Jibroni 5,058 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jaded No More said: What evidence do you have that Petty isn’t happy to stay and play for Melbourne? Channel 7 Adelaide, Kane Cornes and John Ralph. The sad part is that these clowns will be running the same story next year, like the WA media with Jackson and will annoy the [censored] out of us. 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 I think we all know that when you strip away all of the [censored] and the red and blue glasses are taken off of our faces, it’s pretty clear that Petty is going to end up at Adelaide this trade period. What a shame - I really don’t want to see him go But… There’s too much noise - simple. 3 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, McQueen said: I think we all know that when you strip away all of the [censored] and the red and blue glasses are taken off of our faces, it’s pretty clear that Petty is going to end up at Adelaide this trade period. What a shame - I really don’t want to see him go But… There’s too much noise - simple. Yeah, i tend to agree to be honest, I don't think this one is over. if he does go i wouldn't sign off on less than 10, 14 and McAdam. if we're losing Petty lets at least make sure we get Harley Reid out of it 6,10,11 should get the deal done you'd imagine 1 Quote
McQueen 17,867 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dwight Schrute said: Yeah, i tend to agree to be honest, I don't think this one is over. if he does go i wouldn't sign off on less than 10, 14 and McAdam. if we're losing Petty lets at least make sure we get Harley Reid out of it 6,10,11 should get the deal done you'd imagine To me it all just seems a little too contrived. I hope I’m wrong and @Dannyz is right. Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,831 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, adonski said: If we can get the necessary picks to satisfy WCE for pick 1, reckon we trade him Had a feeling this would be the case. Not a good sign if we are having breakfast with the enemy. Edited October 13, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 I just can't see us trading a young key position player without an adequate replacement. Petty out means a backline of May, Lever and Tomlinson and a fwd line of JvR and hope that Brown or McDonald don't fall apart. Maybe fullarton. We kiss any chance of a premiership success goodbye imo, he is that important. We're only taking two picks to the draft anyway and I'm not sure pick 10 helps us get Reid. Just because Adelaide want him doesn't mean we should bow to their wishes and shoot ourselves in the foot in the process. 12 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,831 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) I love Petty to bits, i want him to stay as do all us Demons, but I reckon Petty knows deep down he's one injury away from screwing his future up here. Was the deal 5 years, 1m the first year then 800k the next four? Will this offer be there for him in 1-2 years time? I don't reckon it will be. He's stated he wants to come back to Adelaide. Im looking at this from a different lens here, I believe his Partner is from Adelaide? also if they want to start a family in the next 3-4 years his partners parents are going to be helping out part of the time would he get that help in Melbourne with no family? No way. He is very injury prone, he was injured twice this year playing as a Forward, a significant history with injuries. If he gets injured again his value will significantly drop from a draft point of view, if he's going to leave next year we won't see this deal again If this offer from the Crows is Thilthorpe or Fogarty, Pick 10 and McAdam for Petty if it eventuates take it and run i say. I'd even squeeze them for pick 14 aswell and throw in Neal Bullen or Chandler. Edited October 13, 2023 by YesitwasaWin4theAges 2 1 Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said: I love Petty to bits, i want him to stay as do all us Demons, but I reckon Petty knows deep down he's one injury away from screwing his future up here. Was the deal 5 years, 1m the first year then 800k the next four? Will this offer be there for him in 1-2 years time? I don't reckon it will be. He's stated he wants to come back to Adelaide. Im looking at this from a different lens here, I believe his Partner is from Adelaide? also if they want to start a family in the next 3-4 years his partners parents are going to be helping out part of the time would he get that help in Melbourne with no family? No way. He is very injury prone, he was injured twice this year playing as a Forward, a significant history with injuries. If he gets injured again his value will significantly drop from a draft point of view, if he's going to leave next year we won't see this deal again If this offer from the Crows is Thilthorpe or Fogarty, Pick 10 and McAdam for Petty if it eventuates take it and run i say. I'd even squeeze them for pick 14 aswell and throw in Neal Bullen or Chandler. Problem is they won't give up either of those players. Both are from Adelaide and both are contracted. This is a massive free-kick to Adelaide if we let him walk. Plus their original offer was pick 14 which was our pick. I don't even think we can legally receive that back. But if we can, they bought that from the Gold Coast Suns for two mid 20s picks. Petty is worth more than that. Particularly to us with limited key position depth. 1 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,831 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Nascent said: Problem is they won't give up either of those players. Both are from Adelaide and both are contracted. This is a massive free-kick to Adelaide if we let him walk. Plus their original offer was pick 14 which was our pick. I don't even think we can legally receive that back. But if we can, they bought that from the Gold Coast Suns for two mid 20s picks. Petty is worth more than that. Particularly to us with limited key position depth. I would only except on those terms. If they want him that much they will come to the party. We have tried for Fogarty before. If we do this we will get Reid, plus a Forward Fogarty and McAdam. Quote
Nascent 9,345 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said: I would only except on those terms. If they want him that much they will come to the party. We have tried for Fogarty before. If we do this we will get Reid, plus a Forward Fogarty and McAdam. That's a different conversation that I would probably be willing to accept. 1 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said: They only drink Barry’s tea in Munster, McKenna being from Ulster I’d hazard a guess would be a Lyons Tea man we need a new thread for this topic 2 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Every non MFC supporter is wondering who TF petty is 1 6 Quote
Demon Disciple 12,537 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, DubDee said: Every non MFC supporter is wondering who TF petty is I’m pretty sure Tigers fans would know 1 1 Quote
DubDee 26,682 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 If we lost Petty for picks and are playing Fullarton every game it’s rebuild time mini rebuild. 4-5 top quality draft picks over two years then bang. or whimper. i dunno Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,831 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Nascent said: That's a different conversation that I would probably be willing to accept. I think this is the reason it hasn't been put to bed yet, we are seriously still contemplating this. Quote
Dee-monic 620 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 Petty is 23, is already at elite level at either end of the field and has his best years ahead of him. I know his current lisfranc problem is worrying but every AFL player runs the ever-present risk of injury. I am sure the club will be doing its best to tie him to a long-term contract by the end of next season. And if he has an outstanding season in 2024 he can stay with us and still demand the big bucks. Like any other outsider, I have no inside knowledge of his personal thoughts but I really hope he decides to become a one-club player. We missed him badly in the finals. 2 1 Quote
Rab D Nesbitt 8,966 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Pennant St Dee said: They only drink Barry’s tea in Munster, McKenna being from Ulster I’d hazard a guess would be a Lyons Tea man I stand corrected, Pennant St! I lived in Leinster for a bit but being a coffee drinker didn't take much notice. 1 Quote
Rednblueriseing 868 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 4 hours ago, DubDee said: If we lost Petty for picks and are playing Fullarton every game it’s rebuild time mini rebuild. 4-5 top quality draft picks over two years then bang. or whimper. i dunno No way do the deal for picks alone... must get a forward... Fogarty and whatever picks give us pick 1 all tied up in the same deal.. So Crows get Petty Dee's get Fogarty, Reid WCE get pick 6, 10,11 Quote
Wrecker46 3,130 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 5 hours ago, DubDee said: Every non MFC supporter is wondering who TF petty is I'd prefer it stayed that way but its hard to fly under the radar when you are a premiership CHB at 21 and kick bags of goals when you go forward 1 1 Quote
dazzledavey36 56,347 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, McQueen said: I think we all know that when you strip away all of the [censored] and the red and blue glasses are taken off of our faces, it’s pretty clear that Petty is going to end up at Adelaide this trade period. What a shame - I really don’t want to see him go But… There’s too much noise - simple. I agree with you here. I think there's a bit to play out with this. There is enough smoke out there to suggest that Petty has strongly considered returning home. 9 hours ago, Jaded No More said: What evidence do you have that Petty isn’t happy to stay and play for Melbourne? If he doesn’t come out and ask for a trade then he’s clearly very comfortable and committed to stay. You don't need to be unhappy in wanting to go nor do you need to officially request a trade, Grundy never formally requested a trade from either Collingwood or Melbourne. Probably just simply wants to be closer to home which is a not an issue imo. The fact that it still had to take Simon Goodwin to actually sit down with him and convince him otherwise suggest he's has had serious considerations. Quote
Guest Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Nascent said: I just can't see us trading a young key position player without an adequate replacement. WC: ..... Darling? Would you be tempted by 10, Adelaide F1 and McAdam for Petty. Then 6, 10, 11 to WC for Reid and Darling. Deathride 2.0 Quote
BW511 2,730 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 9 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said: I love Petty to bits, i want him to stay as do all us Demons, but I reckon Petty knows deep down he's one injury away from screwing his future up here. Was the deal 5 years, 1m the first year then 800k the next four? Will this offer be there for him in 1-2 years time? I don't reckon it will be. He's stated he wants to come back to Adelaide. Im looking at this from a different lens here, I believe his Partner is from Adelaide? also if they want to start a family in the next 3-4 years his partners parents are going to be helping out part of the time would he get that help in Melbourne with no family? No way. He is very injury prone, he was injured twice this year playing as a Forward, a significant history with injuries. If he gets injured again his value will significantly drop from a draft point of view, if he's going to leave next year we won't see this deal again If this offer from the Crows is Thilthorpe or Fogarty, Pick 10 and McAdam for Petty if it eventuates take it and run i say. I'd even squeeze them for pick 14 aswell and throw in Neal Bullen or Chandler. I think this works from the club’s perspective as well as Harrison’s. They might never get this currency for Petts again. For all the same reasons listed, it makes sense for both parties Quote
RedBlueandTrue 359 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 I'd be very suprised if the offer was anything more than 10 + 20 + McAdam, which I don't think we accept. If fogarty or THRILLTHORPE are involved then you have to look at it, but I would be shocked if this is the case. That sort of trade just doesn't really happen. While we know how good Petty is, we are also likely undervaluing the potential of someone like thilthorpe in the same way other clubs and non-dees following media figures undervalue Petty. Quote
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted October 13, 2023 Posted October 13, 2023 You don’t trade very good players who are under contract at less than their worth unless you get a massive overs. The draft is a lottery and good recruiting teams can find players without premium picks. 6 1 Quote
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