PREGAME: Rd 15 vs Geelong

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

Have we heard why still no Oliver? Is it just fitness based or is it something else? The lack of news is really frustrating

[ucanchoose 1,816]

I'm a huge Spargo apologist,  but he needed to go for Jordon

[leave it to deever 17,511]

3 minutes ago, titan_uranus said:

I was late to this news but I am strongly opposed to dropping Tomlinson for Petty. It just feels wrong. Tomlinson’s game against Collingwood was too good to warrant Petty being an automatic inclusion. The harsh result should have, as unfortunate as it may be, been imposed on Petty, not Tomlinson. 

Jordon for Spargo the correct call in Oliver’s ongoing absence. 

Tx TU, Was in top five last round for us imho.

[Jaded No More 68,967]

JJ getting a full game… who had that on their team selection bingo card?

[loges 6,767]

Tomlinson out has all the hallmarks of being either a masterstroke or a disaster.

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2 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Have we heard why still no Oliver? Is it just fitness based or is it something else? The lack of news is really frustrating

Clearly a rare diamond deserves to be treated with silk gloves 

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,508]

2 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Have we heard why still no Oliver? Is it just fitness based or is it something else? The lack of news is really frustrating

Goody suggested in his presser that it was a conditioning (fitness) issues following his infection and hospital stay.

 

[Satan 2,872]

Will danger be a late in ? Always a late cats change , he says he is good to go 

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Just now, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Goody suggested in his presser that it was a conditioning (fitness) issues following his infection and hospital stay.

 

I dunno about you, but I always play professional contact sport a week after a 5 day hospital stay on a drip. 


 

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Just now, Satan said:

Will danger be a late in ? Always a late cats change , he says he is good to go 

Hopefully. I can give his ribs 2 minutes tops playing on Viney 😂

 

In all honesty, what medical professional would clear someone to play AFL a week after cracking a rib and deflating a lung? A witch doctor maybe. 

[Demonstone 22,669]

Brown as an emergency is a surprise.

It's been reported that he's making his comeback in the VFL this week after missing a couple of weeks and having his knee drained.

[Nicko 1,382]

Gee Tomlinson is stiff….can’t see him being the sub over Spargo either 

[Sideshow Bob 2,386]

Don't like dropping Tomlinson at all

Absolutely the wrong message. Play well get dropped cos we have favourites. [censored].

Play well and we play well = making the most of your opportunities and staying in.

Guessing he'll find a home elsewhere and play week in week out as he should

[binman 43,185]

3 hours ago, FlashInThePan said:

I can't find a link to it. It was on either first crack or AFL 360. He was making the point that TMac's injury coincided with demons drop in form.

Which is true, in of itself.

It wasn't the cause of our drop off but it was definitely one of several key factors.

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,083]

Would think with Oliver its just match fitness related

[DemonWorshipper 304]

14 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Have we heard why still no Oliver? Is it just fitness based or is it something else? The lack of news is really frustrating

From the website: https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1362539/round-15-team-two-inclusions-for-cats-clash

Clayton Oliver, who has spent time on the sidelines in recent weeks, will not make a return for the Thursday match, with Richardson providing an update on the midfielder.  

“Unfortunately, Clayton will miss tomorrow’s night match as he continues to rehab his hamstring,” Richardson said.  

“Clayton was close to being available for selection, but we have decided to instead take a conservative approach. It’s very likely he will be fit and ready to go for our match next week.” 

 

So based on Richo's comments, likely the time off legs has meant missed rehab time for the hammy.

 

 

[Garbo 1,539]

3 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Would think with Oliver its just match fitness related

Or more serious than they let on

[CHF 2,748]

Interesting selection and it looks like the coaching team are going to be working to a bit of a different Plan A with a different Plan B as well.

Bringing Petty back for this game will keep the Cats guessing exactly how we might use him. It is going to be a wet one from all BOM reports so I do not mind a smaller back 6 with Tomlinson being dropped. It is not ideal after his great performance last week but it looks to be a horses for courses selection and I would expect him to come in to balance the defence when required. He may even be a late in if there are any key positions players that do not come up. 

Brown named as an Emergency a well as Spargo and Woewodin. looks like Spargo will get the nod as Sub.

Strong looking team with an interesting mix shown on the bench. I know that it is unlikely that the 18 named in the team will be the starting lineup... Petracca, Viney and Hunter at the first bounce???? ..... JVR and Petty on the bench can rotate into the forwards as required and Hibberd and Petty can rotate into defence as required. Jordon covers wing and inside mids.

Plenty of flexibility and I can see us playing a similar way to the way we played the Pies. Strong, driving drfence and smothering corridor defence giving the Cats no space inwhich to work. this will force them to kick long into their forward 50 on a wet night so that we can run it out of defence with our agile running backs.

 

Go Dees! a 20 point win coming up

[Nicko 1,382]

6 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Or more serious than they let on

Exactly what I was thinking after just reading Richo’s comments….was there a skanky blister problem after all?!? 

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,865]

A bit too cute at selections IMO.

Tomlinson flat out did not deserve to be dropped on any measure. Integrity of selection queries right there. If anything he should’ve been dropped when McKay beat him the week before.

Will be even more curious if Petty goes forward and we’re back to our previous issue of 1 key defender short which doesn’t allows May and Lever to flourish.

[Go the Biff 3,435]

5 minutes ago, Garbo said:

Or more serious than they let on

There was some training vision early in the week and Clarrie was feeling the back of his hammy. Suspect it's still NQR. Missing rehabilitation while in hospital would not have helped 

[At the break of Gawn 4,460]

8 minutes ago, DemonWorshipper said:

From the website: https://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/1362539/round-15-team-two-inclusions-for-cats-clash

Clayton Oliver, who has spent time on the sidelines in recent weeks, will not make a return for the Thursday match, with Richardson providing an update on the midfielder.  

“Unfortunately, Clayton will miss tomorrow’s night match as he continues to rehab his hamstring,” Richardson said.  

“Clayton was close to being available for selection, but we have decided to instead take a conservative approach. It’s very likely he will be fit and ready to go for our match next week.” 

 

So based on Richo's comments, likely the time off legs has meant missed rehab time for the hammy.

 

 

Probably fair enough given we have another 10 day break after this. It’ll absolutely ensure he’s right to go.

Probably harms his AA chances though missing 4 games.

[Fanatique Demon 2,650]

I’m feeling really sorry for Tomlinson after his last couple of games. I’d have thought a run at Casey would be the sensible way back for Petty 

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1 minute ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Probably fair enough given we have another 10 day break after this. It’ll absolutely ensure he’s right to go.

Probably harms his AA chances though missing 4 games.

Who cares about his AA chances if getting him right increase his chances of getting another premiership medal tho right?

[Go the Biff 3,435]

17 minutes ago, Sideshow Bob said:

Don't like dropping Tomlinson at all

Absolutely the wrong message. Play well get dropped cos we have favourites. [censored].

Play well and we play well = making the most of your opportunities and staying in.

Guessing he'll find a home elsewhere and play week in week out as he should

Not favourites.  Match ups and conditions.

Embrace the squad mentality Bob.