POSTGAME: Rd 21 vs North Melbourne

[Adam The God 30,261]

13 hours ago, JimmyGadson said:

I think you should tread water a bit more Binners. Remember our old battles regarding your mate Oscar McDonald, who you would defend to the death. Even after he was delisted?! You were like the black knight in the Python's holy grail. 

And didn't you think Weideman was gonna be a star, Steve? Not sure you have the higher ground here...

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On 8/7/2023 at 1:58 PM, ElDiablo14 said:

By the way I don't know if it's just me but in terms of engagement with the cheer squad, our boys are the best!

Speaking of which, we debuted a new chant on Sunday. It was composed by Ben, our 9yo chant leader in the making and son of Sophie. It’s sung after a Tracc goal. Let’s hope we’ll be singing it many, many times in the next few weeks. 

https://streamable.com/dr7ph6

The lyrics are:

🎶 He’s better than Daics,

He’s better than Daics,

Christian Petracca…

He’s better than Daics 🎶

The above shows Ben striking up the chant. Tracc and Chin were near us and turned around and smiled. Engagement with us during a match is Gold. ❤️💙

[ElDiablo14 4,999]

14 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Speaking of which, we debuted a new chant on Sunday. It was composed by Ben, our 9yo chant leader in the making and son of Sophie. It’s sung after a Tracc goal. Let’s hope we’ll be singing it many, many times in the next few weeks. 

https://streamable.com/dr7ph6

The lyrics are:

🎶 He’s better than Daics,

He’s better than Daics,

Christian Petracca…

He’s better than Daics 🎶

The above shows Ben striking up the chant. Tracc and Chin were near us and turned around and smiled. Engagement with us during a match is Gold. ❤️💙

That kid sure knows his footy 

Trac much better than the Daicoses

[Demonland 72,213]

Josh Jenkins doesn't rate the Demons.

 

[SFebes 4,884]

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Josh Jenkins doesn't rate the Demons.

 

The feeling is mutual with Josh too.

Edited August 8, 2023 by SFebes

[binman 42,986]

45 minutes ago, A F said:

And didn't you think Weideman was gonna be a star, Steve? Not sure you have the higher ground here...

Went out on a limb did steve on Sam, who was a top 10 draft pick.

Sammy still has to play 13 games to play more AFL games than Omac, who went at pick 53.

Should get there. But I wouldn’t put my house on it.

And IIRC Steve and I also debated nibbler's value too......

[Fromgotowoewodin 1,606]

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

Josh Jenkins doesn't rate the Demons.

 

Geez he’s a dunce. Never had a thought he didn’t read somewhere else first 

[The heart beats true 18,128]

8 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Josh Jenkins doesn't rate the Demons.

 

Our biggest lost in 15 rounds is 15 points. We get no credit for being in games so consistently. Why’s that? Because we’ve been doing it for 3 solid years.

Footy commentators hate consistency. Gives them no story to blow out of proportion.

[jnrmac 20,090]

15 minutes ago, binman said:

Sammy still has to play 13 games to play more AFL games than Omac, who went at pick 53.

Should get there. But I wouldn’t put my house on it.

And IIRC Steve and I also debated nibbler's value too......

Who could forget your poster child OMac  😀

[binman 42,986]

5 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Who could forget your poster child OMac  😀

Don't mention the war...

Edited August 8, 2023 by binman

[sue 9,107]

2 hours ago, Ouch! said:

....Also, is it just me or are umpires who throw the ball up, seemingly throwing the ball up towards the rucks rather than throwing it directly up in the air and backing away from the throw? 

I've noticed that too.  I expect it makes it easier for the umpire to get clear of the ruckmen, but it must make some difference to the players as the ball isn't coming vertically down now.

As for the failed bounces, my beef is the inconsistency of recalling it.  Of all the things the umpires can reasonably be excused for not being consistent (due the difficult nature of the game), this would be the easiest to get consistent.

Since the AFL hasn't explained why the ball is not bounced after a 666 infringement, I think we can expect the bounce to disappear within a few years unless there is a strong protest.

[Roost it far 8,277]

45 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Josh Jenkins doesn't rate the Demons.

 

Josh is, like almost all football journalists, not very smart. He attempts to look smart in a common way, by choosing the opposite view of most others. (Kind of like the bulk of the anti vax movement) What this does is give Josh some extra attention, which keeps him on the radio and puts food on his table. Thus enabling him to continue trotting out, well not much really. Listen to your brain cells dying as they listen to him. 

[Skuit 10,031]

While no one would argue that our forward-line looks like a well-oiled machine, we're still third for points scored this year, and with a better defensive record than the two teams ahead of us. And it's not like our mids are contributing all that much, bar Petracca in a hybrid role. Gawndy have been good for 20 (many of those as part of our forward set up), and Viney and Sparrow have together chipped in about 15. Reality is, our forwards have kicked a lot of goals this year between them. I suppose one needs to consider i50 conversion, but that's a function of our game plan. 

[Demonstone 22,558]

1 hour ago, sue said:

I think we can expect the bounce to disappear within a few years unless there is a strong protest.

After long being a traditionalist and a strong supporter of its retention as a unique feature of our game, I've changed my mind on the bounce.

I now realise that it's a very difficult feat to perform (a possible disincentive for potential new umpires) and I think there are too many dud bounces needing to be recalled which spoils the flow of play.

I doubt that, before too long, we'd even notice it was gone if the umpires simply threw the ball up (just like they do everywhere else on the ground).

[deelusions from afar 1,810]

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Josh is, like almost all football journalists, not very smart. He attempts to look smart in a common way, by choosing the opposite view of most others. (Kind of like the bulk of the anti vax movement) What this does is give Josh some extra attention, which keeps him on the radio and puts food on his table. Thus enabling him to continue trotting out, well not much really. Listen to your brain cells dying as they listen to him. 

I'm definitely not going into bat for Josh Jenkins as i don't think I've ever heard him say anything special as an analyst.

However, he's not wrong on a few things:

• With Petty's injury, the forward line IS still a question mark.  I'm not overly concerned as 2021 showed that if the other parts of our game are in check then that's more important.  We've got a few weeks to work out if its Smith / Grundy / BBB / Tmac.
• Brisbane had us on toast.  However they have since lost Ashcroft and we will still get Oliver and Fritsch back - and more importantly, we found a way.

The mainstream footy media love the knee jerk reactions (and anyone with opposing views to generate debate) but the reality is the finals are still a few weeks away - watch whoever wins in our match this week become the number 1 favourite next week.

[Jjrogan 1,420]

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

Josh is, like almost all football journalists, not very smart. He attempts to look smart in a common way, by choosing the opposite view of most others. (Kind of like the bulk of the anti vax movement) What this does is give Josh some extra attention, which keeps him on the radio and puts food on his table. Thus enabling him to continue trotting out, well not much really. Listen to your brain cells dying as they listen to him. 

Collingwood are still favourites for the flag at most venues, so one could also contend he is following the pack tho.  His concerns are no more than what's written here on these pages daily. 

[Nascent 9,215]

15 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

After long being a traditionalist and a strong supporter of its retention as a unique feature of our game, I've changed my mind on the bounce.

I now realise that it's a very difficult feat to perform (a possible disincentive for potential new umpires) and I think there are too many dud bounces needing to be recalled which spoils the flow of play.

I doubt that, before too long, we'd even notice it was gone if the umpires simply threw the ball up (just like they do everywhere else on the ground).

I'd be happy with a bounce to start every quarter then thrown up at all other times.

[Ouch! 2,263]

21 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

After long being a traditionalist and a strong supporter of its retention as a unique feature of our game, I've changed my mind on the bounce.

I now realise that it's a very difficult feat to perform (a possible disincentive for potential new umpires) and I think there are too many dud bounces needing to be recalled which spoils the flow of play.

I doubt that, before too long, we'd even notice it was gone if the umpires simply threw the ball up (just like they do everywhere else on the ground).

Just make sure they throw the ball up, not up and in front of the ump by 5 meters so they don't need to exit the space. Might as well get a boundary umpire to throw it up instead.

[Skuit 10,031]

33 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

• Brisbane had us on toast.  However they have since lost Ashcroft and we will still get Oliver and Fritsch back - and more importantly, we found a way.

If Collingwood had snuck in another late goal against us on King's Birthday do you think any commentator would be dismissing that win? No, it would speak to their brilliance in reining in another contender. See vs Port. 

[Roost it far 8,277]

8 minutes ago, Skuit said:

If Collingwood had snuck in another late goal against us on King's Birthday do you think any commentator would be dismissing that win? No, it would speak to their brilliance in reining in another contender. See vs Port. 

We should of beat Brisbane earlier in the last quarter. We kicked 4.5 to 1.1. Could easily have kicked 7.2. Some easy misses

[layzie 33,814]

3 hours ago, The heart beats true said:

Our biggest lost in 15 rounds is 15 points. We get no credit for being in games so consistently. Why’s that? Because we’ve been doing it for 3 solid years.

Footy commentators hate consistency. Gives them no story to blow out of proportion.

But they loved the consistency of Collingwood's comebacks didn't they!

Us staying in games is easily as impressive as that.

[binman 42,986]

50 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

I'm definitely not going into bat for Josh Jenkins as i don't think I've ever heard him say anything special as an analyst.

However, he's not wrong on a few things:

• With Petty's injury, the forward line IS still a question mark.  I'm not overly concerned as 2021 showed that if the other parts of our game are in check then that's more important.  We've got a few weeks to work out if its Smith / Grundy / BBB / Tmac.
• Brisbane had us on toast.  However they have since lost Ashcroft and we will still get Oliver and Fritsch back - and more importantly, we found a way.

The mainstream footy media love the knee jerk reactions (and anyone with opposing views to generate debate) but the reality is the finals are still a few weeks away - watch whoever wins in our match this week become the number 1 favourite next week.

Fair points.

But what do you think he might have said about the pies if they had come from 5 goals down with 7 mins to go?

Tbat was a seriously impressive win - stronger for longer and massive belief.

In fact we might look back at that win as a critical step in out journey to a flag - one because of the belief it instilled (do we hold of the crows the next week if we lose that match?) and two it may well end up being the reason we play the lions week one of the finals at the g not the gabba.

And speaking of the crows, seems bizarre given he played for them, that Jenkins didn't even mention our win over them. The following week they hammered port!

And the tigers had the second highest team rating for a losing team all season (thanks dd). Thst was also a very impressive win.

[Roost it far 8,277]

3 minutes ago, binman said:

Fair points.

But what do you think he might have said about the pies if they had come from 5 goals down with 7 mins to go?

Tbat was a seriously impressive win - stronger for longer and massive belief.

In fact we might look back at that win as a critical step in out journey to a flag - one because of the belief it instilled (do we hold of the crows the next week if we lose that match?) and two it may well end up being the reason we play the lions week one of the finals at the g not the gabba.

And speaking of the crows, seems bizarre given he played for them, that Jenkins didn't even mention our win over them. The following week they hammered port!

And the tigers had the second highest team rating for a losing team all season (thanks dd). Thst was also a very impressive win.

This Saturday night will be an even more impressive win.

go Dees

unleash hell

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,248]

Why does anyone care what Jenkins thinks?

[jnrmac 20,090]

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

After long being a traditionalist and a strong supporter of its retention as a unique feature of our game, I've changed my mind on the bounce.

I now realise that it's a very difficult feat to perform (a possible disincentive for potential new umpires) and I think there are too many dud bounces needing to be recalled which spoils the flow of play.

I doubt that, before too long, we'd even notice it was gone if the umpires simply threw the ball up (just like they do everywhere else on the ground).

Is there another game in the professional world where the referees are required to have a significant skill?

 

That includes boundary umpires...