39 minutes ago, tiers said:

It might be a football act (so is bumping and tackling) but it can still be reckless, careless and dangerous. Becoming a 90kg projectile of his own volition and then pretending to be "sweet and innocent" is an offensive insult. The tribunal not calling it a bump but something else, when in fact it was, is a legal and factual nonsense. The AFL not appealing is an abominationj for our great game of footy.

Shame on them all. It is time to rise up and stick it up them. Where is EJ to act as our leader when we need him?

sorry for my ignorance but who is ej

ej whitten?

oj's brother?

EJ Whitten's catch cry was "stick it up 'em".

5 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

sorry for my ignorance but who is ej

ej whitten?

oj's brother?

ok, right.  i got flummoxed by reference to our leader

 

2 hours ago, Teufelmann said:

Quite to the contrary, Messiah – your “simple“ analysis is spot on. In my view, the relevant decision the tribunal should’ve been focused on was that by Maynard when he launched himself forcefully into the air in such a way that contact between the lower part of his body, and the upper part of Brayshaw‘s body walls at the very least likely, if not probable. At this point, he effectively loses control of his trajectory towards Brayshaw and, at the last instant, alters, his own posture (not his trajectory), in order to minimise the impact to himself of the violent collision his voluntary action has brought about. Apropos his duty of care either you decide not to launch yourself in this manner, or it is incumbent upon you to minimise the likely forceful contact your action has caused. The frisbee analogy (i.e. becoming an uncontrolled missile) should’ve been used in cross-examination of the Collingwood expert as evidence against Maynard. The notion that Maynard, who is undisputed objective is to impede the progress of the ball, did not align himself with the undeviating trajectory of Brayshaw‘s progress, is nonsensical. How else would he have impeded the progress of the ball, given that Brayshaw  gives every indication of kicking in the direction his body is travelling (i.e. as opposed to, for example , where his back is to the goal, and he is trying to kick around his body, in which case the kicking leg and the other parts of the body would present distinguishable targets to the potential spoiler ).The proposition that any deviation by Brayshaw at the instant before contact was the reason the two players came into violent collision, defies the logic of what Maynard was attempting to do. 
In my view, the league’s election not to challenge this contentious, and I believe flawed, decisionis highly dubious. The fact that this situation will be reviewed postseason indicates that it was not an acceptable “football action” and should have drawn a sanction, even under the present understanding of what constitutes a “careless“ action.

 

Welcome to LALA land

43 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Rule Change (not sure how the AFL have managed to not have such a rule already considering the NRL’s position)

”If a player leaves the ground while moving toward another player the onus is on him to ensure he avoids any high contact.”

I wish the AFL would just be quiet and not try attempt to support/ justify  the tribunal’s decision. 

The AFL’s response has done nothing to earn the respect of the MFC or  a decent number of the wider football community, including parents.

I agree a suspension of Maynard wouldn’t have achieved  much but a suspension of Maynard and a couple of rule changes might have.

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

sorry for my ignorance but who is ej

ej whitten?

oj's brother?

EJ was Mr football a champion

3 hours ago, Monbon said:

Malcolm Blight has also come out as a total [censored]: he shot off at people who don't believe it was a 'football act'. 

 

Blight got sacked by every club he was involved with he is a total nutter

Looking at it from another angle. The following is a true statement;

Since Craig McCrae took over at Collingwood, there is a ~5% chance per game that Brayden Maynard knocks someone unconscious in some form of 'spoiling attempt'.

Maynard is only 26, so we can look forward to another four or five of these at least.

1 hour ago, GM11 said:

Couldn't believe what i was hearing from him after his vehemence in the days prior.

Just another suck-up like the rest.

 

I swear, Whateley is just a fence-straddling robot...more interested in process, language and appearance than anything of actual substance or import.    

35 minutes ago, leucopogon said:

I swear, Whateley is just a fence-straddling robot...more interested in process, language and appearance than anything of actual substance or import.    

Whateley is part of the clown shoes brigade….I’ve just described 95% of the footy media. 

Edited September 14, 20231 yr by Superunknown

2 hours ago, tiers said:

EJ Whitten's catch cry was "stick it up 'em".

Yeah, maybe, but from what I understand he also played like a thug, so I'm not sure he'd be of much use in the current circumstances.  He'd probably fall in behind the Jono Brown Neanderthal 'can't avoid these incidents in football' brigade.

But I agree with everything else in your other post tiers.

Edited September 14, 20231 yr by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

I’m still angry. 

Eddie’s McTooManyBurgers Maguire’s celebration didn’t help 

3 hours ago, leucopogon said:

I swear, Whateley is just a fence-straddling robot...more interested in process, language and appearance than anything of actual substance or import.    

I don't listen any more but a very poor replacement of KB.  But better at fence sitting which suits the AFL agenda of "wherever possible don't upset the apple cart, keep the status quo pls"

Jumps on band wagons every other week and a huge Carlton fan boy which usually over rides any neutrality when assessing their performance etc.

Edited September 14, 20231 yr by Demon Dynasty

6 hours ago, Monbon said:

Malcolm Blight has also come out as a total [censored]: he shot off at people who don't believe it was a 'football act'. 

 

Blight by name.... Blight by nature....

I'm drained by the week already. Can't remember the last time I felt bad so long after a loss, usually a 24-48 hour turnaround. 

We're all gonna have to switch to game mode now. What's done is done.

What role does Maynard's father have at the club?

1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Yeah, maybe, but from what I understand he also played like a thug, so I'm not sure he'd be of much use in the current circumstances.

EJ was too good to need to play as a thug. He had skill, strength, flair, footy smarts and a desire to win in a regularly losing side. But for his role as the umpires shadow, he might have won a Brownlow.

His best mates in footy were the champions of his time, the sort of champions who would cross the street to avoid real thugs (eg Maynard) who had none of their abilities. But, yes, he was tough and could dish it out as well as take it.

1 minute ago, layzie said:

I'm drained by the week already. Can't remember the last time I felt bad so long after a loss, usually a 24-48 hour turnaround. 

We're all gonna have to switch to game mode now. What's done is done.

Totally agree. We must focus on Carlton. The decision has been made & nothing will change. 

We have a massive game to prepare for 

Gill said this today: "Our response is that if there's no avenues to appeal then let's actually look at the incident and see if there's tweaks or modifications or opportunities to change the rules or modify them so that we can do our very best to protect the health and wellbeing of our players on the field."

In other words, next year it will be deemed a 'Footy crime', but you're still okay to attack an oncoming player who has just kicked and knock him senseless.

 

I f...ing give up!!!!!!! The AFL  is total CR.P!

Would have been good if Jordan Lewis stood up for Gus. 

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Would have been good if Jordan Lewis stood up for Gus. 

Remember he was part of the Hawthorn Hit Squad.

3 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Would have been good if Jordan Lewis stood up for Gus. 

True colours ....wee and poo ;)

3 minutes ago, Monbon said:

Gill said this today: "Our response is that if there's no avenues to appeal then let's actually look at the incident and see if there's tweaks or modifications or opportunities to change the rules or modify them so that we can do our very best to protect the health and wellbeing of our players on the field."

In other words, next year it will be deemed a 'Footy crime', but you're still okay to attack an oncoming player who has just kicked and knock him senseless.

 

I f...ing give up!!!!!!! The AFL  is total CR.P!

This is p--s weak from Gill. Really poor. So essentially he's admitting that, currently, the AFL is not doing its best to protect the health and wellbeing of its players on the field. Talk about ammunition for the class action law suit.   

I wonder why 'Green Demon' is vomiting. Maybe he could care to enlighten us. Or maybe we should call an ambulance?

Edited September 14, 20231 yr by Monbon

1 minute ago, Monbon said:

I wonder why 'Green Demon' is vomiting. Maybe he could care to enlighten us. 

I think he is vomiting due to Gil's comments.