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From what I have observed over the past two seasons, our team seems to be playing under a heavy burden: there’s not a lot of ‘lightness’ around the place. I wonder if the culture agenda has been over-thought at the expense of players simply enjoying footy under a good system, as in 2021.

I don’t hold out great hope for 2024 - I think the Clarry situation will not easily be resolved, in terms of him being back to his previous best. I know we’re not supposed to mention the war, but I think what’s needed for 2024 is a united team, playing with a bit of freedom.

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5 hours ago, 58er said:

While I respect what you have written I font like the nature now that you can’t reveal what the actions are. 

If it’s Maysie at the BAndF and this debate has continued I don’t have an issue with that. I believe speaking the hard truths is the only way to resolve some issues. Perhaps the public nature doesn’t sit with everyone but really by next season ( actually pre season commences) the Club will have discussed all the issues and a way forward implemented. 

More  likely you are referring to a star player and his situation snd as it has been requested that privacy be given you are like me bound to refrain from further comment. It is ongoing so here’s hoping about its income being positive. 

I have faith in the Club handling it despite your concern. Some events have been prior to recent and can’t be loaded into todays fish and chip wrappers comments. 

I fully expect a 2021 attitude will be back starting from our training blocks in late November. Nothing less will be required for us to climb the mountain again successfully. 

58er, not Maysie. The last sentence may be more of a clarifier.

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On 22/10/2023 at 20:15, Return to Glory said:

Whilst Oliver and Smith need to really grow up, the club should immediately tackle a particular player who I understand has negatively impacted the culture of the club. I know that's 'Big Footy Scandals' speak, but that's my understanding and I'm conscious of what can and cannot be said on Demonland. The last three weeks have been a car crash.

Car Crash?? Hnmmm!

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Could not agree more @3183 Dee. The boys to me don’t seem to be enjoying what they are doing when out on the footy field. Whatever happened to simply having fun?

Our ‘systems’ are so rigid, it allows for little enjoyment. It was quite noticeable to me this year, almost as if the fear of losing was greater than the motivation of winning.

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I'd like petrol prices under $2 a litre, a Hella Mega Tour announcement, and probably to lose a few more kgs.

Oh I'd also like Ryley Sanders and James Leake as our picks for 6 & 11. Mick Stinear to play a role with our men's team, and Mick Warner and Mark Robinson to be sued by Goodwin after we win the flag.

... I'm not fussy.

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22 hours ago, picket fence said:

Car Crash?? Hnmmm!

I don’t think the car crash reference means anything. I think RtG is saying it’s something that’s happened in the last three weeks, which explains why it’s not about Maysie.

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16 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I don’t think the car crash reference means anything. I think RtG is saying it’s something that’s happened in the last three weeks, which explains why it’s not about Maysie.

So WCW What the heck else has gone down?

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15 hours ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Ha, ha, time to take if the beer Goggles. Last two years it is pretty obvious.

what, you mean when he's not been injured he's been - by some margin - the best ruckman in the game and a captain of a side that's been in the top four pretty much the entire time, and a universally admired and respected part of aflm by internal, opposition, and media?

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1 hour ago, whatwhat say what said:

what, you mean when he's not been injured he's been - by some margin - the best ruckman in the game and a captain of a side that's been in the top four pretty much the entire time, and a universally admired and respected part of aflm by internal, opposition, and media?

Viney showed more leadership this year than Gawn. He has had his run, him a Goodwin have let the ship drift. That is my opinion, this is a forum, so stuff it up your rear end soon shine.

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11 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Viney showed more leadership this year than Gawn. He has had his run, him a Goodwin have let the ship drift. That is my opinion, this is a forum, so stuff it up your rear end soon shine.

well, you know what they say about opinions... son shine / sunshine, rear end, etc. etc....

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1) Goal kicking accuracy in the crunch games. It's all well and good to kick 22.7 against North or 19.12 against West Coast in low pressure early season games, but when the heat's on we were found wanting in this area. Badly.

The only finalists that got away with inaccuracy were GWS in the semi and Collingwood in the GF but they had midfielders and forwards that kicked the clutch goals that we could not in our finals.

2) Midfield accountability. Two games we lost directly because the oppo's star midfielder took direct control of a game of footy. One of them was the 3 point Port loss in round 10 where Butters had 41 touches and 2 goals in driving wet. The other was the Carlton 2 point semi loss where Walsh had 34 touches and 2 goals (insane stats for a high stakes final) including allowing him to kick a goal within the first minute of the last quarter which erased out third quarter ascendancy. If neither of these events occur, we win these games due to the close nature of them

Beat Port and we finish second. Or failing that, beat Carlton and we're off to Brisbane. So very costly.

I'm sure there is a shopping list of other items we need for next year, but these two stick out for me.

 

 

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Max will be 32 next year and playing solo ruck, it’s not exactly ground breaking to say he’s now at an age where his main focus should be individual performance. Hopefully he’s dealing with a new born and another kid too.

Viney, Tracc and Lever are the guys who are in the right age range to be captain. 

It’s not unreasonable to suggest one or more of those guys should take over the title whilst Max stays as a vital leader in certain ways.

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4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Max will be 32 next year and playing solo ruck, it’s not exactly ground breaking to say he’s now at an age where his main focus should be individual performance. Hopefully he’s dealing with a new born and another kid too.

Viney, Tracc and Lever are the guys who are in the right age range to be captain. 

It’s not unreasonable to suggest one or more of those guys should take over the title whilst Max stays as a vital leader in certain ways.

Agreed on the captaincy. Max is contracted through 2025 and himself said he can't see himself playing beyond this contract. That means he's got two seasons left and will be 34/35 when he retires. It's reasonable to assume he hands off captaincy soon.

Lever is our most rounded leader and has been for years. He's the general, an on field coach, a vocal leader at training also setting standards, handles off field and media well. Personally I'd make him captain with Max or Viney vice.

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On 28/10/2023 at 18:37, 3183 Dee said:

I’ll be interested, also, to see how the coaching change (Yze 🔁 McQualter) will affect things.

This coaching change is the biggest watch for me. Our midfield has elite top end talent, but hasn't maximised it the past two years. A fresh voice and mind to structure ours mids differently could push us back into a dominant team. We lost our centre stoppage impact this year, but more importantly we actually got beat up there defensively. Seeing Carlton late in the season pile on 3 quick centre bounce goals against us when the game was on the line was heartbreaking. The ball movement through the midfield needs a refresh too, so McQualter could be our biggest trump card this coming season.

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6 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Agreed on the captaincy. Max is contracted through 2025 and himself said he can't see himself playing beyond this contract. That means he's got two seasons left and will be 34/35 when he retires. It's reasonable to assume he hands off captaincy soon.

Lever is our most rounded leader and has been for years. He's the general, an on field coach, a vocal leader at training also setting standards, handles off field and media well. Personally I'd make him captain with Max or Viney vice.

Agree with Lever. Would actually be a shock if he isn't our next captain

He's the media's go to man and represents our club in impressive fashion on and off field. 

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