Targets 2023

[Turner 1,506]

As the season progresses, i always find myself scouring the competition for opportunities we could pounce on or we might be realistically thinking about.

Obviously our needs sit in the key positions stocks primarily and whilst we'd love a Larkey/Allen/Lewis/BKing to walk our way and lead us to number 14 or a BMcKay/Himmelberg to sign as a FA to sure up the defence. Likely we will look for some sneaky bargains and some astute pieces of business.

I want to use this thread to spitball players who could play a part for us but might not be the big name signing that headlines the window.

The dogs, as has been well documented are well stocked in the KPP department. I did a little list break down with the players in orange out of contract at the end of the season.

Key Defenders: LJones, Darcy, Keath, Gardner, Bruce, O’Brien, Busslinger, O’Donnell (B)

Key Forwards: Lobb, Naughton, Ugle-Hagan

for me given the likelyhood Tomlinson has a look around again, and honestly even if he doesn't we should be having a discussion on whichever of Keath, Bruce and TOB the dogs move along. The ideal one is Bruce, being the youngest of the three and having the most upside given the recency of his peak performances as well as his ability to be the best swingman/forward of the three however i wouldn't begrudge us moving for Keath either as a semi reliable squad player to call upon the way we do with Tomlinson now.

the second player who has caught my eye in the last fortnight has been Tim Membrey. Whilst he is best suited to the 2nd or 3rd tall position i think he has the mobility and ability to provide us with a nice lead up and high marking target with a really safe pair of hands and a strong work rate. Since recovering from injury he has been unable to force his way past King and Camaniti into the Saints best side and could be a stop gap option at only 29 years of age to take the pressure off JVR for a couple of years as we can no longer reliably call upon either TMac or BBB. 

[whatwhat say what 22,614]

you draft for the future; you recruit for the now

anyone you bring in from another club should be part of yr best 23

i'm not sure any of the above - with the exception of naughton and ugle-hagan - would be part of our best 23...gardner, maybe, or antivax jones to allow petty to go forward while darcy would obviously be a fantastic 'future' addition

but, of those five, there's no way that footscray would trade any of them

 

[Lucifers Hero 39,450]

Not related to mfc target.  Geelong is doing it again:  cats-pitch-to-targets-tom-de-koning-darcy-parish

"The Herald Sun reports the Cats will continue to make their ‘sell the dream’ pitch of the Geelong lifestyle to prospective free agents and trade targets like Tom De Koning and Darcy Parish and hone in on former Geelong Falcons in a bid to land marquee talent.

It’s included Geelong securing targets on cheaper deals by selling the culture and on and off-field advantages."

Those off-field advantages can't all be 'lifestyle' and they are smart enough to not have any money trail for them.  The AFL should benchmark their player packages against equivalent AFL players and ask Geelong to explain the differences.  And interview the players as to why they accept unders.  There must now be at least a dozen Cat's on the 'lifestyle' gravy train.

But we know the AFL will do nothing.

Edited June 7, 2023 by Lucifers Hero

[JV7 2,350]

11 hours ago, Turner said:

As the season progresses, i always find myself scouring the competition for opportunities we could pounce on or we might be realistically thinking about.

Obviously our needs sit in the key positions stocks primarily and whilst we'd love a Larkey/Allen/Lewis/BKing to walk our way and lead us to number 14 or a BMcKay/Himmelberg to sign as a FA to sure up the defence. Likely we will look for some sneaky bargains and some astute pieces of business.

I want to use this thread to spitball players who could play a part for us but might not be the big name signing that headlines the window.

The dogs, as has been well documented are well stocked in the KPP department. I did a little list break down with the players in orange out of contract at the end of the season.

Key Defenders: LJones, Darcy, Keath, Gardner, Bruce, O’Brien, Busslinger, O’Donnell (B)

Key Forwards: Lobb, Naughton, Ugle-Hagan

for me given the likelyhood Tomlinson has a look around again, and honestly even if he doesn't we should be having a discussion on whichever of Keath, Bruce and TOB the dogs move along. The ideal one is Bruce, being the youngest of the three and having the most upside given the recency of his peak performances as well as his ability to be the best swingman/forward of the three however i wouldn't begrudge us moving for Keath either as a semi reliable squad player to call upon the way we do with Tomlinson now.

the second player who has caught my eye in the last fortnight has been Tim Membrey. Whilst he is best suited to the 2nd or 3rd tall position i think he has the mobility and ability to provide us with a nice lead up and high marking target with a really safe pair of hands and a strong work rate. Since recovering from injury he has been unable to force his way past King and Camaniti into the Saints best side and could be a stop gap option at only 29 years of age to take the pressure off JVR for a couple of years as we can no longer reliably call upon either TMac or BBB. 

Keath & Bruce you cannot be serious ? 

Keath has never been any good & is completely washed up & as for Bruce he is even further washed up, has the turning circle of the titanic. No thanks.

[Redleg 40,791]

5 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Not related to mfc target.  Geelong is doing it again:  cats-pitch-to-targets-tom-de-koning-darcy-parish

"The Herald Sun reports the Cats will continue to make their ‘sell the dream’ pitch of the Geelong lifestyle to prospective free agents and trade targets like Tom De Koning and Darcy Parish and hone in on former Geelong Falcons in a bid to land marquee talent.

It’s included Geelong securing targets on cheaper deals by selling the culture and on and off-field advantages."

Those off-field advantages can't all be 'lifestyle' and they are smart enough to not have any money trail for them.  The AFL should benchmark their player packages against equivalent AFL players and ask Geelong to explain the differences.  And interview the players as to why they accept unders.  There must now be at least a dozen Cat's on the 'lifestyle' gravy train.

But we know the AFL will do nothing.

How many farms on the Bellarine have current, or ex Cats players, as owners?

[ChaserJ 4,989]

Would love us to have a go at luring Elijah Hollands in from Gold Coast. When up and running is a dynamic mid/fwd who could be part of our next wave in midfield behind Petracca & Oliver. 

OOC this year and Humphrey looks to have taken his spot in the starting line up.

Edited June 8, 2023 by ChaserJ

[adonski 11,728]

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

Would love us to have a go at luring Elijah Hollands in from Gold Coast. When up and running is a dynamic mid/fwd who could be part of our next wave in midfield behind Petracca & Oliver. 

OOC this year and Humphrey looks to have taken his spot in the starting line up.

Good call, I was thinking about him the other day wondering where he's at

Goldcoast have a history of trading away players who come good at their second clubs too...

Footywire has him OOC @ the end of 2024 though

Edited June 8, 2023 by adonski

[ChaserJ 4,989]

Thanks @adonski, I could be wrong on the contract status, probably still gettable while he's out of the side.

[spirit of norm smith 16,233]

I’d like to see Dees hold draft picks in bring in 2-3 quality youngsters.  If we were looking at adding players likely we’d look at skilled runners. Ollie Florent  (Swans) is one player to keep on eye on and see if a 4/5 year contract might tempt him. Skilled. Fast. He’d walk into our best 22. 

[ElDiablo14 4,991]

15 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Not related to mfc target.  Geelong is doing it again:  cats-pitch-to-targets-tom-de-koning-darcy-parish

"The Herald Sun reports the Cats will continue to make their ‘sell the dream’ pitch of the Geelong lifestyle to prospective free agents and trade targets like Tom De Koning and Darcy Parish and hone in on former Geelong Falcons in a bid to land marquee talent.

It’s included Geelong securing targets on cheaper deals by selling the culture and on and off-field advantages."

Those off-field advantages can't all be 'lifestyle' and they are smart enough to not have any money trail for them.  The AFL should benchmark their player packages against equivalent AFL players and ask Geelong to explain the differences.  And interview the players as to why they accept unders.  There must now be at least a dozen Cat's on the 'lifestyle' gravy train.

But we know the AFL will do nothing.

Between this and the Sydney Academy system ... 🤢🤢🤢

But of course Melbourne lost Mac Andrew for BS change of rules.

[Nascent 9,067]

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I’d like to see Dees hold draft picks in bring in 2-3 quality youngsters.  If we were looking at adding players likely we’d look at skilled runners. Ollie Florent  (Swans) is one player to keep on eye on and see if a 4/5 year contract might tempt him. Skilled. Fast. He’d walk into our best 22. 

I like him, ooc in 2024 and would be a good replacement for Hunter on a wing. Is fairly strong in the contest to my eye as well so not just an outside runner. 

[Nascent 9,067]

4 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Would love us to have a go at luring Elijah Hollands in from Gold Coast. When up and running is a dynamic mid/fwd who could be part of our next wave in midfield behind Petracca & Oliver. 

OOC this year and Humphrey looks to have taken his spot in the starting line up.

Had the same thought a few weeks ago. Another potential player to look at is Flanders who I liked in his draft year. Is racking up possessions in the VFL as a mid but admittedly I haven't watched many of their games. Looked to be a powerful hybrid mid/forward as well.

Another player that can't get a look in is Sharp, who wanted a trade to WA last year. Hasn't played a game this year I don't think. Looks to be a fairly uncontested player though so don't think he'll be on our radar.

Edited June 8, 2023 by Nascent

[Turner 1,506]

5 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

Would love us to have a go at luring Elijah Hollands in from Gold Coast. When up and running is a dynamic mid/fwd who could be part of our next wave in midfield behind Petracca & Oliver. 

OOC this year and Humphrey looks to have taken his spot in the starting line up.

Dev robertson is making his first starting appearance too this week, he is a WA boy but the word is he'd rather a move to victoria and has many clubs interested. hard to see how he fits with us atm similar to brissie but should harmes/dunstan/jordon move on he'd be a good get at 21yo 

[Nascent 9,067]

5 minutes ago, Turner said:

Dev robertson is making his first starting appearance too this week, he is a WA boy but the word is he'd rather a move to victoria and has many clubs interested. hard to see how he fits with us atm similar to brissie but should harmes/dunstan/jordon move on he'd be a good get at 21yo 

Possibly friends with riv?

[rjay 24,842]

I will throw in a 29/30 year old.

Brisbane have benefitted over the last few years from the Hawthorn rebuild with Gunston, Birchall & Hodge...

Geelong benefited with Smith.

WC maybe looking at restructuring their list & I would think Elliot Yeo would be a good get for a few years. Shouldn't cost a lot but would add a lot to a contender.

[Demonland 71,210]

On 6/8/2023 at 7:54 AM, Lucifers Hero said:

Not related to mfc target.  Geelong is doing it again:  cats-pitch-to-targets-tom-de-koning-darcy-parish

"The Herald Sun reports the Cats will continue to make their ‘sell the dream’ pitch of the Geelong lifestyle to prospective free agents and trade targets like Tom De Koning and Darcy Parish and hone in on former Geelong Falcons in a bid to land marquee talent.

It’s included Geelong securing targets on cheaper deals by selling the culture and on and off-field advantages."

Those off-field advantages can't all be 'lifestyle' and they are smart enough to not have any money trail for them.  The AFL should benchmark their player packages against equivalent AFL players and ask Geelong to explain the differences.  And interview the players as to why they accept unders.  There must now be at least a dozen Cat's on the 'lifestyle' gravy train.

But we know the AFL will do nothing.

[Diamond_Jim 12,511]

Age reporting that Pies are interested in Himmelberg at around $900k per year

[dee-tox 4,835]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Age reporting that Pies are interested in Himmelberg at around $900k per year

Interesting. They'll blow their salary cap again! McStay mustn't have made much of an impact...

[Demon Disciple 12,049]

13 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Interesting. They'll blow their salary cap again! McStay mustn't have made much of an impact...

McStay might McGo to the backline. I’ll see myself out 👋👋👋

[Jaded No More 68,855]

On 6/8/2023 at 7:54 AM, Lucifers Hero said:

Not related to mfc target.  Geelong is doing it again:  cats-pitch-to-targets-tom-de-koning-darcy-parish

"The Herald Sun reports the Cats will continue to make their ‘sell the dream’ pitch of the Geelong lifestyle to prospective free agents and trade targets like Tom De Koning and Darcy Parish and hone in on former Geelong Falcons in a bid to land marquee talent.

It’s included Geelong securing targets on cheaper deals by selling the culture and on and off-field advantages."

Those off-field advantages can't all be 'lifestyle' and they are smart enough to not have any money trail for them.  The AFL should benchmark their player packages against equivalent AFL players and ask Geelong to explain the differences.  And interview the players as to why they accept unders.  There must now be at least a dozen Cat's on the 'lifestyle' gravy train.

But we know the AFL will do nothing.

Hawkins is on like $250,000 a season… but somehow has a multi acre farm…. 

Edited June 9, 2023 by Jaded No More

[Jaded No More 68,855]

3 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Age reporting that Pies are interested in Himmelberg at around $900k per year

FMD $900,000 a year???? For Himmelberg? 
 

[Redleg 40,791]

1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

FMD $900,000 a year???? For Himmelberg? 
 

That’s hilarious.

[Roost it far 8,149]

What about Ben McKay?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

55 minutes ago, Redleg said:

That’s hilarious.

That's [censored] stupid.

[Redleg 40,791]

14 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

That's [censored] stupid.

You are so more eloquent than me.