Gutless performance.  Going by our mediocre club standards I guarantee management are itching to re-sign Goodie for another 3 years and drive a nail into the coffin.  No wonder why people aren't turning up.

Outside of a freakish run in 2021 with no injuries there has been nothing to commend strategically from this coach.  He's a fish out of water and gets outcoached consistently by far worse teams.

Players have zero passion,the skills are still woeful and the gameplan is rubbish and one-dimensional.  Our forward line has somehow got EVEN WORSE.  There's nothing to bring in from Casey that will change this.  

Fuming.

 

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:08, Beetle said:

If someone can please explain to me what Viney’s role was in the first half that’d be great.

if he was ‘supposedly’ tagging Brayshaw with 2 stats v Brayshaws 16 then that is a monumental coaching fail.

Oliver out and you send our number 2 contended ball winner to a tag when Harmes is in the team? Jesus Christ.

Do you think even He could help us??

If Kossie, Roo, Fritta and Spargo nailed their very gettable set shots, all this other wrist slitting would just be noise! 

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:21, monoccular said:

Do you think even He could help us??

Is there some form of biblical cross zone strategy he can introduce?

At least the bloke was able to rise in the face of adversity. 

Nathan Buckley was in the Dockers' coaches box during the game. If he is a silent observer then fine, but if he is providing counsel in any way to Longmuir then what nonsense. He's not paid under Freo's soft cap and it's not fair on us to have him providing his expertise to the team. It's akin to having two senior coaches for the day.

As an aside, we're 1-3 as Narrm. Can we drop the name or find a different indigenous name for 2024? Feels like some kind of a curse.

  On 27/05/2023 at 10:57, Orion said:

Whoo!  So much anger.  Makes you wonder what the point is of following a team if it makes you feel like that

It's called passion and not accepting mediocrity.  Not here for participation ribbons.

So I've been told to be more positive and we'll give this a crack:

- Trac played a reasonable game. Battled hard all day, in fact he looked like our only proper midfielder

- May actually played a decent game I thought. Saved at least 2 certain goals.

- Salo needs more games but he put on some ripper tackles. 

- Not Rivers best game bit still had good moments. Our most improved player so far this year.

We're a good team and it may not seem like it right now but I just know we can beat Carlton if we put our minds to it! Stay positive and anything is possible.

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:24, waynewussell said:

If Kossie, Roo, Fritta and Spargo nailed their very gettable set shots, all this other wrist slitting would just be noise! 

Mmmm, not sure about that.

It wasn't just wayward kicking that's bringing this season undone

  On 27/05/2023 at 11:31, titan_uranus said:

If true, why is this? Why do our opponents regularly bring their best pressure against us? 

Arguing that “they know pressure is our weakness” is silly because pressure is every side’s weakness. Sides would bring elite pressure all 23 weeks if they could. But for most, they can’t. 

But why us? Do we invite it somehow? Does the stat go up because we fumble and they get another point for a repeat tackle or something? Is it up because ours is down? (I don’t think it’s this because our pressure was high last week v Port). Do they just view us as a massive threat and gee themselves up for us - the whole “hunter vs hunted” mentality? Is it just plain bad luck?

This is definetly a thing in my eyes - all teams really set themselves to play us. 
We on the other hand, dont often find ways to win easily - need some dominent fwds for that. 

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:29, Buzzy said:

It's called passion and not accepting mediocrity.  Not here for participation ribbons.

You can be passionat without anger 

Edited May 27, 20231 yr by Orion

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:24, waynewussell said:

If Kossie, Roo, Fritta and Spargo nailed their very gettable set shots, all this other wrist slitting would just be noise! 

And Gus

  On 27/05/2023 at 08:47, BW511 said:

My takeaways from today and the last few weeks;

We are not a united club this year. There’s a selfishness that’s crept back in and everyone is playing to protect their spot. Problem is no one is actually pulling it off.

Whilst we won a flag in 2021 on the back of defence, it’s a very, very taxing style of play. Everyone bemoans our lack of front and centre and the struggles of our small forwards but they are being asked to do too much. It’s simply not sustainable for multiple games and seasons. You need 100% commitment to make this work and teams can only do it for so long.

Maybe the generational talent we supposedly hold is not as great as we think. Gawn, Trac and Clarry are all very good but there are flaws in their games that hurt us.

If other teams are bringing huge effort to beat us, it’s a nice feather in the cap but we eventually have to counter it.

Last one to end the rant, our game plan is so bloody ordinary to watch. I can’t imagine how frustrating it is for the players. We have sucked the enjoyment out of the game in the name of percentages.

I really hope the optimists among Demonland are onto something because I am not convinced we have the list to be a threat this year.

 

 

 

 

A threat to what? I doubt we make it past the semis again, Collingwood, Brisbane and Port are all playing far better and I still think the Cats will come home with a wet sail like usual once they get some more players back.

I'm really dreading the next two weeks now, lucky I can't go Friday but king's birthday is going to be painful.

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:24, waynewussell said:

If Kossie, Roo, Fritta and Spargo nailed their very gettable set shots, all this other wrist slitting would just be noise! 

But if the first one of those kicks is a goal then the ball goes back to the centre and the future takes on a different path from that point onwards 

Edited May 27, 20231 yr by Orion

  On 27/05/2023 at 08:51, Earl Hood said:

Which wing? If you were on the Southern wing, you would have seen a lot of footy close up. If you were on the members wing with me you spent most of the day looking at the f**king big screen to work out what was happening. 

Serious? We were on the southern wing as always and bemoaned the fact they constantly play the members wing so we can't see anything.

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:34, Orion said:

You can be passionat without anger 

We need controlled aggression 

  On 27/05/2023 at 07:00, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Only positives I can find is that with Oliver and Petty in we win that, not convincingly but its 4 points

They lost Darcy for 2 and a half quarters, meaning they also lost Jackson from the forward line. On top of that their leading goalkicker going into this game in Walters was also out. It's not a positive that bringing in our two injured players would get us over the line vs another team missing two key players. 

Edited May 27, 20231 yr by mmwd6

  On 27/05/2023 at 09:41, A F said:

I'm sure they're saying the same things down at Geelong. Burn the place, wasted the list, Scott fluked the premiership.

We were pathetic today, but there isn't a veil of negativity on here. There's mental fragility. 

Let's burn the place down of we don't make the top 4. A long way to go yet.

I've generally been pretty positive even back to 2020 when we underachieved but something is off and hasn't seemed right for a while. It's not the losses it's the way we're playing that is the issue. The games moved on and we haven't, Collingwood will run rings around us in 2 weeks. We're just not playing at the level required anymore.

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:31, layzie said:

So I've been told to be more positive and we'll give this a crack:

- Trac played a reasonable game. Battled hard all day, in fact he looked like our only proper midfielder

- May actually played a decent game I thought. Saved at least 2 certain goals.

- Salo needs more games but he put on some ripper tackles. 

- Not Rivers best game bit still had good moments. Our most improved player so far this year.

We're a good team and it may not seem like it right now but I just know we can beat Carlton if we put our minds to it! Stay positive and anything is possible.

May keeps getting dragged outside of F50 needs to stay at home. Missing that third tall in Petty chasing the lead up forward outside 50.

I don't watch enough VFL footy is Joel Smith worth a crack up forward if BBB is cooked?

 

 

Edited May 27, 20231 yr by YesitwasaWin4theAges

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:21, Buzzy said:

Gutless performance.  Going by our mediocre club standards I guarantee management are itching to re-sign Goodie for another 3 years and drive a nail into the coffin.  No wonder why people aren't turning up.

Outside of a freakish run in 2021 with no injuries there has been nothing to commend strategically from this coach.  He's a fish out of water and gets outcoached consistently by far worse teams.

Players have zero passion,the skills are still woeful and the gameplan is rubbish and one-dimensional.  Our forward line has somehow got EVEN WORSE.  There's nothing to bring in from Casey that will change this.  

Fuming.

 

Our game is not one dimensional, it's two dimensional, we are happy to run it along both boundary lines.

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:57, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

May keeps getting dragged outside of F50 needs to stay at home. Missing that third tall in Petty chasing the lead up forward outside 50.

I don't watch enough VFL footy is Joel Smith worth a crack up forward if BBB is cooked?

 

 

Honestly I would have liked Smith to get a go today.

Was at the game and watched Koz intently at times. He just doesn’t put himself in the right spots. Is often lurking in places where the ball has a 10-30% chance of popping out of the pack. He should be the star, but all we’re getting are cameo performances. 
 

Something is seriously up with Fritsch. 
 

Umpiring was dreadful. 
 

Lever needs to stop pulling pained, disappointed faces at his teammates after HE has screwed up. 
 

So we’ve given up on trying to win centre clearances? We’re playing this rebound/turnover jive instead? I would understand such a convoluted approach if we were any good at pulling it off, but it’s not working. We supposedly have the two best rucks in the competition but we’re using their centre bounce tap-work like cake ornaments. Where is the connection between our rucks and rovers? 
 

There is a lot more to be concerned about. I don’t want to go full-meltdown like so many others here are prone to, but that was a very poor performance and the scoreboard flattered us. 
 

Only positive was watching Hibbo, who is becoming one of our most consistent players this season. 

 

  On 27/05/2023 at 13:06, layzie said:

Honestly I would have liked Smith to get a go today.

Did nothing at Casey. We are in trouble if we rely on him to fix our forward line.

They was an issue in the last quarter, Freo went forward Number 24 for free flew well before the ball arrived took the Melbourne player out of the contest the ball spilled and they got the goal. The number of time I have seen this payed as unrealistic attempt against a Dees player : especially Kysaiah Pickett is frustrating. I don't mind them being payed just pay them all the time or not at all. I don't want to knock Umpiring I just want consistency. The game is getting really hard to watch at the moment.  

  On 27/05/2023 at 12:41, Orion said:

But if the first one of those kicks is a goal then the ball goes back to the centre and the future takes on a different path from that point onwards