17 minutes ago, Lewis said:

Hahahaha in what world is that going to get you pick 1? 

The "3 firsts" thing has really deluded a few people. 2 of them are/will be closer to picks in the 20's.

Such coveted treasure that we'll keep them AND take Reid lol

Edited July 26, 20231 yr by John Demonic

Not too keen on Reid at the moment. Seems to prefer handball instead of dropping straight onto left side, for left foot kicks,  from what i have seen, and  otherwise, because of his pace, at this level he has the time to get around to straighten up back on his favoured RHS.

Draft picks are overrated, but top 5 draft picks are the cream of the crop.

If you're drafting the best inside/outside mid in the talent pool, you're getting an elite mid.

This isn't Barry Prendergast anymore. JT doesn't miss with mids.

If Reid is possible without giving up players that we want to keep, and only costs us draft picks, and JT rates him as highly as I'd suggest he does, just do the deal.

Oliver, Petracca, Viney, Reid, Brayshaw, Sparrow, Rivers. Trac and Reid playing forward and then with mid bursts. A huge opportunity to take another step and improve our elite talent. 

4,15 and 23 would mean pretty much a straight swap, Jackson for Reid. I could live with that if JT decides its worth it.

2 hours ago, DemonWheels said:

The potential for Reid to Melbourne comes up in West Coast's write up:

Ideal draft prospects: If the Eagles hold Pick 1 and Harley Reid is genuinely happy to go anywhere in the country to start his AFL career, the Eagles have to take him. A versatile 185cm star Reid is considered a generational talent – one experienced recruiter told foxfooty.com.auearlier this year Reid was the best prospect they’d ever seen – and would be hard to pass up if there was a genuine chance you could get him. He’s drawn comparisons to Dustin Martin and plays with an infectious attitude, yet he can play across any line — and win games from any line — with his power at stoppages, overhead marking ability, penetrating kick and knack for hitting the scoreboard consistently. Regardless of Reid’s preference, the Eagles still face a significant call on whether to hold their first pick or trade it away to acquire multiple selections and help accelerate their rebuild. Multiple clubs suggested to foxfooty.com.au last week the Eagles would be prepared to slide down the order if they could ‘guarantee’ they could still draft Daniel Curtin – WA’s top prospect who West Coast has strong interest in, according to rival clubs. For example, a deal with Melbourne (who currently have Pick 4, via Fremantle, plus 15 and 23) could work. The fact there’s a decent WA-based crop in this year’s draft pool makes splitting Pick 1 a more enticing option for the Eagles.

Scully was the best they'd ever seen as well.

Martin went at pick 3...

Never believe the hype.

Drafting has improved year on year since Scully. Not only that so has development and coaching at the Dee’s. Put Scully and Trengove in a Melbourne jumper now and the outcome would be completely different. 

Our recruitment team are one of the best in the league. 

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Mistake

Alright i'll say it more simply.......Can this bloke kick well with his Left Foot??

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Drafting has improved year on year since Scully. Not only that so has development and coaching at the Dee’s. Put Scully and Trengove in a Melbourne jumper now and the outcome would be completely different. 

Maybe, but this is food for thought....

The number 1 pick is not always the best in the year and I would say none of these are generational talents.

Hodge for leadership maybe.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/30390521/ranking-every-no-1-afl-draft-pick-2000

This kid would be the cornerstone of our next flag assault after the Oliver, Viney, Petracca et al are going to be todays Dangerfields of that period. 
 

Not only could you build the next assault around this kid, you can plug him the best 23 next year and expect him to be a dominant player. 

Too good of a chance to pass this up - should we be able to engineer a trade. 

1 hour ago, rjay said:

Maybe, but this is food for thought....

The number 1 pick is not always the best in the year and I would say none of these are generational talents.

Hodge for leadership maybe.

https://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/30390521/ranking-every-no-1-afl-draft-pick-2000

It would appear that this year it’s very likely he is

1 hour ago, Roost it far said:

It would appear that this year it’s very likely he is

It always is...

13 hours ago, rjay said:

Scully was the best they'd ever seen as well.

Martin went at pick 3...

Never believe the hype.

I’m cautious too. Reid is physically much more developed than many he’s playing with and against, give it a few years and he might fall back to being a very good player rather than the generational talent being talked about 

At this stage I would rather keep the picks, HOWEVER,  many recruiters, who do this for a living, are saying this is the best kid that they have ever seen in the draft.

So, if they are saying this kid is better than Tracc, N. Daicos, Ashcroft, Horne- Francis etc, how do you not take him if you have the chance?

Interesting times to come after the season ends.

10 hours ago, McQueen said:

This kid would be the cornerstone of our next flag assault after the Oliver, Viney, Petracca et al are going to be todays Dangerfields of that period. 
 

Not only could you build the next assault around this kid, you can plug him the best 23 next year and expect him to be a dominant player. 

Too good of a chance to pass this up - should we be able to engineer a trade. 

The other thing is the top end kids have been recognised from a long way out from their draft year, so they have been in elite programs for many years (rep/state/national teams/vfl)

He’s been influential at VFL level already so he can cope with the bigger bodies and speed without a problem.

Theres probably 4-5 blokes in the 23 he could replace tomorrow so on immediate impact it’s worth it alone, without even talking 3,4 and 5 years down the track.

Do a deal, make us rise to our feet.

Wonder if West Coast are also interested in Mitch Edwards the best of the rucks. Rated between 10 and 15. Has ties with Freo academy but as we know they have no early draft picks!

WC need a quality ruck with Nic Nat done. You wouldn't think English wants to leave the Dogs to spend at least three years at the bottom of the ladder.

Trade with us and they can get Curtin and Edwards! 

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39 minutes ago, Redleg said:

many recruiters, who do this for a living, are saying this is the best kid that they have ever seen in the draft.

 

...be interesting to know who.

There is always a lot of media hype around potential number 1 picks, I wonder if real recruiters (the bosses) are this hyped.

Hands down, we need to get this guy if there is a skerrick of a chance. 

28 minutes ago, rjay said:

...be interesting to know who.

There is always a lot of media hype around potential number 1 picks, I wonder if real recruiters (the bosses) are this hyped.

If JT doesn’t share those unnamed recruiters’ view, I would think that it’s not even a possibility of happening.

We will have a good draft haul of picks and it will take a lot to influence JT to try and turn it into one particular player.

Agree with @rjay and @Redleg’s caution. Every second year someone is described as a generational talent. Are we talking about rabbits?

However, if those like JT actually believe this, then I’m all for going all in.

Winning the premiership AND getting the #1 draft pick would be a sublime conclusion to 2023. 
#powermove

The fact that we have a good few picks in a good draft shouldnt let us dismiss the absolute good fortune of being in the position to get Harley. Hardly any other club could tempt WC and they are all in tatters. I think we must must back JT but hell i hope we go for it!

15 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Drafting has improved year on year since Scully. Not only that so has development and coaching at the Dee’s. Put Scully and Trengove in a Melbourne jumper now and the outcome would be completely different. 

You'd have James Bartel and 'a zippier Simon Black', as per the original product labels! I think Scully was limited a bit in ways nobody picked up pre-drafting, but Trengove was the real tragedy of both development failure and career-crippling injury.

But this thread keeps making me anxious because I simply cannot see the basis for burning multiple good draft picks just to turn pick ~4 into pick 1.

I'm just going to repeat over and over - I'd much rather a second bite at the cherry, such as pushing our pick 15 a bit higher by packaging it with later picks or pick swaps.

2 hours ago, KLV said:

I’m cautious too. Reid is physically much more developed than many he’s playing with and against, give it a few years and he might fall back to being a very good player rather than the generational talent being talked about 

What about Petracca in his draft year? Were you thinking the same thing about him?

 

Why does everyone believe we will have pick 15? It's going to be pick 18.

Have faith, people!!