grass still grew ...and we move on.

What IS relevant is what you CAN do....not what you can't. 

On 12/01/2024 at 11:35, Ollie fan said:

Are you seriously saying that when Yze devised strategies of the "Viney goes to block Bont while Trac moves to the right...etc etc" (whichI assume is what the midfield coach does),  Goodwin would override him? Are you seriously saying that? If that were the case, no assistant in the league would work with him; no player would want to play under him - and yet the players have consistently signed long term contracts, people like McQualter come to work with him - and also, Richardson would let that happen?

 

 Please,  tell me you were joking.

Yes he is saying that even though it was well known Goody engages with the players from the bench whilst Yze took the reigns and called the shots from the coaches box on match day

18 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Oliver is irrelevant....he's made it that way... we've coped.

He's not an issue. 

Either folk understand that or don't. 

Strangely Footy is a team game. 

Its now all about how the controllers use the pawns.

Agree I have loved him from day 1 and believe he’s seriously underrated by non Demons. However I have no doubt with the knowledge the club has regarding Clarrys personal matters, planning will be very much based on scenarios where he isn’t in the line up. We’re better with him but 1 player doesn’t make a team especially when you have virtually an entire preseason to plan with him not being there.

If Clarry plays it’s a bonus and I’m very much a person who doesn’t worry about who I haven’t got and worries about who I have got.

Players and coaching staff I would think will have the same mindset 

7 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Is it just me or do most of the player reviews seem to reveal that most players were a little down on form? Yet we came so close.

I still think we are a lock for top four this year.

I don’t think we’re a lock, we need a lot of improvement in 

speed of ball movement 

forward entries and separation 

clearance and cbd spread

staying healthy is also vital

24 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

I don’t think we’re a lock, we need a lot of improvement in 

speed of ball movement 

forward entries and separation 

clearance and cbd spread

staying healthy is also vital

We do but I'm sticking to my guns and I'm backed up by some big international betting companies.

We will be top four come finals time.

In my view,  biased by red and blue   But

looking through the bottom of an amber glass or detritus of my red wine.

i think the window is opening. So there !!

I'll tell you 10 minutes into round 0.

If we are as angry and hungry as we should be, lookout.

If we arent,  well...

It’s going to be harder than last year. Collingwood, Brisbane, GWS, Port, Adelaide, Carlton, Sydney, Geelong all have the ability to win the flag. Then you’ve got St.Kilda, GC, Richmond, Fremantle, Hawthorn and Essendon all capable of beating anyone on their day. It’s going to be a gruelling year of football and if we’re not up for it mentally we’re cooked. 

48 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

It’s going to be harder than last year. Collingwood, Brisbane, GWS, Port, Adelaide, Carlton, Sydney, Geelong all have the ability to win the flag. Then you’ve got St.Kilda, GC, Richmond, Fremantle, Hawthorn and Essendon all capable of beating anyone on their day. It’s going to be a gruelling year of football and if we’re not up for it mentally we’re cooked. 

Not really much different from last year, it's very even, every side will struggle if they're not switched on.

4 minutes ago, loges said:

Not really much different from last year, it's very even, every side will struggle if they're not switched on.

Disagree, I think Geelong, Adelaide, GC and Fremantle will be a significantly greater threat to the top sides and Essendon and Hawthorn could easily win as many as they lose. I think the comp is in for a super even few years.

50 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Disagree, I think Geelong, Adelaide, GC and Fremantle will be a significantly greater threat to the top sides and Essendon and Hawthorn could easily win as many as they lose. I think the comp is in for a super even few years.

To state the bleedin' obvious every team , every game will need to be switched on. Blink or stall at start and it's catch up footy.

We've been notoriously bad starting many games...    I don't see this panning out well unless we address the simple faults.

I think your overview is pretty spot on.

Go Dees

( from the bounce....or go home)